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news! haters! studio 360 interview! (Patreon)

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2016-09-12 00:22:33
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hola comrades....

greetings from the hunker. thank you so much for your feedback on the nick cave article - it's been widely read and shared and i'm really glad i actually posted it on the guardian instead of sticking my tail between my legs and posting it here as a blog. some things. anyway...thank you. 

and also...the haters are back!! i've been so busy not writing or creating things in public that I FORGOT ABOUT THEM! bless. i discuss here...you don't need to be a member of facebook to see the discussion. an excerpt:

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what's so astonishing here is that by his logic, nick cave making a record in the wake of his son's death would be nick cave making it "all about him". which we know, of course, is totally absurd - and the main point of the article itself. "me" disappears in the service of "us". that's what art is. 


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RIGHT???

the whole thing:

http://bit.ly/2c8t4me

ah the internet.

and now....a couple EXCITING warnings....

ONE) jason and i are on the brink of dropping our new "JIB" EP, the sketches/demos we made for michael mcquilken's musical. they're REALLLLLLY GOOD. it almost feels weird not to be making a bigger deal out of releasing them. but that's our vibe lately, so fuck it. it looks like we're also going to do a SUPER LIMITED pressing of vinyl just because we can. so be ready.

TWO) i'm going to go into a REALLLL RECORDING studio in the end of month, for six days. i'll tell you what i'm doing....soon.

THREE) the solo tour is nearing sold out.

FOUR) this is a recently released redux of an interview i did a while ago for studio 360 in new york (public radio). it's REALLY GOOD and has live versions of "creep", "do you swear..." and a yummy, meaty interview with jurt anderson...who comes in at the end to give an AFP life update. it's very sweet:

http://www.pri.org/stories/2016-09-05/amanda-f-ing-palmer-puts-it-all-out-there-courage-and-humor


all for now.

xxx

AFP

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Comments

Sallita Morales

He got it the wrong way round. It should say 'enough about me now lets talk about Nick Cave.'

Nicola Mostyn

Love the article, and what's so wonderful is that as you learn from what Nick Cave did, we then learn also from how you interpret it. Which is what art is for, in my life, anyway. I think there will always be people who make a separation, and who don't want to apply these things to real life, or indeed hear how art then impacted someone real (outside of the artist). Back when i was an English student, It used to drive me mad in literature classes where people would speak so eloquently about a text, but they in no way seems to grasp that you could apply these genius insights into YOUR ACTUAL OWN LIFE because what else is great art for? I guess the people who get it will get it, and the rest can be found on the Guardian comments page, which should always be avoided if at all possible...

Courtney

Weird. Perhaps he was hung up on the expectation of a traditional review and wasn't reading it so much as a think piece? I'm not often that generous when it comes to explaining away the bad behavior of other people, not sure what's come over me. Seems to me like all one has to do is read the title to be able to anticipate what sort of article it is, but whatever. What I've been mulling over, and what is more interesting, I think, is how you seem to be saying that the best art comes from people who are willing to expose themselves completely, and I've been trying to decide whether I agree or not. This is assuming I am interpreting your intent correctly, and I'm often horrible at that. And also I somehow stumbled onto a bunch of articles about Robert Mapplethorpe yesterday so maybe I've gotten all of this mixed up in my head like an art interpretation soup.

Anonymous

Your article was great, and the twitter man got the wrong end of the stick completely. What did he expect - a totally impersonal review?! (And now I need to dig out my copy of The Best of Nick Cave...)

Ragamonster

Don't even give the haters a second of your brain space! We get you.

Vanella

silly haters ignore them we'll go about our business of loving AFP :)

Laura Wellner

When I first read that tweet, I had to walk away. On a much smaller scale, I've had my share of negativity cast on my creativity, and I don't like it being directed at anyone's creativity...fuck, wait, am I being narcissistic for reflecting on myself, dude I'm soooo sorry! ;) Whenever an artist makes a thing or writes a thing, or performs a thing its a piece of them that is personal, and some times, it's not easy to share that thing (especially when there's trolls out there who think they have their finger on the pulse of whatever it is they are self-appointed experts at, and they're not constructive, they're destructive.)There's always gotta be that one extra special dink-a-saurus who comes along and pisses on something beautiful...(okay hater, you have your opinion...bite me, mofo.) I don't think people like that really hear how they sound...pure acid. Haters will hate everybody and everything as it suits them, they're making up for something they're lacking, pity the fool. Sweetness! Love n' hugs, and happy thoughts always!

Christina M

Okay so, I just visited Twitter solely because of this (not often there) and I was horrified at the thread at issue. I simply cannot understand the abject ability of so many to intentionally distort and transmogrify an essay giving honor to another artist in such heartfelt clarity. I'm sometimes immobilized by the awareness that humans purposely try to eviscerate each other over something that isn't even about them, and without being asked. So tired of the purposefully ignorant who keep pushing out their hatred and wish they'd just shut the fuck up. Loved your response to the tweets tho! Xox. Chrissy M

Deniz Bevan

I don't have time for pointless negative comments. I wonder what he thinks art is *for* if not to be talked about and and feelings/reactions shared. If someone posted an article about walking in Tintern Abbey and thinking of Wordsworth and how the poem responded to something in their own lives, would that also be wrong? If a father who'd lost his son talked about Nick Cave, would that be okay, rather than a new mother talking about the songs? Who gets to decide who is qualified and permitted to share feelings about art and who isn't?

Katt

In the moment it can be hard to keep the spit-worth of bitterness added by damaging people out of the buckets of sweet love, admiration and support that you have. The trick is to boil it down, reduce it to an awareness of human frailty; transmute the toxic sting to sorrow that those people have nothing positive to add, the taint can't spread then. You know you are loved, up close and from the other side of the world and all points between. Beyond that, you are valuable in the way that artists who leave a legacy are valuable, in your music, your lyrics, your writing and your outpourings of love and attention. Amanda, you have gravitas and a body of work well worth respect and consideration, all this and you still have decades of creative life ahead of you. Make your art, your very GOOD ART and leave the judgement to the future where it belongs.

Lisa

I know it was over a week ago you wrote this, but I'm only just getting the chance to catch up again! First, forget the Haters! Secondly... 1. Can't wait to listen to the Jib songs!; 2. Yay again for new music; 3. So excited for tour! 4. Love that interview and hearing the songs again. Keep well. Xx

h0tline.actual

Commenting on this post is absurdly late but I couldn't sleep and I thought I'd catch up on a few things. Plus I've really wanted to read this article and mysteriously overlooked it somehow. This was one of the better pieces I've read in a long time. You've managed to relate it in a way to yourself so that those who know about you can relate to Mr. Cave's plight more empathetically and intimately. This troll who said you turned the article into one entirely about you is a real, "dickhead", who lacks reading comprehension skills and general understanding of emotions. Sorry for a lack of a better word to describe him but that's all that comes to mind at 3 something in the morning. I hope the negativity of the internet never stops you from being you and writing what you feel and want to express. Please always be true and honest to yourself in all of your endeavors. Never lose hope or be dissuaded. You've come to far. I think the melatonin is kicking in. Good night. You'll never see this. LoL. Jesus...