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Bootyman555

At some point you guys will have to go back and watch the fillers you missed but I don’t really know how that would work

Bootyman555

There was one back in the day that I liked about dragons but that was a long time ago and I don’t really remember it all too well

Bootyman555

Also! Carrot is on the crew now. Technically. Carrot right now is kind of filling a similar role to vivi or momo, so If you see them as straw hats you could consider carrot one too. At least that’s how I see it.

ImZeaT

The difference is that Oda actively views Vivi as a former/honorary Straw Hat, which is not the case for Carrot

Oshidi

Done watching! You can upload the next episode now. (jk tho, take your time, much love🤟)

Bootyman555

Carrot is a middle ground of momo and vivi is maybe a better way of putting it

Matthew Gilroy

We might need that Film Z reaction soon

Sanji Joestar

I don't think so Pedro too is in a similar boat and I wouldn't call him a Strawhat. They're accompanying us for sure but it's much more different than Vivi. With her, imo she really became a crew member at the beginning of Alabasta when they all got the X mark and Luffy announced it's a symbol of their fellowship.

Sanji Joestar

Oda had CP9 agents using all forms of Six powers while referring to it as a training of the body itself for reinforcing. 4 chapters after Lucci's defeat(427-431) he introduces both Garp and the fact that some punches can hurt Luffy with this mysterious power (aka Haki). Meanwhile Lucci could not hurt Luffy with bludgeoning blows unless he used claws or slashes. To me that's the biggest indicator they were meant to be different. But since we stay a while without knowing what is what (until Rayleigh's lesson in Post war), it seems like it was retroactively changed.

klairvoyage

- Observation Haki was first seen in Skypiea - Conqueror's Haki then actually named for the first time in Jaya - and in Long Ring Long Land the SHs were utterly defeated for the first time (by Aokiji) due to not having Armament Haki Water 7 & the Six Powers only came AFTER all that I think it just comes off as if the idea of the Six Powers were scrapped in favor of Haki – not just because the latter only got explicitly explained much later – but also because most of our battles have been against other pirates, who predominantly use Haki... Which imo also further plays into the whole dichotomy that: Pirates, who pursue freedom tend to manifest their power through will, while fodder-Marines, who largely follow orders handed down to them, derive their strength from a martial system that is likewise inherited/institutional rather than self-directed. It’s no coincidence that high-ranking Marines, who actively pursue their own form of freedom within the confines of the Marines through their own "flavor" of justice, rely on Haki rather than the Six Powers.

Sanji Joestar

Slight correction, Conquerors Haki itself wasn't mentioned in Jaya. Just the term 'Haki'. We don't really know what Blackbeard did sense. Like was it just the ''amount'' of Haki Luffy had or how much Conquerors he felt coming off of Luffy etc. The first It's shown while being mentioned as being a use of this 'Haki' was Shanks arriving on Whitebeard's ship. So it was mostly a secondary power being introduced in the background. While we went in quite some details (in comparison) over the Six Powers during Water7/Enies Lobby. As for the rest yeah i agree, six powers are mostly referred to as powers of government agents such as high ranking Navy or Cipher Pol. We've seen a few use them during Marineford for example and here again. Other people can still learn them too. Like Luffy with what i suppose is Life Return (used by Bonham in this episode) and maybe Zoro (with his Gorilla biceps techniques) or Sanji with Sky walk. Just a wide variety of abilities for who knows how to use them.

klairvoyage

🙂‍↕️ and with what you said at the end there, the Six Powers really do feel like a Marine-specific extraction from a broader pool of possibilities, one that was codified for institutional use, meanwhile other characters may end up organically accessing similar or even wholly other abilities from that same "power system" that allows to push the body beyond its normal limits, like the ones you named, and perhaps even things like Fishman Karate, Okama Kenpo, etc.

SomeoneElse

Lucci's Six King Gun or whatever it was called was able to hurt Luffy which looked a lot like a Haki power to me. Lucci might not have been using Haki for his punches because he wasn't taking Luffy seriously at the start AND because he had claws to use when he got serious. But yeah, I would say the most likely reason is just a writing thing. I do really like the Six Powers tho and how it's a good identifier of CP agents, although some marines do use it as well.

Sanji Joestar

His Six King gun is definitely effective, the main difference is what the attack actually is/does. It's basically a shockwave/impact. And in Skypiea or against Usopp, we saw those do actually hurt Luffy from the inside with the Impact Dials without needing Haki. Fishman Karate does something similar where he's hurt from the inside no matter if he's made of rubber or not. Six King Gun is according to Lucci a skill you can obtain once you've mastered all Six power abilities. -Shigan, but for the whole fist. -Flying attacks such as Rankyaku, or the Flying Finger Pistol. -And Iron Body for extra strength. Basically he's sending a giant Flying Finger Pistol with internal damages.

Cheddah Slammer

I would agree, however their is one problem, every bludgeoning attack Lucci uses doesn't work against Luffy except Rokuogan, Lucci's greatest technique does.

Sanji Joestar

It's an impact/shockwave which we know works against Luffy. Just explained it above

Oussama Essamadi

Carrot really is a great addition to this goofy bunch. Oda please give me my fix man.