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지원

yay thank you for reaction ! btw Will another episode be uploaded? The schedule says it goes up to episode 974 through October 3rd, so I was wondering if the schedule has changed.

지원

you are too fast bro

Sanji Joestar

Similarly to the Laugh Tale reveal, Oda never wrote the description of the One Piece using Kanji. Always used katakana/hiragana, basically the phonetic spelling of the word so it's like the character are always saying Raftel/Rough Tell/Laftel as if they're repeating the sound. (There's a similar example in AOT, with the word Monkey/'Saru'. If you know you know.) Characters always say '' Hito-tsunagi no daihihō"/The great ''Hito-tsunagi" treasure. With Hito-tsunagi being read 3 different ways - ''In One Piece" - "One sea at peace" - "The rope that links all men'' All 3 interpretations can lead to interesting possibilities for what's to come. The 3rd in particular is interesting since a concept word for Mantra back in Skypiea was 'Tazuna'/''Mind rope". And it's quite interesting that neither Roger or his crew came up with the name One Piece, or the titld of Pirate King. The Word at large did.

BOLDcast

Just one for tonight We’re already way ahead of what we normally promise. We planned on maybe doing a double. But honestly these eps are so packed We might give an extra tomorrow, but we’ll see when we get there

I LOVE JOJO

By the way, you’ve already missed quite a few One Piece openings—do you plan to watch them?

지원

thank you ~I thought it might be a good idea to stop at episode 974 and take a day off, so I just wanted to ask. I’m really looking forward to that episode.

x

maybe post arc if I had to guess

Artemis

This entire conflict would not even exist if Roger and his crew was there actually. They would probably quell the entire uprising.

Craving

Yea, Oden is, without a doubt, one of the most criticized characters in the one piece fandom and I feel people are very justified in that sentiment. It really comes down to your own subjective values if you feel he should have stayed longer than an hour on his previous return voyage and not neglect a clear cry for aid about to come out of kinemons mouth. Like you guys are saying with prime Rayleigh, imagine roger there as well, its hard not to imagine they could have cleaned the situation up within a day or two despite Oden saying that if he stepped on land he felt like he wouldn't return to the boat. I personally have to hand wave a bit for that to sit right with me. There are also a few other issues which I cant go into, but if you go on twitter or many other forums like reddit or TikTok, its pretty easy to find actual Oden hate groups (be it a problem with odas writing where he overglazed the character where everyone loves him despite all the questionable decisions and years of abandonment or it just being a natural character/Wano people flaw). Wano is the first arc where you will start to find a lot of hardcore one piece fans be very divided on the quality of writing going forward. The roger and whitebeard stuff is peak tho.

klairvoyage

Rope no Jutsu 🫪 Paulie upscale

Oussama Essamadi

I wonder if we’ll ever see post One Piece where Luffy disbands the crew and walks into the sunset.

myridiann

Oden could have just asked roger pirates or whitebeard for help... they both would have help him and win the war easily

BTImelesS

Reyleigh ended up in Sabaody, but Crocus ended up in Reverse Mountain, I think that's the one we know of that has made it the furthest back!

PeachBrune

I feel that its a plot hole/convenience that the roger pirates didn’t take any action in wano. We see them acting like family but they all just peace out as soon as roger is gone. I still enjoy oden being a part of the journey but then you have moments where it feels like oda doesnt have the characters do the sensible thing just to keep roger pirates out of the story to keep the plot moving or save them for later which is fine but doesnt feel great in this moment

Miguel Nobre

You and alot of the people that say the same thing are forgetting that Oden would never ask for Roger Pirates for help,if he decided to stay there the 1st time Kinemon was about the ask for help,Oden would tell the Roger Pirates to leave,he would not ask for help in any situation,that's not bad writing,that's how Oden is as a character,he is Prideful,Naive,this is like saying Ace death is badly writing because he didn't do the smart thing and kept running,we just ignore the character traits and nuance and just want them to always go for the smart decision

C

People who think characters not functioning like logic machines are bad writing are stupid and should be thrown out like ballast As someone who has been reading and watching one piece for a long time now every single recent arc has been criticized for bad writing only to fade into the background as the week to week memory fades into the background. Wano just happens to be the arc that happened when the popularity of online discussions skyrocketed during covid so it lasts in people's memories slightly longer. But like usual those people are stupid and always have been stupid

Desdinova

I think your jumping the gun to be talking about this. I wanna see them come to these conclusions on their own when they finish the flashback. They need the full picture.

Desdinova

Agreed, I was going to wait till they finished the flashback before bashing on Odens decisions but it was a plot hole that no one wanted to go to Wano after Roger disbanded, they had nothing going on and they are the King of Pirates crew who would want one last celebration. The best explanation is Oden never gave them any reason to think they were needed but it goes against the themes of the show (literally Vivi's character arc) that you can put your responablities on your friends because they care about you.

BOLDcast

To me, I agree, but at this point in the story, there’s not really a reason for us to bring that up in a discussion. It’s just how Oda has to deal with timeline shit. Naruto is no different At this point fighting that battle in a discussion is more of a headache than it’s worth. Maybe we could talk about this in a podcast but it’s just classic one piece atp and I don’t mind it as much as I used to

C

I mean, we literally see here that Oden doesn't know the situation at Wano so why would he tell the roger pirates anything? He was aware of some change in Wano because of the last time he was here but even then there is no indication that someone like Oden can't solve his own problems. Do you want every time someone is dropped off by the roger pirates they spend some time to check up on the geopolitical conflicts within the country they just arrived at just in case they have to take down a yonko level threat for their boy? I feel like that is way more uncharacteristic than them checking just in case someone like Kaido has taken over their friends home country. Look at it from their perspective. This is Kozuki Oden, if you don't know what is going on in Wano there is such a small chance that he couldn't solve his problems himself.

Daniel Assis

Guys, that's our point of view as readers, we know the full story, but the characters don't. Oden was selfish when he first left, but he didn't know what was going on at all when he first came back. And you have to remember that he was always the strongest in Wano back then, so he probably thought that whatever happened, he could solve it on his own. Besides, the Roger Pirates were running against time. Roger was dying, and they needed to get to the last island. Roger disbanded the crew after that, and they gave Oden a ride home. Oden only found out the details later. If Toki hadn't stopped Kin'emon from telling him everything and asked him to let Oden go, maybe he would have stayed. But then again, he was the only one who could read the Poneglyphs and this was also very important to Wano as we know now. Timing was bad, but that's simply how it was.

Craving

im devil advocate speaking. I dont care about oden. The fact is his introduction created many of the hostile anti-onepiece groups full of people who actively still read the manga. Their main complaint isnt that hes perfect, its that, besides a minor few instances by people in the flashback, he is treated like some hero when he objectively failed wano and its people. Your opinion on him can vary but not being able to objectively step back and look at something is stupid. Blatant defense or aggression is just toxic. That kind of stuff shouldnt be in the community.

Craving

You are not really seeing the point. Once again im not in those hate groups. Its like i replied to others, throughout the lead up to the flashback and from now, forever on, people praise oden like he never did any wrong. The only instances we see of more nuanced reactions is in the flashback. Despite the multiple instances, and years of abandonment and other stuff coming, he gets a little too overly praised by everyone of importance. Peoples frustrations would be quelled a lot if one person of importance like the scabbards just said "oden was a great man, but he failed the nation of Wano, he was a terrible leader for this country." The blind defense isnt much better than blind hatred. Its fine if one character and their flaws dont bother you but this is more of a "zoom out and look at the surrounding arc writing" issue people have. Once again, objectively, the character was the spawn point for many communities like piratefolk or branches on tiktok/twitter. Everyone agrees Aces downfall was his own fault and perfectly fit his character, im sure most can agree with Oden... THE PROBLEM is the writing around the character, not the character itself. In most other series theres a big point of contention like this but most people can agree its iffy or not good and move on. I personally believe a lot of these more mean spirited groups have grown to such a large extent over the past 6 years due to their issues being pushed down by the large majority. Its more nuanced than :oda did nothing wrong." Once again, i can freely speak since i dont think oden cracks my top 50 fav or top 30 least fav. I do see the issues tho

Cheddah Slammer

I would argue that I don't think people like the scabbards who's character are literally following Oden even though he doesn't want them too, would say something like "oden was a great man, but he failed the nation of Wano, he was a terrible leader for this country." because it would be against their characters, were no matter what he does they forgive him.