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Jean Baudrillard 101 (Patreon)

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2023-06-15 15:55:15
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This is pretty long, but I found this particular interview, "Forget Baudrillard", where he explains his purposes to someone familiar with his work, Sylvere Lotringer. As a result, it serves as a good 101-style intro to his later work! In the briefest possible terms, he wants to push theory to its limit, and I thought this would be a good share because he speaks in conversational language rather than his "theory voice". If you want to find this interview yourself it's in a book called Baudrillard Live which is tough to find https://amzn.to/3Pfs56B.

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Jean Baudrillard 101

I found this particular interview, "Forget Baudrillard", where Baudrillard explains his purposes to someone familiar with his work, Sylvere Lotringer. As a result, it serves as a good 101-style intro to his later work! In the briefest possible terms, he wants to push theory to its limit, and I thought this would be a good share because he speaks in conversational language rather than his "theory voice". If you want to find this interview yourself it's in a book called Baudrillard Live which is tough to find https://amzn.to/3Pfs56B.

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German Castillo

Man, I love this format. Thanks for all you do Pills.

Zachary Manenti

I studied w Sylvere…. he was great. Sorry to hear he’s gone. He was considered a cultural impressario… or smthg like that. Generous man.

Ashley H

R.I.P bug :(

Qoheleth

I can’t decide if everything is sexual or sex has disappeared. help! lol

Plastic Pills
>>110836367

That's exactly what the obscene is! Because sex is everywhere (ads, entertainment, politics) it has disappeared. As when a secret gets out, the secret has disappeared because it's everywhere

Zachary Manenti
>>110799852

He was at Columbia like u said. He wasn’t taken v seriously intellectually bc he was an ‘outsider’ in relation to the university institution… but he brought French theory to the English speakers whose French sucked. Semiotext(e) project was so great. My gf at the time and I hung out with him one weekend at his shabby shack house upstate NY. He was w his much younger than he but older than me gf Chris Krauss at the time… who is now ‘famous’ for her book, ‘I Love Dick.’ Sylvere is the cuck in that story. Why she wd choose that dummy Dick Hebdige over Sylvere is her personal mystery of Desire…I guess she finally got her one liner of success book out of it and a Netflix show ( I watched the pilot… don’t think it got made as a series). But Sylvere was the quintessence of the experimental in all ways and a gift to the english speaking theory world.

Zachary Manenti

special note to what B says about the vacuousness of ‘prophecy’… that it doesn’t bring change. So true… B winds up a prophet of the miserable future and the question/problem of social change remains. I can’t give it up, the possibility of change, but… well you know…

Qoheleth
>>110862429

also remember the quote from Baudrillard that could be a reply to that which ends in, “But then don’t you think a more exciting world opens up? Not a more reassuring world, but certainly more thrilling, world where the name of the game remains secret. A world ruled by reversibility and indetermination” The way I think of this quote in a vacuum are that we are no longer assured by the inevitability of something like communism, the name of the game remains a secret, and that things can reverse and things are not certain. This is a more exciting world.

ConstraintAutomaton

Very good video, I think the long format was worth it, it's a also a good motivation to read the book.

john 7

Thank you! I really appreciate your content and craft.

john 7

"Images, millions of images. That's what I eat. - WS Burroghs

Aelwyn Williams

This is great - that transatlantic link with Lotringer (but also people like Jean Jacques Lebel) led to some interesting encounters with the American postwar avant garde ( but also the popularizing of Baudrillard’s texts in cheap portable editions). Maybe worth mentioning Jason Demers’ book, The American Politics of French Theory: Derrida, Deleuze, Guattari and Foucault in Translation which gives some background to these criss-crossings.

Alex B

If we go godmode with the diversity of our genome it won't be long before we dustbowl it

anacidcommie

I took that flat encephalogram bit to mean that culture, like a flat EEG, is brain dead, mostly in the sense that it is not progressing consciously through history in the Hegelian way, but is an unconscious, contingent phenomenon. Also, re the difference between symbolic and pure exchange, can you say that unlike with capitalist exchange and value, the signs of symbolic exchange aren't irreducible to each other in the same way as commodities are under capitalism via their exchange value? And that this is why say, a suicide bombing cannot be coopted into the spectacle because it is purely symbolic and can't be turned into exchange value, or even sign value?

Khemith

Talking about the revenge of the object reminds me of Dungeons and Dragons Artifacts. You don't really possess them, they use you to move history. They eventually dominate and destroy you, even the "good" artifacts. An example would be the Machine of Lum the Mad.

Qoheleth
>>110836367

I know that, this was more of my being torn between influences that are more psycho-analysis (Freud and Lacan influences) vs baudrillardian. Though there may not really be a contradiction because they may be saying different things.

zolo

*forgetting* a teacher or an influence in a sense is something we must do in order to improve our own work in a sense if that makes any sense