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The finale is here...! What an ending. I'm curious to how everyone feels about it and their perspectives on the show in general. Please check the previous post in recommending me the next show for me to watch.

EP 21: https://youtu.be/jLy5HoxOZwY

EP 21 Uncut: https://vimeo.com/1208533235/29d4e7b137?fl=tl&fe=ec

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Alexander Sawasdee

"You probably don't even hear it when it happens, right?" - Bobby Baccalieri Imo Tony was shot from 3 o'clock by the guy in the gray Members Only jacket who went to the bathroom to retrieve his gun (Godfather reference). Also the sequence goes: bell chimes-> Tony looks up -> Tony's POV of who enters the shop. The last "cut to black" was not an ordinary one, it was Tony's POV of the nothingness of death.

arko

before I get inzo this, i gotta say this was the best yt reaction of the sopranos. as a philosophy student your analysis of media and art is so satisfying and low key inspiring. peace and love james.

Kana Kawase

David Chase has said that the clues to what happened at the end are all there in the series. I initially thought the ending was ambiguous, but the more I've sat with it over the years, the more certain I am that Tony was killed. Here's my reason... if you wanted it to be ambiguous, the most obvious thing to do from the film grammar perspective is a slow fade to black while the music continues to play. Rather, we get a hard cut of both the picture and the sound. A silent black screen. That's a deliberate choice and it must mean something. What's more, that silent black screen lasts a full 10 seconds. TV stations, including cable, don't broadcast dead air for no reason, as a rule. So, what does it mean, that hard cut and 10 seconds of blackness and silence? IMO, those 10 seconds are the final fleeting moments of Tony's consciousness. Chase didn't go the gratuitous route of having us witness Tony getting whacked while his family look on in horror. Instead, we experience his death with him. It is, in a way, a first-person perspective death scene. That, IMO, is freaking brilliant. There's another fan theory that I kind of like, though. It wasn't Tony that was killed. The gunman came out of the bathroom and shot, but he missed. The bullet went wide of Tony and instead hit... us. We, the audience, were killed by a stray bullet. You probably don't even hear it when it happens.

Night King01

There is a theory that patsi sold out Tony in the end and got him killed as revenge against his twin brother’s death.

Night King01

That picture of Christopher is hilarious. Paulie was about to bat that cat away with that broom before Tony walked in.

Night King01

Fun fact Frank Vincent kept the mold of his head that they used when they ran his head over.

Luke

"you probably don't even hear it when it happens, right?"

Luke

The diner scene is one of the most symbolic scenes in history. Absolutely brilliant. I recommend watching "scenic medias" analysis of it. It's crazy.

Night King01

That final scene with Junior is so sad. Tony went to try to reach out one more time but it was too late. Irony is the only memory Jr. has of Tony is a happy one and not a negative one like Tony always said.

GbySinge

Would have liked to see A.J in Afghanistan when he finds out they don't kill terrorists but just civilians Also that dinner scene btw Tony and her seeing Meadow's hypocrisy growing through the later seasons sure was frustating lol

William Davis

I personally love this finale, it resolves most of the storylines in a satisfying way and the final scene (in my opinion) strongly implies Tony getting whacked. What you said at the beginning about the title “Made in America” was very interesting to me, I agree that the pursuit of the so-called American Dream is a big theme in this show, and in particular how that pursuit can be warped. I like that you brought up the Italy episode from season 2, if you ever watch “BoJack Horseman” on this channel there’s a similar episode in season 5 where a character travels to the country they are descended from only to feel like a total outsider, just something that came to mind for me.

William Davis

There’s a theory that the cat looking at Christopher’s picture is Adriana reincarnated.

JR Slander

This upset a lot of people when it happened. People thought their cable went out. I always found it artistic. The sopranos never did fan service. Sometimes you don't get to know. I enjoyed watching the reactions.

Owen Young

So here’s my theory. Tony died. Or if he didn’t, he’s going to very soon. A.J. Ends up working in a mafia adjacent business with Lil Carmine. Meadow is going into law to essentially become a Mob lawyer because of her self justification of her family’s lives. Now.. for my main theory, it’s a bit of a wild card but this series allows for it. I think perhaps we witnessed a metaphysical collapse. The TV screen couldn’t even handle the hypocrisy of the Sopranos family and Tony’s evil any longer and it all just cuts off. I also, think Carmella knows Adriana is dead, and just accepts it like Big Puss, and countless other people she’s seen disappear through her marriage. I think in the scene where she’s confronting Chris about Cleaver, illustrates this perfectly. I don’t think Carm is innocent at all. But one of the best written characters ever. I think she’s the perfect archetype of the “Mafia wife.” Letting her morals slip and fade for the sake of money and comfort as she says to the priest in season 1. There’s an interesting theory out there that Carmella, Tony, and AJ get killed in the last scene. If you rewatch it and notice the symbolism of the lights, the Onion rings as communion, etc. it makes sense because of the fact that they had Phil killed in front of family. Many people think if Tony died it was most likely Paulie in on it. Interesting story isn’t it? Makes you want to rewatch and rewatch to figure it all out. In the words of David Chase on the ending: “It’s all there.” God bless and thank you James!

Carlos H

My favorite (unserious) theory is that Noah finally punched Tony's lights out. 🤣

Young Simba

Great job brother. I watched your reaction to the wire on YouTube in the cut up versions but knew I had to sub for sopranos. Might be time to watch the full wire reactions and other stuff as my next binge lol

Brandon

I don't believe for one minute that Tony died. He had made peace with New York, who were tired of Phil's leadership. So who would have done it? There's a lot of wild theories about the members only jacket. A lot of deep-dive video essays about "what it all means" but I just don't see it. In that final scene, I think Tony is thinking that the whole setup reminds him of his favorite scene from The Godfather. The one with Michael in the restaurant. He's caught up in how familiar it looks to him. AJ references that scene after trying to sneak a knife to kill Uncle Junior and getting caught. Tony tells AJ that he makes him want to cry because that scene is "just a movie". My theory is simply mental illness. Tony is showing signs of early-onset dementia. It's in his family history. His father, Uncle Junior, Tony himself as well as AJ all have or had issues with mental illness. With season 6 in particular, we see how detached Tony has become from the people around him, which is one of the main early signs of dementia. In earlier seasons he was still a bad person, but he was capable of showing empathy for others. No such empathy exists in Tony anymore. He seriously considered killing Paulie and he actually did kill Christopher. Afterwards, he admits to resenting everyone else's grief and having to pretend to grieve for Chris in their presence. The way he ended his lifelong friendship with Hesh over a debt is just cold blooded, especially with the way he showed no sympathy for Hesh's girlfriend having just died. He tried to convince Carmella to gamble her earnings from the real estate deal. On and on and on... He's become hopelessly detached and become more self-involved than ever. As Meadow rushes to meet her family, you can tell she's worried about being late because she cares about her family. When she walks through the door of the diner, Tony looks up and feels nothing. You can see it on his face and that's where the series leaves us. It's almost like the entire final season has been telling us that we shouldn't even care about what happens to this man. When he finally visits Uncle Junior, the man is too far gone to even get any closure with him. As he walks away in tears, I think Tony fears that he might end up in an institution just like that someday, with nobody left to care for him. When you consider how he has treated everybody, could you blame them? Either that, or prison. Several moments in this finale set up a season 7 that the writers knew was never going to happen. I think if there was a season 7, it would be about Tony's luck running out when it comes to getting away from criminal prosecution while alienating himself from his family and friends. When you think about it that way, it's probably best that the show cuts to black and ends when it does.

Namextagxguy

My sympathy ran out for carmela a while ago when she was told to her face about her grim reality having her kids around someone who clearly is at risk of inviting death into there lives and still somehow manage to choose to be ignorant of it all. then i just became an observer knowing she chose a path of risk instead of actually being free naturally being a mafia story u can see it will not go well for her

p0sthum4n

I think Tony is pretty clearly dead if you follow the sequence of shots (Tony's face -> Tony's POV. The last shot is Tony's POV, blackness. You probably don't even hear it when it happens), but ultimately the narrative point isn't so much whether or not he's dead, it's that even if he's still alive, he's going to spend the rest of his life on the edge of his seat, in constant tension, constantly looking over his shoulder, just like we all were here. This last scene is basically his eternal purgatory, forever surrounded by potential killers.

Leia Camilla

Got a few Sopranos related things I'd recommend... Wise Guy: David Chase and the Sopranos is a great little 2-part documentary on the show. Byron Lewis on YouTube has also done some great long-form videos about The Sopranos as well in case you might be interested in any of that. I personally quite like the 20th anniversary cast reunion interview video that's also on YouTube as well.

Anthony Khayat

I've been waiting since Episode 1 to watch you watch the infamous cut to black scene that spawned debates for years afterward and I'm so happy we're finally here.

Flora Smith

FWIW, there’s a magnificent documentary from 2024 called Wise Guy: David Chase and The Sopranos on HBO