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Visiting USA? More Prussia? Subscribestar? Events? - Debriefing #7

Equipment is linked after the questions. »» QUESTIONS «« William Du: What do you eat everyday and how often do you exercise? Trumpetteer: Any plans to visit the States? Yonis: Do you have plans to make videos on Prussia in the 19th Century (the 1806-13 reforms, the wars of unification or even better, the General Staff system)? Also do you plan to organize any meet-up in the coming months? Oh and as a kid did you want to be a soldier or did "the active" part of military affairs never appealed to you? Benjamin: Have you ever been to "Auf Rädern und Ketten"? Do you plan to go there in the future? Malcolm: Have you checked out The Allure of Battle by Cathal Nolan? (The Allure of Battle: A History of How Wars Have Been Won and Lost) Alexander: Did you study computer science and history parallel or one after the other? Also, what was the hardest part in these subjects for you? Kyle: To what extent did the Germans utilize Beutepanzers in WW2? We all know of things like the Panzer 38(t), but what about captured enemy tanks, e.g. T-34s, Shermans, Somua 35s? Nuclear Jackal: What are some of the most inaccurate WW1/WW2 films you have seen or heard of? And if you like, what other films have you seen which are immensely historically inaccurate? Benjamin: I know you've got a military background, so what unit did you serve in and what was your role? Robert: Has there been any study of the actual effects of sabotage by forced labor in Germany during WWII on its logistics or were the effects minimal accept as maybe a moral boost for those under those conditions? Lukas: Are you planning on visiting certain historic sites like battlefields, castles, places of myths and legends and doing non-visualized videos about it? Will there be more "hands on" experience like you had with the MGs? »» EQUIPMENT «« Old Camcorder (til December 2018) - thx to Andrew!!! Panasonic HC-V180EG-K amazon.com (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2t2SqcM amazon.de (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2G8SyAg New Camcorder (since January 2019) Sony FDR-AX53 4K amazon.com (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2DaCque amazon.de (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2S87oNB Zoom H1n (I also use the H1, which is out of production) amazon.com (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2Gmy72a amazon.de (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2S6qiVd Pro Lavalier Lapel Microphone JK MIC-J 044 amazon.com (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2D6QpRH amazon.de (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2BigPj0 »» SUPPORT MHV «« » paypal donation - https://paypal.me/mhvis » patreon - https://www.patreon.com/mhv » subscribe star - https://www.subscribestar.com/mhv » Book Wishlist https://www.amazon.de/gp/registry/wishlist/3LJIXNJIUXJES/ref=cm_wl_huc_view »» MERCHANDISE - SPOILS OF WAR «« » shop - https://www.redbubble.com/people/mhvis/shop » SOURCES « » DISCLAIMER « As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Als Amazon-Partner verdiene ich an qualifizierten Käufen. » CREDITS & SPECIAL THX « Song: Ethan Meixsell - Demilitarized Zone

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Jason Feingold

Could you do something on the actual mechanics of delivering indirect artillery fire in WW2 and different armies' doctrines and practice? What happens between unlimbering and rounds in the air?

Michael Poteat

I am reading this now and it is a complex subject. Field Artillery and Firepower Rev Exp Edition by Maj. Gen. J.B.A. Bailey (Author). An old friend of mine (we are both retired university profs) was an officer in Germany in the early 70's. I visited him a few years ago and knew he has spent a lot of time running race-relations groups when there was a lot of tension (near the end of Vietnam) but ask him about his assigned military specialty. He told me artillery and then related how he spent much of his early assignment in Germany assembling tactical nuclear artillery shells. He related that he was given an manual and read the instructions out to his troops. I think all of the tactically nukes are gone but the history of artillery is complex. I only realized what a high percentage of casualties were caused by artillery and saw a new (to me) phrase: "The artillery does the killing and the infantry do the dying." Also, indirect fire was really first used in WWI to any extent. It was refined and essentially reinvented in during WWII. The USSR I think had the most guns by far but the U.S. developed the most sophisticated fire control system (one of the few areas that the U.S. was the leader). Also, the need for direct fire (which had largely disappeared in WWI) reappeared in WWII because of the need for anti-tank and anti-aircraft guns. I think this is a great topic but also there is so much involved.

Michael Poteat

I also wanted to point out to those of you interested in Armour that I found this book several weeks ago:Panzer Battles: A Study of the Employment of Armor in the Second World War

Military History Visualized

I will look into artillery doctrine for WW2. Although, from my previous experience, I am rather certain that the specific question: What happens between unlimbering and rounds in the air? Might be very hard to track down.

Military History Visualized

I have the book, although so far, I had very limited looking into it. Also I started to look more into German artillery in WW2 lately, sadly, there are very few books out there. Although, I got me 2-3 German army regulations on Artillery.

Michael Poteat

I didn't know but am not surprised that Mellenthin was biased. His forward includes his aristocratic and historical roots. I have read many Memoirs by German soldiers, U-boat captains, and aviators and only a very few (I think two) have mentioned death camps, atrocities, etc. Mellenthin in his forward mentions his admiration for one of the retired Field Marshals who plotted the last attempt to assassinate Hitler but also talks of planning the Fuhrer's 50th birthday celebration (while a staff officer). My question is how is his analysis of the development and use of the Panzers regarded? His description of tactics? I am absolutely not a fanboy of the Germans. But I want to know how effective were their tactics and eventually why they failed. I mean we all probably know the basics that tanks need infantry and combined arms and don't do well in certain types of terrain (wooded mountains for example) but I do find the obsession with the Tiger really strange.

Military History Visualized

well, there is bias and then there is sugar-coating, propaganda, etc. > My question is how is his analysis of the development and use of the Panzers regarded? I can tell you for Guderian, e.g., claiming that General Beck was against Panzer Division, which was clearly not the case looking at the documents. Most Panzer Generals and even historians followed exactly that route. > His description of tactics? here it becomes more tricky, yet, by depicting the enemy as less capable and "winning only/mostly by numbers" the effectiveness of certain tactics might be inflated etc. > But I want to know how effective were their tactics and eventually why they failed. here is the problem, most German generals blamed: Hitler, sometimes party members, the Winter, numerical inferiority and the Mud. Meanwhile all their tactics, operations and other judgements were sound... Also even if no conscious manipulation is going on, you always need to take into account that those Generals lost thousands of their soldiers on the battlefield, as such they must find some way to deal with that, which more likely than not will lead to justification. On top of that, our memory is quite faulty as well. I highly recommend Daniel Schacter: The Seven Sins of Memory. Although, be aware after that book you might have a weird feeling when you hear "I remember exactly" even if mentioned by yourself. My rule of thumb with memoirs is rather simple, unless I don't know the subject matter very very well, I keep away from them. I mean lately I come across various errors in even recently published books by "first tier" historians.

Michael Poteat

Thanks for the recommendations and comments. I taught courses in "Learning and Memory" and "Cognitive Neuroscience" and I am familiar with the research on memory. A friend of mine (who is a Cognitive Psychologist but also has a strong neuroscience background) and I frequently talk about how what we remember is , of course, partly (and not necessarily deliberately) fabricated. You are talking about episodic (generally considered part of explicit) memory. The role of the hippo-campus, amygdala, and the grey matter of the basal ganglia in forming three (but not totally independent) systems of memory for (I am simplifying here) forming explicit, emotional, and spatial memories is a very interesting topic. In the United States, when the idea that children who were abused repressed those memories, and later remember the abuse (or even the murder of friends) lead to a number of now infamous cases of individuals and groups being charged and persecuted. I remember exactly my military ID and my GRE (graduate admission test) scores were but I know better than to say I remember exactly what happened in a romantic encounter from 40 years ago. I highly recommend Dale Purves' book on Cognitive Neuroscience. But you are correct memories are not perfect (Penfield's research suggesting that once something was in long term memory it was stored exactly and forever caused a lot of confusion). I have read so many accounts of the RAF's bomber offense against Germany that I have run across duplicate accounts of what happened aboard a single aircraft (usually when someone did something really heroic) and it is interesting to note the differences in recollections. Both individuals, for example, remember that a crew member did something truly heroic but the sequence and specifics of the event are not recollected identically. Of course, the individuals initial observation of the events was probably not exact. "In war, truth is the first casualty." according to Aeschylus (although I have seen this statement attributed to a variety of people). And based on my memory I thought this quote was from Herodotus and would probably have bet money on my being correct. Certainly, the idea that the Western Allies won WW2 in Europe (alone) is a common misconception. However, the U.S. would never have tolerated the causality rates suffered by the Soviets -- or the Germans. At least not in a "foreign" war.

Michael Moran

Tried to send you a book on your Amazon wish list, but since your link is to the German site I failed. Therefore, I just upgraded my Patreon status instead. It might be a good idea to enable people to make a one time donation as well.

Military History Visualized

Hi Michael, first, thank you! ohhh, yeah, I forgot that amazon doesn't switch to the correct lanuage, here is the proper link: <a href="https://www.amazon.de/gp/registry/wishlist/3LJIXNJIUXJES/ref=cm_wl_huc_view?language=en_GB" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.de/gp/registry/wishlist/3LJIXNJIUXJES/ref=cm_wl_huc_view?language=en_GB</a> note that amazon.com and .de share existing users, so your .com account works perfectly fine there. The reason for .de is that there is no shipping cost involved to Austria. About one-time donations, sadly Patreon does not support them, yet you can do them via <a href="https://paypal.me/mhvis" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://paypal.me/mhvis</a> if you like. Cheers, Bernhard

Military History Visualized

oh well, yeah, usually no one knows about this stuff. one of the worst things from Memory errors about veterans is, when the mix up parts from movies with their own experiences. And I am not entirely sure, but I think it happens quite often. One relative also once told me a story, which for me seemed it was mixed with stuff from a documentary.

Michael Poteat

I appreciate this site and the author and co-authors because while folks may disagree it is done in an appropriate and civil manner.

Fritz Krammer

Hopes to meet MHV one day, has a 30 second respond. Hope you visit someplace nice like DC so to meet you while also getting the chance to visit other important sights. Would be glad to thank you for all you work one day but until the great Field Marshal of research would enlighten us to his plans that days awaits. Otherwise thanks for the responses

Military History Visualized

sorry, I thought I talked about the USA trip far longer. I guess for me the whole trip is just linked to all the planning and other trips I do now, thus I thought I talked for longer about it. After all without the current trips in Europe a visit to the USA makes little sense. Yeah, the main issue with a USA trip is West Coast? East Coast? Where to stay, schedule, whom to meet, what to visit, etc. I started now to create excel sheets for each individual trip I did in the past and future, to see "the real cost", because quite often, food, etc. is not fully covered due to food being not tax-deductible. Also if I go to the USA, I will do fan meetings as well, similarly for those I have no experience so far.

Minion

Mate, your accent is whatever, and your vocabulary is improving to the point that it's probably now more nuanced than a lot of folk that have English as a first language. What you DO have is the ability to sift through German language sources, and discuss them in English. Not to mention your attention to detail, and your constant appraisal of the accuracy or biases of the sources you use.

Josef Block

I am writing this in the hope that it is such an excellent question that MHV will consider it worthy of a video even though I am not in the contribution tier to expect that to happen. It is April/May 1941 and Stalin calls in his top military commanders and says he is getting a bit nervous about Hitler and the build up of German troops on the border. He asks them to study the situation and the current balance of forces deployed on the Soviet western front and to report to him with recommended actions to counter any German attack. Leaving the border unprotected by drawing the border units a few hundred miles into the interior is not an option and neither are any overtly provocative actions. 1)What does his staff recommend 2) are these moves likely to be effective and to what extent 3) with perfect hindsight, what moves would have been effective but not necessarily chosen by the military officials for whatever reason. Stalin biographer Prof. Stephen Kotkin postulates that the Soviet Union would have been worse off had they done the "smart" moves to counter the Germans. He also argues that Stalins "stupid" counterattacks with combat ineffective units were a crucial factor in slowing down the German advance on Moscow in 1941 and the ultimate failure of Barbarossa. Hoping that you find these questions worthy basis for an upcoming video. Keep up the great work!

Military History Visualized

well, I am usually not too much into alternate history. Also the sources for this aspect are rather scarce. About the counter attacks, from what I remember the main problem were not the counter-attacks itself, yet, more the aspect that they were often completely uncoordinated and thus far less effective, e.g., my video on German Infantry Anti-Tank Tactics, they often assume that the Soviet tanks are used without infantry which according to Hill was the case in 1941 and sometimes even beyond. Yet, then again it could have actually been the best option at hand, although that is doubtful. I will keep the questions in mind, when I take a closer look at Barbarossa again.