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Why you never heard about the Rzhev Meat Grinder (Patreon)

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Never heard of Rzhev Meat Grinder? Here is why...

The Battles for the Rzhev Salient are usually only covered "on the side" when it comes to Eastern Front both in Soviet/Russian and German literature. This of course begs the question: Why? Of course, some note ideological reasons, yet at a closer look this does explain some aspects of it, yet does not really hold at all for the German side. So, why are the Rzehv Battles forgotten? »» SUPPORT MHV «« » paypal donation - https://paypal.me/mhvis » patreon - https://www.patreon.com/mhv » subscribe star - https://www.subscribestar.com/mhv » Book Wishlist https://www.amazon.de/gp/registry/wishlist/3LJIXNJIUXJES/ref=cm_wl_huc_view »» MERCHANDISE - SPOILS OF WAR «« » shop - https://www.redbubble.com/people/mhvis/shop » SOURCES « Gerasimova, Svetlana: The Rzhev Slaughterhouse. The Red Army’s Forgotten 15-Month Campaign against Army Group Center, 1942-1943. Helion & Company Limited: Solihull, 2013. Amazon.com (affiliate): https://amzn.to/2WmjVeZ Amazon.de (affiliate): https://amzn.to/2S7cDfY Mawdsley, Evan: Thunder in the East. The Nazi-Soviet War 1941-1945. Second Edition. Bloomsbury: London, 2016. Amazon.com (affiliate): https://amzn.to/2Wp3puS Amazon.de (affiliate): https://amzn.to/2UkPR1k Das Deutsche Reich und der Zweite Weltkrieg – Band 6. Der globale Krieg – Die Ausweitung zum Weltkrieg und der Wechsel der Initiative 1941 bis 1943, Deutsche Verlags-Anstalt: Stuttgart, 1990 Amazon.de link(affiliate): https://amzn.to/2RrO75J Germany and the Second World War – Volume 6 – The Global War Amazon.com (affiliate): http://amzn.to/2iSsxut Glantz, David M.; House, Jonathan M.: The Battle of Kursk. University of Kansas Press: United States, 1999. amazon.com (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2ROJczT amazon.de (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2B3M41m Glantz, David M.: Colossus Reborn. The Red Army at War, 1941-1943. University Kansas Press: Kansas, US, 2005 amazon.com (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2D9Qp5Y amazon.de (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2Ri1Lrt Glantz, David M.; House, Jonathan M.: When Titans Clashed. How the Red Army stopped Hitler. Revised and Expanded Edition. University Press of Kansas: USA, 2015 amazon.com (affiliate): https://amzn.to/2MmsmSu amazon.de (affiliate): https://amzn.to/2JzwKzL Das Deutsche Reich und der Zweite Weltkrieg – Band 8 Amazon.de (affiliate): http://amzn.to/2z6bN7j ENGLISH VERSION: Germany and the Second World War – Volume 8 – The Eastern Front 1943-1944: The War in the East and on the Neighbouring Fronts Amazon.com (affiliate): https://amzn.to/2H5sRhB » DISCLAIMER « As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Als Amazon-Partner verdiene ich an qualifizierten Käufen. » CREDITS & SPECIAL THX « Song: Ethan Meixsell - Demilitarized Zone #MilitaryHistory #ForgottenBattles #Rzhev

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William Carraway

Great video. I think we amateur historians often become – unconsciously perhaps – wedded to certain narrative frameworks that we receive through our reading; this is certainly true of the 1941-45 conflict on the eastern front. I started out in my teens – a very long time ago – reading German-centric accounts like Paul Carell’s “Hitler Moves East: 1941-43, “Lost Victories” by Erich Von Manstein, and “Panzer Leader” by Heinz Guderain; the latter two of the “if only Hitler had listened to me” school. My reading became more nuanced as I grew older and discovered Alexander Werth, Alan Clark, and others. When I read parts of the official “Great Patriotic War” when it became available, I wasn’t sure we were talking about the same war. Lately I have come across really excellent writing dealing with the Wehrmacht’s insurmountable logistic problems, the blindness of the German generals to economic imperatives that Hitler saw clearly, and the essential soundness of the Soviet Union’s conduct of the war, won at terrible and much unappreciated cost. Through all these years of reading, however, I have never deviated from the “Barbarossa – counter-offensive – Fall Blau – Stalingrad – Kursk – Russian steamroller – Berlin” narrative. Thanks for getting me out of this rut.

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thank you, yeah, 1942 brings even more to the table, because the North is usually ignored as well, just finished a script on that one for an upcoming video. And the author notes that the North in 1942 gets ignored even in academic circles for the most part, so it is clearly not limited to "amateur historians".

KB

You probably get lots of "you should see this video" comments, but the Eastory channel has a video animating 1942 that touches on the Rzhev salient several times with the various Soviet attacks, German counterattacks, pockets created and reduced, etc. This video gives a 'big picture' vies that links well to yours.