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Panther - Wartime Reports (Patreon)

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Panther: Wartime Reports & First-Hand Experience

Sponsored by World of Tanks! Register here ► https://tanks.ly/2Wc49lo to receive a T-127 Premium Tank, 500 Gold and 7 days Premium access with the code TANKTASTIC. Applicable to new users only. In this video we look at wartime reports that talked about the Panzerkampfwagen V Panther, additionally we talk to Lt. Colonel Pierre Garnier de Labareyre and tank mechanic Richard Ledormeur of the French Tank Museum at Saumur. Colorization of the cover done by vonKickass. »» SUPPORT MHV «« » paypal donation - https://paypal.me/mhvis » patreon - https://www.patreon.com/mhv » subscribe star - https://www.subscribestar.com/mhv » Book Wishlist https://www.amazon.de/gp/registry/wishlist/3LJIXNJIUXJES/ref=cm_wl_huc_view?language=en_GB »» MERCHANDISE «« » teespring - https://teespring.com/stores/military-history-visualized » SOURCES « Töppel, Roman: Gesammelte Erfahrungsberichte zum Panther. Unveröffentlicht, 2019 Jentz, Thomas L.: Panzertruppen – The Complete Guide to the Creation & Combat Employment of Germany’s Tank Force – 1943-1945. Schiffer Military History: Atglen, USA, 1996. Amazon.com (affiliate): https://amzn.to/2XprqWN Amazon.de (affiliate): https://amzn.to/2J8ys9l Dienstvorschrift D 655/27, Panther-Fibel, 1944. Pöhlmann, Markus: Der Panzer und die Mechanisierung des Krieges: Eine deutsche Geschichte 1890 bis 1945. Ferdinand Schöningh: Paderborn, 2016. amazon.de (affiliate): http://amzn.to/2ELyDX1 Töppel, Roman: Kursk 1943. The Greatest Battle of the Second World War. Helion: Warwick, UK: 2018. amazon.com (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2NnkbGC amazon.de (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2GJY3pt Jentz, Thomas L.: Germany’s Panther Tank. The Quest for Combat Supremacy. Schiffer Military History: Atglen, PA, USA, 1995 amazon.com (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2JxYB0e amazon.de (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2LIFLXk Hunnicutt, R. P.: SHERMAN: A History of the American Medium Tank. Echo Points & Media, Vermont, USA, 2015 (1978) amazon.com (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2FYMKHW amazon.de (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2LK1Jcc Spielberger, Walter J.; Doyle, Hilary L.: Panzer V Panther und seine Abarten. Motorbuch Verlag: Gerlingen, Germany, 2010 amazon.com (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2JAvPwl amazon.de (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2YHKxb1 Tank Archives: Panther Trials, 2014. https://tankarchives.blogspot.com/2014/04/panther-trials.html Zaloga, Steven: Armored Champion. The top Tanks of World War II. Stackpole Books: Mechanicsburg, US, 2015. amazon.com (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2PTJQHo amazon.de (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2PTKdlg Doyle, Hilary; Jentz, Tom: Panther Variants 1942-1945. Osprey: London, UK, 1997. amazon.com (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2Jk6qrD amazon.de (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/2Xy9X9F Moran, Nicholas “Chieftain“: Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Panther. Part 1. World of Tanks North America, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xKYicir_i8 Moran, Nicholas “Chieftain“: Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Panther. Part 2. World of Tanks North America, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL2KO2maIkU Moran, Nicholas “Chieftain“: Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Panther. Part 3. World of Tanks North America, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXYRQjzZZbk Tank Chats #16 Panther | The Tank Museum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rUocSj2dHc DasPanzermuseum: Geschichte(n) aus Stahl: Liebling der Massen – der Panther (S02E04) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otRgdY6Chd4 » ATTRIBUTION « Bundesarchiv, Bild 101I-244-2321-34 / Waidelich / CC-BY-SA 3.0 Foto: Waidelich, 1944 August - September, Ostfront-Süd, Panzer V (Panther). https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-244-2321-34,_Ostfront-S%C3%BCd,_Panzer_V_(Panther).jpg » DISCLAIMER « As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Als Amazon-Partner verdiene ich an qualifizierten Käufen. #ad #sponsored #WorldOfTanks

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Volker Hartmann

I would not say that the good steering is of minor importance, quite on the contrary it might have been even of crucial importance. I can't recall the study, but I think it was about fighter-jets in the Korean War. A USAF-engineer was astonished that most dogfights between the newest American ighter and the newest Sowjet fighter were won by the american although the Sowjet fighter had the better maneuverability. As it turned out the problem was that it had an hydraulic steering system while the American was electric (maybe it was mechanic and hydraulic), i.e. the American fighter pilot needed to use less force for each maneuver. Since the fight did usually not end at the beginning the Sowjet-pilot got eventually out-iterated since he got tired faster. If we apply this to the Panther there are following factors: that there are four other crewmen who do not benefit of this advantage reduces the importance - however, the Wehrmacht-regulation for tanks states that a mistake of a single crewmember can mean death for all, everything which reduces the probability of a mistake of one member is good for all. Furthermore considering that Richard stresses out that in other tanks you needed to use a lot of force while the Panther needed only little force makes the difference in force needed more steep than in the fighter-example. This means that the driver saves with each turn of the tank a significant amount of energy than his opponent. If one keeps in mind that a tank-unit could remain for quite a long time in the field without having a rest, I would even say that one can say that his muscles did not run the risk of suffering a cramp, which in a combat situation could be fatal. If we also consider the fact that the Panther had to rely on maneuvering to compensate for its weakness, one can speculate that it needed to maneuver quite often and one may take as given that this advantage was crucial for the survivability of the Panther, since making a turn one second earlier or later could be the difference between live and death. --- Maybe I have overestimated here a bit, but I think one can make the case that this factor is more important than just a nice to have for the driver. In any case Chieftain or your colleagues from Munster can give a qualified opinion on this point

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>>25782042

well, I don't think you can compare tanks that move rather slowly and clumsily around the battlefield, usually fire while not moving and also usually win, if they fire first with (jet) aircraft. For WW2 tanks, I specifically read that most of them rarely used their top speed in combat or even came close to it. Additionally, a fighter pilot also has to do tactics, aiming, etc. the driver is usually commanded to go to a certain place, of course keeping various aspects in mind, but he is neither the main brains nor eyes of the tank. Another point is, the guys back them were used to manual labor to an extent that most of us have no idea. It is an interesting idea, yet, I don't think the situation is comparable at all.