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Early Access: "Panzer Aces"? (Patreon)

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2019-12-12 04:38:51
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"Panzer Aces" about Panzer Aces? Nonsense? Lies?

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Volker Hartmann

What I conclude from what Dr RT tells about the tank aces (let's keep the term for experienced commanders) is that tank-combat was not only trained and executed as team-work within a tank but also between tanks of a unit. Obviously to such an extent that commanders did not even perceive a tank kill as "theirs". Probably already because they were focused on the overall situation and were unable to observe whether their gunner or another gunner had knocked out the enemy tank and maybe also because they operated as a platoon and thus perceived a kill as the kill of the platoon. Here it comes to mind that the Wehrmacht had the doctrine of never using tanks in smaller numbers than four. So this was their mindset and therefore they probably did not even bother of counting their kills. And tank-ace was than simply a very successfull team-player who was perceived by other commanders as someone who made the platoon or company better but necessarily someone who achieved with his individual tank many kills. In any case a very interesting information. Would be curious to hear Chieftain elaborate on this.

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>>30032716

yeah, I mean the regulations also state the error of one man, can kill everyone in the tank. In comparison, I don't think this is the case for an aircraft or at least not to that degree. Yeah, other issue is in the air, once you engage a plane there is not much to hide. Whereas on the ground, I think it is hard to tell how many wrecks are out there in case you don't control the battlefield and even then. Of course, planes don't stay around that makes it harder too.

Volker Hartmann

It just occured to my while watching the video you did with Bismarck: Didn't company- and battalion-comanders sit in "Panzerbefehlswägen" (comand-tanks)? Those vehicels do not even have a canon and therefore aren't even able to destroy any tank unless by ramming it in an act of desperation.

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>>32749510

I am not sure with what type of tank that changed exactly, I am rather certain that the Panther and Tiger had command tanks with guns, I know that there were Panzer III with dummy guns, but maybe later version actually had a real gun already. For the Panzer IV I actually don't know at all.