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Did the Taiping Rebellion cause the Boxer Rebellion?

PhD Candidate in the Department of History at the University of Calgary talks about the influence of the Taiping Rebellion / Civil War on the Boxer Rebellion / Uprising / Wars. Joe is a PhD Candidate in the Department of History at the University of Calgary. His Thesis concerns Anglo-Japanese military relations during the period of 1894-1905 with a special focus on the Boxer War. Follow Justin on twitter https://twitter.com/CBI_PTO_History @CBI_PTO_History Follow Joe on twitter https://twitter.com/JoeFonsecaHist @JoeFonsecaHist Follow MHV on twitter https://twitter.com/MilHiVisualized @MilHiVisualized Cover used https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Taiping_Heavenly_Kingdom_Banner.svg by Samhanin - Mìng-dĕ̤ng-ngṳ̄: Tái-bìng-tiĕng-guók gì gì - English: Flag of Taiping Heavenly Kingdom »» SUPPORT MHV «« » patreon, see videos early (adfree) - https://www.patreon.com/join/mhv » subscribe star - https://www.subscribestar.com/mhv » paypal donation - https://paypal.me/mhvis »» MERCHANDISE «« » teespring - https://teespring.com/stores/military-history-visualized » SOURCES « Selected Primary Sources: Brown, Frederick. From Tientsin to Peking with the Allied Forces. London: Charles H. Kelly, 1902. Giles, Lancelot. The Siege of the Peking Legations: A Diary by Lancelot Giles. L. R. Marchant Ed. Nedlands: University of Western Australia Press, 1970. Hooker, Mary. Behind the Scenes in Peking: Being the Experiences During the Siege of the Legations. London: John Murray, Albemarle Street, W. 1910; Internet Archive, 2008. https://archive.org/details/cu31924023151131. Landor, Arnold Henry Savage. China and the Allies. London: W. Heinemann, 1901. MacDonald, Claude A. “The Japanese Detachment During the Defense of the Peking Legations, 1900,” in Transactions and Proceedings of the Japan Society London. Henri L. Joly, Ed. Nendeln: Kraus Reprint, 1971. Martin, William A. P. The Siege in Peking: China Against the World. London: Oliphant Anderson and Ferrier, 1900. Steel, Richard A. Though Peking’s Sewer: Relief of the Boxer Siege, 1900-1901. George W. Carrington Ed. New York: Vantage Press, 1985. Secondary Sources: Bickers, Robert and R.G. Tiedemann, The Boxers, China, and the World. New York: Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, Inc., 2007. Cohen, Paul. History in Three Keys: The Boxers as Event, Experience, and Myth. Columbia University Press, 1998. Esherick, Joseph. The Origins of the Boxer Uprising. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1987. Hosoya, Chihiro and Ian Nish Eds. The History of Anglo-Japanese Relations, 1600-2000: Volume II: The Political-Diplomatic Dimension, 1931-2000. Ian Nish and Yoichi Kibata Eds., London: Macmillan Press Ltd., 2000. ———. The History of Anglo-Japanese Relations, 1600-2000: Volume III: The Military Dimension. Ian Gow and Yoichi Hirama Eds., London: Macmillan Press Ltd., 2000. Silbey, David. The Boxer Rebellion and the Great Game in China. New York: Hill and Wang, 2012. Otsuka, Umio. “Coalition Coordination during the Boxer Rebellion: How Twenty-Seven “Councils of Senior Naval Commanders” Contributed to the Conduct of Operations,” Naval War College Review: Vol. 71: No.4. (2018) https://digital-commons.usnwc.edu/nwc-review/vol71/iss4/8 #TaipingRebellion #BoxerRebellion #BoxerWars

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Christopher Hollins

Sorry I was not clear. I understand completely the logic behind your analysis of the US' decision on Lend Lease. I was born in 1947 and my father was a European Theater veteran so I get the whole American schtick on WWII. I imbibed American pragmatism while growing up. But I have outgrown that since I assumed a God centered world view. The US response in both world wars resulted in our being judged right along with Europe I personally believe. We responded out of pride. Ok!

Christopher Hollins

So, sorry I was not clear in my post but in this case my no-Lend Lease premise was merely hypothetical. I thought you had entertained it so I was offering a possible analysis strategy in the apparent absence of any other way to reach a conclusion. The idea was to ask how brittle the internal leadership of the USSR would prove under the additional stress of no Lend Lease, Again, sorry I was not clearer.

Military History Visualized

ah sorry, I got that wrong. Extremely hard to tell since we know relatively little about the USSR and their leadership. I know there was a very brief panic in Moscow in 1941 at one point, but it apparently stop almost immediately. Mark Harrison did a paper on how close the Soviet economy was to a collapse, which is also a lot about the human factor, e.g., at which point citizen stop doing "their work" and just look for their own survival. He noted, we don't know and likely will never know, but without lend-lease it would have been definitely closer.