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2022-03-27 18:26:29
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Tuesday: Are Molotov Cocktails effective against Modern(!) Tanks?

Friday: Not sure yet

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Raul Ramos

I have been involved in the integration of firefighting systems, both active and passive of several armoured vehicles. I have certainly not been in combat though. What you mention of the morale is without a doubt the big issue. Any amoured vehicle will suffer combat degradation under such an attack, visibility and focus, as the crew must focus on fighting the fire and assessing damage plus, obviously, react to the attack. Additionally, if you get hit by a petrol bomb, you might get another one, that will be important later. I must insist, that I am not familiar with Russian firefighting systems nor with their procedures. A disclaimer, if you wish. You mentioned, wisely, that you assume vehicles to be well maintained. Vehicle maintenance is a huge thing assessing the survivability, no different from a road vehicle on dangerous roads. While going on details of how much “good” or “bad” maintained will surely blow the scope of the video, it is in my opinion/experience almost the whole key. It is so because of the philosophy behind it. When designing such systems, one can go at length with technical systems. Now, the question is how reliable are those systems? How difficult are they to use? A fire on deck has the immediate danger of reducing visibility and as you mention, to force the most stubborn to button down. Depending on the system, there might be different bottles because your firefighting system is basically one go. If it’s split into engine / deck / internal is still one go each. Hatches and periscopes are never tight, water cleaning for periscopes have often rubber parts and there are rubber sealings that might melt or get damaged. NBQ systems need to be activated, and for that they need to work, which is not such a trivial thing. Even if they work, they do pull air from outside, so a well placed fire might render it useless. Note: there is a big question that will pop more often, whether the stream of air might put of the fire. This is, as far as I know, anyone’s guess. It might or it might not. Fumes however are not to be disregarded. Fire on the engine bay is no fun. While I believe I get your point of addressing the fording capabilities, the question is what does happen in the engine bay. For one, fumes can put out the engine ,even clog the air filter or make it burn (there are fiberglass filters, oil filters, paper filters…) Engine stalling is NOT what you want if you have gone blind. The driver is advised to keep an eye on engine rpms and have torque. Large amounts of air are sucked by the engine and while I am by far no expert on Russian or Soviet designs, the key is not to avoid water during fording but to pump it out. This is a maintenance issue in itself. Do they actually work? Are the plugs all right? Are there any rests inside, like oil, fuel,grease or other debris that may caught fire? (the answer is always yes, all of them) You have one bottle, one go, which hopefully will be automatic and hopefully will put it out without causing damage. There are many wires and rubber piping in the engine bay. The fire fighting system will be degraded, possibly, by the cooling system at high speed (due to high engine load because of the torque demand) A lot of things can potentially go south. From wires, losing engine control, oil or fuel leak, cooling system damage, either radiators, fans Now, you’d be surprised how many of these automatic systems are overridden? Why? The vehicles are maintenance intensive and crews are scared of the firefighting system going off. I myself am. There are many legends on how they may go off and it is a bloody mess, so for all work I always made sure they were on manual. Additionally, you cannot forget the reality. Netting, camouflage, cooking implements, everything stored outside, The driver is going to be busy checking the vehicle, commander must manage guiding the driver and dealing with the threat and fighting the fire. As you mentioned, this is the deal. More than one is also usual, so if the crew is busy, they might be easier pray for a well placed rocket. Even fire on the tracks is an issue, The firefighting system will only be partially effective and the rubber can and will burn. It might warm up the plates significantly and affect road wheel bearings and the hydraulics of the tension system. All in all I do agree that it won’t necessarily destroy the vehicle but it will create chaos and eventually lead to the crew abandoning it and that is as good, for very little cost Sorry the long thing... I've kept some points short as not to make it... Longer 😊. As always, very good video and very well structured!

Military History Visualized
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Thank you very much for all these points! I find it interesting, since I am extremely on the fence on the whole topic, since Chieftain added something along the lines that napalm tests showed that it was not particularly effective against tanks. So far it seems people are either: nah it will be fine or most likely it will be a problem; just on the technical side. Sorry for the late reply.