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Wyatt Ready

I’m so frustrated about oba just saying I don’t want the title shot that makes 0 sense

Inexplicable Shorts

Somehow Rollins will go down as underrated in this business when he does hang it up. Despite all of his accomplishments, and there are many, I don’t think people appreciate just how much he’s given to the WWE. How he’s lived, breathed and bled for it for over ten years.

Wheels

How many times can we watch Roman versus Seth? it feels like the same story over and over again? It should be Oba vs Roman on night 2 after retiring Brock Lesnar, one night one because in my opinion they did not come up with a good enough reason for Oba giving up his title shot. It makes the title and the champion look unimportant

Matt Adams

So they have completely killed anything they had with Oba, he's just gonna "wait" on his title match because of Brock? Makes him an idiot. I couldn't possible less about anything with the bloodline, especially their "epic" title match between Roman and Seth. This show was unwatchable! Only good thing was Gable and JD. Absolute garbage!

KET

Roman vs Seth to me right now is getting to John Cena vs Randy Orton levels of I don't want to see these two feud again. Seth and Roman have put on good matches in the past but it's to the point where it's overdone for me.

Myles Henderson

As predictable as it was and they chose the some what most boring way to summerslam, I’m still pumped to see oba/brock HIAC. I somewhat have faith that Roman/Seth might not just be the Copy Paste match from years past. But I’m probably asking too much

Jake Miller

Why become WWE Champion or World Heavyweight Champion when I can wrestle Brock Lesnar for nothing again?!?!

Joe Green

So king of the ring was completely pointless then? Oba doesn’t get a title shot and (smackdown spoiler) jey uso gets a #1 contender match for the title what even is the point

Graff

Oba saying he didn't need the title shot just yet is the equivalent of Bron saying we got a lot to learn. Who wrote this crap! Pull the trigger already my goodness.

mike wolfe

An odd point to bring up, but did they really state Jimmy Uso's weight at 271 pounds? So in other words, he'd have to cut weight to make the UFC's heavyweight division. I know WWE has always exaggerated weights but this one might be the most egregious in recent memory.

Untrusted 0ne

I haven't watched it yet because I my wife and I watch it together. All I'm going to say is if they haven't done anything to fix the horrible booking of Bron Breaker im losing faith in the booking. I hope that when I tune into this podcast after watching Raw you guys are talking about Oba Femi going after Roman Reigns, Bronson Reed is back from injury reunited with Bron Breaker terrorizing the upper card, the street profits are going to face some actual tag teams that arent the vision. The judgement day finally explodes leaving Liv on her own. Penta isn't taking the world by storm anymore and reunites with his brother, and Roman Reigns entrance is cut short. But that's a lot to hope for I'll just take one.....

Dizzy Gal

I found it funny that Brock stated like three times in his promo that he doesn’t watch the show and relies on Heyman to give him the recap. With all ads and lackluster booking, I don’t really watch the show much either and pretty much let Wrestling YouTube tell me everything I need to know

Brett A

Seth vs Roman should be a great match, but omg I dont care about the bloodline or the shield. Please move forward.

Moses

If WWE really wanted to do Roman vs Seth and Oba vs Brock, why didn’t they have Seth win KOTR and have Brock cost Oba in the first round? Instead They’ve made Oba look pretty dumb and are relying on 12 year old “Shield Lore”. Why can’t this creative team even do the basic things right?

Vectron44

First Raw on the road to Stopgap- I mean Summerslam! Sami wins the belt and rather than give him an interesting first challenger like Trick Williams or CM Punk they've decided to tie the yeeting albatross of Jey Uso around his neck. Also, wouldn't it be nice for Roman to actually acknowledge that Oba could have picked him, or beat his cousin or friggin' anything to put him over?! The kayfabe used to connect so well, now it seems more and more like Bloodline Island.

Brian Moore

I know some people are gonna be mad about Oba pausing on his title shot but if this HIAC is as gruesome as I think it'll be then I'd rather not have him wrestling back to back that weekend

Brian Moore

With them doing HIAC I don't think Oba would be in any shape to wrestle back to back nights

Michael Trayner

With the way the Main event went, it pretty much confirmed that brock is more and likely beating sami at some point before summer slam. That way OBA can become champion and not have to beat Roman. Really makes me think that Seth was originally supposed to win the tournament instead of OBA

Brian Moore

When Seth mentioned about the young generation coming up I knew he was talking about guys like Oba and Bron but it made me realize they haven't really made any male stars from the later era of black and gold NXT. The era women like Rhea, Iyo, and Bianca came up from but the men's side haven't had huge stars made outside of the early Dusty era NXT. The biggest name from later black and gold they've made is Damian Priest.

Brody Allsep

Oba could pick Roman, who he has been feuding with through The Usos, or he could pick newly crowned champion Sami Zayn, who has had great matches with bigger opponents. Or, to quote Tempest on an episode of Worst Match Ever, "There's a secret third option!" Since he is completely giving up the World Championship shot, I think this tops Theory's cash in and Alba Fyre and Zoey Stark's Tag Tournament win going for the NXT Championship instead as the dumbest decisions of guaranteed title shots. Would include the whole Viper in the Family bit, but at least he got the shot back and won.

Darren Lloyd

Spent a month saying King of the Ring gets a match at Summerslam to basically move it till whenever Oba wants. Even if Brock gets a title off of Sami, Oba never decided the belt he would challenge for

Wheels

I don’t disagree with you at all. I don’t think the story has built in a way that it deserves to be a HIAC in my opinion the best way to book a big man versus big man is to make it a quick match and that’s what they’ve been doing so far

Sedin Magic15

This was..an episode of Raw. The opening and closing segments of the show were good, it just didn't seem like much happened in between. I did laugh when Michael Cole called the Joe Hendry/Auston Theory match "impromptu"....after Theory told Paul Heyman he had a match, maybe 5 minutes earlier

PineJohn

And just like that, any excitement I had after NoC died out so WWE can do the safe, boring option so nothing meaningful change. I'm already expecting Sami to lose the title before SummerSlam...

James H.

"Championships can wait." You have got to be kidding me.

BlackYakuzu94

They somehow made the entire last month feel pointless by having Oba postpone his title opportunity, because you can just do that apparently. The funnier part is that they implicitly buried BOTH world titles by having Oba consider them to be less of a priority than beating Brock, so good job making your world champions feel important, one of is Roman Reigns btw. This was a fine RAW otherwise aside from the confusing booking of Oba. IYO is outnumbered against Liv, and Chad continues his redemption arc. With Sami presumably safe from Brock, do you think we could get Sami and Chad for the WWE Title?

Lily Petal

I will reply in the spirit Oli since he is on his honeymoon. WWE did this because they are bad at booking and do not care.

Blake Whitehouse

I’m cool with Oba saying he can wait for the title. Oba has been presented as smart so far. If he isn’t past Brock Lesnar, then psychologically, he’s going to have to worry about Lesnar potentially costing him the match. If he goes against Roman, he cannot afford any additional distractions- and he knows that.

Lily Petal

Ummm, er, ah, yeah, hmmm, well . . . .

Lily Petal

Sami is losing to Brock at the SNME in July.

Brandon

I feel like people might be overreacting to the Brock/Oba match's lack of stakes at the moment. all this did was confirm to me that Brock is 100% going to beat Sami for the universal title probably at SNME and it will be title vs "career" in the HIAC. light spoiler for smackdown but Sami is defending the title on the next Raw instead of smackdown despite it being against a fellow smackdown guy so I can see someone from Raw like Brock jumping him after the successful defense. I know WWE hasn't blessed us with the ability to give benefit of the doubt yet but with this HIAC confirmed as a MAIN EVENT (likely night one) I feel the title getting added is inevitable. now, is this the best way they could have done this idea? no. but doing fine enough ideas in the worst ways possible is the WWE way at the moment so why act shocked.

DennyDorko

I'm fine with Oba waiting for his title shot. Imagine if Oba wins the World Heavyweight Title at Money in the Bank, and then the winner from earlier cashes in on him, only for Oba to beat him too. Oba would instantly become a wrestling god.

Jamaal Ellison

I need a creative overhaul from top to bottom. Oba looks like an absolute moron. You threw away a main event shot at the biggest box office attraction in professional wrestling history to wrestle a retired Brock Lesnar? And they knew it was a crap decision; that's why they had Adam Pearce ask Oba backstage to reiterate his choice to forgo his main event opportunity at SummerSlam. Why not have Jey win via Brock's interference and wrestle Sami at SummerSlam? This company...

Lily Petal

My question is this, was this episode of RAW better or worse than Billy Gunn? Gable and JD had a great match! They do not get nearly enough credit and they deserve some shine. Lyra's explanation was intriguing. I am interested. I really liked Seth's promo on Roman, but, and I say this as a huge Shield fan, when will we be done with Roman and Seth???

Alex Brett

Just when this lot get some positive vibes for the first time in months at Night of Champions they go ahead and make Oba look like an idiot and give us Shield Drama (TM) part 684 instead of strapping the rocket to him.

Dev King

What was the point of KOTR/QOTR, if they were gonna be this dense they could have just not run the tournaments and had iyo win a #1 contender and make Seth vs Bron a #1 contender match. Ohhh the point is THEY ARE STILL BAD AT BOOKING AND DON’T CARE. Honestly AAA and NXT are the only reasons i keep up with WWE

Dev King

Also Congratulations to Oli!

Brent

Remember how everyone was complaining about how bad the build of the triple threat between Iyo, Rhea, and Bianca from Wrestlemania 41 was. I think I would rather have that than what we got on tonight's Raw. Oba winning King of the Ring only to have him fight Brock for no title is rather pointless. At least have a stip saying that if Oba loses, he gives up his title shot to Brock. Seth getting a title shot at Summerslam could easily be much cleaner if he was the one wins King of the Ring. Also I really hope the rumor of Sami facing Brock at SNME only drop the title to Brock isn't true but it's definitely something WWE of any era would do. This is the prime example of WWE booking for the moment not the future. They wanted Oba to win King of the Ring but they booked themselves into the corner with Brock. I think both Oba/Brock in Hell in a Cell and Seth/Roman for the title will be great matches but they took the road that look like a shortcut but it was full of bumps and potholes and constantly curving to get there. Besides that I like the Lyra promo. It looks like she just woke up and haven't done her hair and makeup making her a bit unhinged. It was funny that both Michael Cole and Corey Graves both had the same color of suit jacket.

KingWickedLee

Talk shit - get Hit was the highlight of the night and that's saying a lot. What are we doing with the men's IC title? I keep forgetting Penta is the Champion. Can we give up on the Vision and idk give Austin theory the IC title lol.

Flame4506

Only two parts of Raw worth watching this week. The opening with Oba and Brock and the closing with Roman and Seth. Spent most of the LA Knight vs Jimmy Uso match watching penalties for Germany vs Paraguay. So glad it started two hours early so I didn't have to waste my night watching it. Even if I did stay up anyway to watch the Netherlands lose to Morocco. At least that was an enjoyable use of my time

Rhine Kemplin

This episode should have some mixed reviews! Lovely to have Dan back for an extended stay! I just wanted to ask if you know anything about how Pete, Tempest, and Sat are doing? Ive been a listener for about 5 years and miss hearing from those fellow wrestling fans!

Chris deaton

I’m okay with them saving Oba’s title match (unless Brock does beat Sami) for Brock vs Oba in Hell in a Cell.

Brett A

Like trying to fire an unemployed person 2 months after you fired them

Joshua Shepherd

I'm pretty sure the booking we will see for a while is "You'll never see it coming"

Peter Siddorn

Didn't see an Oba Brock HITC match coming but still took just 48 hours to make me going from I'm looking forward to watching Summerslam to I'll just watch the Wrestletalk vid on what happened at the show

Josh F

When there was 20 min left in the show and Roman started his entrance I was a bit excited to see what he had to say… 10 minutes later with the only words being said being acknowledge me! And hearing Seth’s stupid music I yelled out ohh F off. Then to have to listen to Seth do all the talking for what felt like forever rambling about stuff they are already beat to death . I do not care about Seth rollins, do not care about Seth and Roman story’s anymore, it’s 2026 why is this garbage still being forced on us at the expense of the young talent.

Ultroman

Will LA Knight become the bloodline’s next Sami Zayn?

Josh F

So don’t do a hell in the cell then. They book the show lol

Wheels

Couldn’t agree more

Josh F

Also just want to say as much as I’m looking forward to Oba finishing the Brock feud a Hell in the cell match really seems like a useless stipulation to add. It seems more like a marketing gimmick than a tool to blow off a blood feud especially when our last HIAC was Punk and Drew.

James Markin

I said it elsewhere. what was the point of Oba winning King of the Ring? You litterly wasted a month long tournament just to do the boring safe pick. Seth line about "we kicked the old guard out" is so tone deaf with the young guys he and Roman are now holding back after 14 years.

Rory Swaine

So what was the point of KOTR tournament. The women’s one is just a rematch of a final and the men’s winner isn’t going for a title shot.

JonoabboFE

The mens world title scene right now on RAW feels incredibly dry. Title's are at their best when it feels like everyone wants it, there is a list of guys desperate to become world champ, the belt becomes a coveted prize because they are desirable. Right now it feels like none of the characters really care at all about Roman's belt other than Seth. Like a bunch dudes from RAW entered KOTR but only one of them decided to ask for a match after Oba pulled out? Where was Bron? Dom? Penta? Hell, Je'von literally beat Seth in the first round. Why don't they want a shot?

Reece Hatfield

What was the point of KOTR? Just let Seth win the tournament if this is the direction you were going in. I think this makes the title seem unimportant or Oba seem stupid if he's willing to throw it away for a no steaks match with Lesnar. I was willing to give WWE a chance again after night of champions since Oba and Sami won, but this was bad.

Harry Burke

Oba Femi getting the Bron Breakker treatment I see. Absolute crap creative, and whats worse is it once again neuters a new star that, let's be honest, WWE sorely needs. Heck, even Seth Rollins mentioned in his promo with Roman that they're not getting any younger, so why the constant apprehension to strap a rocket to the next generation? Absolute idiocy.

Lewis Topping

Oba vs Brock in hell in a cell will be great but this booking is so damaging. Oba foregoing his title shot makes the tournament feel pointless and the titles unimportant. If Oba vs Brock 3 was always the plan, he didnt need to win or even be in KoTR. It should have been won by someone who they wanted to fight for a title.

Kevin Fleuriot

Seth's promo, while very good, is exactly pointing at the issue with WWE these past years. Because not only they're saying they're fine waiting to push the new generation, they're also fine waiting for the big main event stories (Cody vs Punk, Seth vs Roman, Sami as champ, Roman vs Punk, Cody vs Orton, Gunther vs Brock which probably won't happen). The company is basically 2-3 years late because we keep taking our time with actually getting to the point. I think Seth vs Roman and Brock vs Oba will be good matches but we should've been done with these a long time ago.

Wahab Fares

Sorry…surely…SURELY they’re not stupid enough to not give Oba a title shot at summerslam? Surely this is just an excuse for him to potentially lose the title match on night two…right? They can’t be this incompetent. Ps. Cole’s fake reactions during any Danhausen segment makes me physically sick.

Jack McEwen-Quy

Triple H watches Wrestletalk confirmed! He timed that Lyra promo perfectly for when Oli was on his honeymoon. I loved the no make up look for this promo, really added to her heel persona.

Chris

I dont know why they made Oba say he didnt want the title shot when they could've gone for the obvious story beat... Rock's music hits, Oba tells him "youre the true king of the ring and i want to give you my title shot" What an awful move, seems like they pivoted off seth winning KotR for the sake of a pivot but then didnt actually want to change summerslam plans. I wouldn't be surprised now if we do end up with Cody vs Punk for the other title now too

cc

Desperately need Oli back to review Lyra's promo. Was the scenery chewed? Can resident acting expert Dan weigh in with a review of her promo as if he were deliberating on giving her an Oscar, Emmy and/or Tony?

Morgan Leggett

I left a comment here when the brackets were announced that I don't trust WWE not to have Oba win KOTR and use it to challenge Brock. They never cease to find new levels of stupidity. Oba looks like an idiot and the titles look meaningless.

Cassius

They really had oba decide not to take his title match only to give us yet another SHIELD CHAIR lore match. They could’ve made oba be a true star but instead they’ll rather spin wheels. Why? They’re bad at booking and they don’t care.

Drew Vincent Curwood

Had the chance to do something new and interesting with several new upcoming young guys and in the space of one week we are straight back to the same old shit

Joe O'Leary

Whilst I didn't think he would win, LA Knight being in Roman Reigns's orbit and maybe getting an unsuccessful title shot would have been a decent way to keep him relevant and around the main event scene; but this business with Solo is pure vortex material...is Solo turning face or LA a heel? Are The Uso's heels now? There's no conviction to any of this, everyone is doing heel stuff but cutting face promos and it just feels like Creative fail at telling even the most basic of storylines now.

Andy R

New Patreon here - WWE currently reminds me of cooking an incredible meal 2 years ago and freezing a portion, 2 years on you reheat the same stuff again and again. Roman V Seth does not interest me in the slightest and neither does Brock V Oba again even if he wins i think this cools him down a bit.

Zach

I feel like I'm in the Vince era again with repeat matches:: when they announced LA Knight vs Jimmy Uso, I was like "didn't this match happen last week?" And it ended with solo spiking Jimmy.......AGAIN, but I guess it's ok because Jimmy got his win back? And didn't Jacob already go to smackdown to warn Solo not to get involved with the bloodline? Now it's happening again this Friday on smackdown? Also, jey just lost King of the ring but he's getting a title shot against zayn? Why? This booking just doesn't make sense and It's just disheartening at this point.

Heiko

Something interesting, but unlikely, occurred to me. The general impression has been Liv is holding on to the title until we can unpause the Vaquer fued, but, what if... What if Iyo wins as a way to get to Iyo vs Rhea at Crown Jewel? It obviously depends on Rhea's potential injury that I don't think we have any updates on. It won't happen, but it would be a cool story beat for Iyo and Rhea, plus if someone in Judgement day costs Liv we can maybe finally progress that nonsense.

Fin Brennan

Next week is in Chicago. I’m not saying a certain someone will insert themselves into the Roman/Seth storyline, but maybe 🤔

Brett A

Makes oba look very dumb. At least have Brock say that he will cost Oba the title. like have Brock say "You will never be champion while im still around". Giving Oba a reason to have to take brock out.

Dylan Clarke

Once again WWE decide the safest option rather than doing anything new or interesting. Delaying the meteoric rise of one of your most promising new stars in years just for MORE shield lore is fucking stupid yet not surprising based on how WWE has been these past few years.

Horatio

I remember in the Smackdown vs Raw 2010 video game in the story mode that your create a superstar wins the rumble but forgoes the title shot just to have a grudge match vs Vince at mania. I hated that story then and I hate it now. If I have a shot at the title, I'm taking it. Why would I give it up just to settle a score with somebody?

Justin Edelheit

Hi gents, I am going to invoke the spirit of oil Davis when I say this weeks episode of raw was infuriating, Oba forgoing his title shot to face Brock makes Oba look dumb and the stip in KOTR clearly states “winner gets a title shot at summerslam”. The solution was simple. Oba faces Brock on Night one and Roman on night 2 with Oba being protected in defeat to build to the title win at wm 43. Instead they threw a wrench into a simple story and now nothing makes sense. What’s the point of King of the Ring if you’re not going to follow your own stipulation. They had Bron cost Seth in the first round to finish a story that was already finished. Just have Seth win king of the ring and it’s Roman Vs Seth on night 1. Oba vs Brock can close night 2 with Brock retiring and the rocket being strapped to Oba for wm 43. Everything moved backwards as far as the rest of the show. The same finish from last week for LA Knight and the usos. Building to LA Knight And Solo Vs the USOs only for solo to turn on knight.

Alpha Panda

I think I may be moving from being a regular WWE viewer to more of a casual fan. I literally only keep Netflix for WWE, but the booking around KOTR, QOTR and the Owen Hart Tournament has really highlighted the kind of wrestling I enjoy most. I’ll still tune into WT for the updates, and I’m sure I’ll watch the bigger WWE shows when something genuinely grabs my attention, but there is only so much wrestling I can commit to. Sadly, WWE just is not hitting the mark for me right now. Thanks for everything you do at WT. I always enjoy hearing your thoughts on all of this. Also, shout-out to Dan it is always great to hear his opinions too!

Scott Adams

The Vision is so dead at this point, why should Maxine join? Her character work has been good lately, so good that joining a sinking ship Vision would be a demotion compared to an individual heel turn.

Chris Jones

“It’s ok, we have time to make Oba a champion!” Like seriously this will simmer till mania when he goes up against Roman who will win it off Cody/Punk/whoever

Scott Adams

Should Oba care more about world titles? Yes. Is being with Brock in a main event the worst spot? No. As long as he claims his title shot soon after Summerslam, it’s not a big issue to me.