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Don't Feed The Penguins (Patreon)

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2026-06-19 16:00:43
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2026-09

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WATCH: Why WWE Isn't Wrestling Anymore

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FJC Racing

I have NOT watched that video first Ollie 🤣

Dylan Campbell

Sorry boys I’ll go watch the other podcast first didn’t realise there was a strict order 😂

wayne Garbutt

Thanks for the heads up at the start I got the pateron before the YouTube notification

L.O.G

But I always go to patreon first, Oli. It's the uncensored, unforgiving and extreme version of wrestletalk. It's what we pay for

Trevor Starkey

As an American, I've long held the belief that the whole reason football isn't as big here as the rest of the world is precisely what Luke and Oli touch on: they haven't found a way to cram it with commercials. Basketball, baseball, and American football all have ample opportunities for ad breaks built in, so the TV networks can monetize those games. The continuous play nature of football just can't earn as much from ad breaks so none of our networks are interested in presenting the sport (save got big events like the World Cup).

TheSerraphim

As an excel nerd I really want to see these spreadsheets. #releasethedata

Tre Chestang

i haven't payed for a wwe show since the rumble that was the last one. i just pirate it now if i really wanna watch.

James Markin

a big example here is NFL Red zone. it's biggest selling point was "7 hour of commercial free football". a 7 hour program that shows you every Sunday afternoon game. when a game goes to ads they would switch to another game where someone might score. most you would get is a company logo pop up for a few seconds, or a company sponsoring when they were showing stats or replays. Last year ESPN bought NFL network and there's a 15-30 ad break every hour and they had to change the slogan to "7 hours of Redzone Football".

Isaac Glover

I watched the YouTube video first no big deal

Ilan Woll

I have given up on WWE since Mania

Ilan Woll

That’s a lot of it.

Findlay

This feels like a very American phenomenon that we find particularly jarring. It's happening a wee bit with the World Cup and these "hydration breaks" too. Any time we have to watch an American sport or live broadcast it feels like it takes forever and ever. American entertainment is always trying to sell us something just as we're getting comfortable enjoying what we're watching.

TheSerraphim

How do we get a part 2 from Luke looking at the rosters??

Findlay

Ah you basically say all of this in the pod lol. Well, good! Glad we agree!

Sunfire

i got this notification before the youtube notification and was insanely confused by it at first. thumbnail was hilarious to show my fiance who didn't have the context of the previous penguin conversation

gabe llanas

I stopped watching when Brock came back. I don't need to support those assholes. I support Wrestletalk instead lol

Mr. Samuel Scratch

you are correct, sir! they even drummed up a BS culture war about how "soccer ain't real sport"

Mr. Samuel Scratch

The '80s ruined both our countries in very similar-but-different ways. We're only now getting to the dregs of the fallout. To be clear: I absolutely get Patreon push notifications on my phone and don't get YouTube on there, so I definitely found this before the YouTube video.

L.O.G

Smart guy

Kyle Wiebelhaus

I did actually watch the YouTube video first, naturally! Also, as soon as WWE started the ESPN era I stopped watching it. The product isn't worth the cost of the ESPN subscription, and I don't even care to watch the things I have easy access too. It's best watched as a clip show on YouTube

Lawson Douvier

As I’ve aged, I’ve realized how insidious capitalism truly is. As an American, I can only speak to this country, but capitalism has just destroyed this country in so many ways. Still paying for AEW, though, because nothing matters, smile anyways.

Ryan Daniels

It’s not just the reduction of in ring action, it’s the non-in ring wrestling content such as video packages, backstage promos etc which have all been stripped out of the show, put on YouTube and replaced with ads which contributes heavily to the change in viewing experience. The build up to the match was just as important to the match itself but with that now gone and the in ring time reduced, the shows are in a terrible state. I would look at in ring (bell to bell or entrance to exit) non-in ring (entrances(?) backstage, cold open, commentators, celebrity spotting, in-ring promos) and non wrestling content (ads) as a percentage of runtime to get the full picture. And in the tune of Club, WWE’s new theme song should be - if you like a lot of adverts with your wrestling join our club!

FelKat

Lol. I actually did start watching this video first because I got the notification on patreon. I have notifications off for the whole of youtube because too many of the channels I follow have a habit of spamming a hundred videos a day. Especially after shorts become a thing.

Roy Wickiser

What a great surprise for my Friday. I'm hoping we get more of these videos.

Lily Petal

43:05 Too late Luke, we are already the old men and women yelling at clouds. I enjoyed this episode and the YT episode. I appreciated the information you looked up to come up with the percentages information. Happy Friday everyone!

Lily Petal

You absolutely nailed it!

NerfPablo

It’s enshittification season baby stock up on Penguin Bars

Dylan Dutch

There’s been an echo coming and going on this and the AEW review? I can’t be tripping

Brent

As someone who got back into watching the weekly shows after stopped watching in the mid 2000s, the one thing that amazed me from watching Raw/Smackdown is having a break when a wrestler is making their entrance to the ring. I clearly remember this wasn't a thing back then. WWE/TKO are trying to squeeze more ad breaks so they put them during entrances so the first wrestler has to stand around in the ring during it along any backstage stuff and the second wrestler doesn't get the full entrance either. The PLEs is the way to get uninterrupted entrances now not lack of ads.

Chris deaton

I legit started this. Heard you talk about something from the other video and thought oh guess I have to watch that first.

Hugh Quigley

I have been a life long wrestling fan which for my life has been just wwe from like 2004 on and some tna as it was free in the uk (see what will osprey says about tna) but i have stopped watching wwe and have bought myaew and have better time. Even with aew being to much wresting at time the streaming means i can stop and come back to it when i want that fix. It is such a sad state that wwe has taken steps to either through business (ads) or bad and repetitve storys (who gives a shit about the bloodline anymore just make these guys have character growth and not be one unit, and maybe stop the jey uso stuff) that they have burned any good graces i have will i keep up with it sure i have too its part of my life will i actively watch week wwe not not until they fix the mess they are in

Good Evening Gamers

The thing about no commercials in the UK during the hydration breaks is also down to OFCOM regulations. There is a maximum amount of adverts that are allowed in a 60 minute period. If they put adverts during the break they would have to lose some from the half time adverts

Joe

FIFA are trying with 'hydration breaks' at the men's World Cup to make quarters. The fans in the stadium boo the hell out of it.

Jared Rasmussen

Additionally, the community could help watch old shows and add to the breakdowns. Stopwatch: how long were entrances? How long were talking segments? How much time had an ad on the screen? (I’m looking at you, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, ruining a father/son blood feud)

mike wolfe

Being an older wrestling fan, someone who grew up watching NWA and WWF, this new PLE format is nearly unbearable. Ads during a paid show is sinful. While WWE is not going anywhere, TKO is actively turning fans away and some might never come back.

Boyle Club

The issue is, an American we still don't like all the advertisement in our sports but we aren't given any other option. These companies have fundamentally pilledged my love of a sport for their own monetary value and we have no other way around it. It's not fair for me to stop watching my favorite teams play just because I don't agree with excessive advertisement. We've been put in a lose/lose situation

Benjamin

44k views in 1 day or so. Just as an FYI. They were kinda on point on this

Alan Page

Loved both videos. By the way, when you were on about the poo/chocolate bar charts and you said you should've used a bar that can be split into pieces, I couldn't help but think toblerone was right there!

wrestletalk

LUKE: It's almost like YouTube is horrendously predictable.

Mike S.

You’re definitely on to something with the headcount portion of this - Vince always hated tag teams because he had to pay 4 people when he could be paying 2. Would be interesting to see the trend of that and where it really changed. The women’s tag division will definitely throw the averages off - they love a 6-8 woman match

Lawrence

Another issue when comparing it to other sports, you don't know who will win the football or basket ball. We already know 90% of the time who's going to win. We have to slog though the shows when we already know who's going to win so the in ring time becomes that much more important. Is this the worst overall wrestling product ever? It's surly up there.

Joe

I do wonder how long is left for house shows. At the Cardiff one recently it wasn't a sell out, plenty of seats left, even after dynamic pricing halved the cost (a cheaper seat was 166 before selling for 83). The card was mid level, the wrestlers did their best and put on a show. They were actually allowed to wrestle.