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Nick Kowal

Maybe Roman is the leader of 946? He organized this beat down of his family and didn't show up to help. He never has any desire to help out the family and has no care for the wellbeing of Jimmy and Jey. He went groveling to Solo Sikoa instead of stepping in himself.

Oisin

I guess overall this episode of raw was broadly fine. It was again prevalent that the Big Cass experiment has been firmly abandoned. The judgement day segment was dull, bordering on annoying and for some reason had a match with Roxanne pinning Chelsea Green which I can't help but feel will wind up inconsequential. And all we got from Oba Femi and Paul Heyman was the can being kicked farther down the road. However, a tremendous intercontinental title match, and a quite fun main event were the clear shining lights on this show which overall gets a 2.5 out of 5 in my book

CDE

Quite liked this episode. Pentas briefcase has pyro 10/10. no notes!

Mohammed Albanai

I'm just happy melo is going to be in the main event scene for like 2 months. War games here we come

Sir Fudds Pennyworth

Man Roman really doesn't care huh? He sent his cousins to deal with the 946 where they got handled beaten to a pulp with a crowbar, and I guess that's not enough to pull him out to save his family? Don't think I can take him seriously as a babyface ever now. Doesn't even care about his own family to be there when he needs him. This really reminds me of the days when Cena didn't care about anything but himself.

Vault-Tec Doormamu

Genuinely didn’t see Melo joining 946. Wargames is looking to be great this year. Can’t wait to see how they introduce Drew into joining 946 for one night only to take on the Bloodline.

Tyler Arthur

I don’t think it’ll be the JD triple threat at mania. Why? Because they can draw it out for so long. I think they’ll have Roxanne win the rumble and throw Raquel out during it. Then face liv at mania and Raquel will cost Liv the match. Then Liv faces Raquel at SS and then finally at the following mania we get the triple threat. It’s all about suuuper long stories.

Brent

I like the idea of Chelsea vs Liv at Crown Jewel but I terribly don't like in execution because WWE wants Liv to be the first 2 time winner of the Saudi Gaudy Belt. I want Chelsea to win but I just know Liv is going to win. Also Chelsea should had a great comeback when Liv said that Chelsea isn't a fighting champion since Liv didn't defend the belt for 3 months before being forced to defend it at Summerslam. Chad vs Fenix was great and shows how you protect a finisher since Fenix couldn't execute the Mexican Musclebuster on Chad since if he did use it on Chad, Fenix is the new IC champ. 946 are the pale imitations of the Death Riders except they don't have an entrance theme. I was surprised that midway to the match that it became an actual tag team match even though it was expected that the rules nearly don't exist. Carmelo Heyes joining the 946 was unexpected but he did plant the seed with his Twitter profile going all black. I'm glad that Heyes is getting this chance to breathe new life into his character. Luke, I'm so glad that you have selective deafness that you can't hear Joe T do commentary so you don't have hear lines like "Je'Von was so courageous for coming back to the match after that injury." while I'm just thinking, "Je'Von hijack an ambulance to get back to the arena. That's not being courageous, that's just criminal." Also Joe needs to stop reading from the Michael Cole playbook of every match is a classic.

Sean Steez

Monday Raw: REVENGE OF THE DORKS. Not only does the lack of star power grow more and more obvious every week, but creative seems hellbent as putting everyone “over” as dorks. Chad Gable; dork, Joe Tess; insufferable dork, Steph Vaquer; regretful dork, and Jey Uso; KING OF THE DORKS. This was a largely missable filler episode, that had three highlights: a great violent Bron Brekker spot, an interesting Oba/Heyman promo, AND Carmelo Hayes finally being utilized again. Thank god we got the return of the “pew pew “ guns. 1.5 Lukes outta 5.

Steven Hawley

So one of their 2-3 breakout stars of color gets stuck with Crime Time 2026, and Penta gets a custom briefcase which might as well say “I’ve got time” on it. That’s not beuno

NerfPablo

Rey Mysterio has been wrestling my entire life and the man still moves like he did when I watched him as a child. I liked that he pulled out his old moves to cut down giants against Big Cass and made me enjoy the match. Booyaka!

RedHood93

Melo joing the 946 not what I saw coming but I like it. I was sort of expecting LA Knight, but this is better. Really wish Roman even remotely cared about them or his family though, but we know he's not watching the product if he's not on it.. Also love that every week Chad wrestles he just goes: "Right, my opponent and I will just go steal the show then"

Brent

Roman can't save anyone if he's not there. If WWE doesn't announce Roman is going to be on an upcoming show, Roman's ass isn't going to on the show. Also if Roman was on the show, he still wouldn't save the Usos from the 946 since they are captains now and captains can win their own battles.

Findlay

Very surprised that they're building up Crown Jewel, there's no way that it can take place in Saudi in such a short space of time. Maybe they change one of the upcoming Aussie shows to be Crown Jewel idk. Anyway, thought the Melo swerve was class. Also btw congrats Luke on becoming a DAD again, can't hype up the baby enough imo

Finn

I’m not sure how I feel about melo joining the 946. It does give him something to do on tv but he does just feel like another body for the war games match and I don’t see much of a future for this group past the bloodline feud. For him to get organically over as a babyface and now just randomly added to a heel group feels like a mistake but at least it’s better than nothing. Also they really need to have these matches like gable vs fenix on ppv and given time. Would add much needed pace to usually slow shows.

Lily Petal

Revenge of the dorks, brilliant!

Lily Petal

Preach Steven preach!

The Foxy DM

The pacing is back to the rubbish if a few years ago. Example: Oba walks into gorilla, We then get an advert, we then get a full segment between JD and Hendry, then another set of adverts then Oba comes out. What, was he just sitting in gorilla waiting his turn! Its so distracting

Lily Petal

Raquel Rodriguez said she remembered a time when Iyo Sky actually meant something and I actually yelled ME TOO! Course I don't remember a time when Raquel meant anything so maybe don't say anything Big Sexy. Gable and Fenix BANGER!!! Nice to see Carmello back on tv since it means he is alive but fellow WT Paetreon member Steven Hawley said it best about Carmelo, he gets stuck with Crime Time 2026.

Vectron44

"Jey! Tell Roman that nobody is safe! When he can work it into his Google Calendar, of course. I mean, no need to rush him- we know he's a busy man..." So annoying that a potentially really impactful reveal is robbed of much oomph because Roman isn't there. What will probably happen is that they'll play this merry dance til nearer War Games when they can then insert Roman as 'the difference maker' rather than 'person who should have been there for his family from the start'.

James H.

After Mexico City I said that the great work from the luchadores would disappear back down the card and off TV. I am so happy to be wrong. That Chad and Fenix match was great.

Scott Adams

I’m just not into world champion vs world champion anymore. It’s not even because of the Saudi connection, I would just prefer the world champions having strong stories on their own brands (especially since the current prize for winning is a belt that never appears on TV again).

James H.

I came into the main event expecting to hate on the 40 year old men playing like that are in gangs, but I ended up enjoying the chaos. It felt like a throwback to the Attitude Era and it was the right call to have 946 stand tall. Not sure about Hayes in the group, but Bronco is going to be fun to watch.

Brett A

Oh no. Now we are getting Judgement day on Raw and Smackdown. Nobodies Safe

Brett A

Raw will always beat smackdown

Ryan Conger

Weird episode of Raw, but then again, that seems to be the trend for WWE’s now B-tier show. Pin your WWE Women’s Champion? That’s a bold strategy… This does a lot for Roxy, but it makes Chelsea look weak, which is exactly what she was trying to combat in her promo right before the match. That said, I think she beats Liv at Crown Jewel now. The 946/Bloodline feud is also really starting to drag. Sure, there were some big spots during the match, but we’ve reached the point where it feels like a square peg being forced into a round hole. It’s like creative looked around the room and said, “Who can we get as a fourth for 946?” Carmelo has never struck me as someone who fits the street-thug role, and he could’ve been used so much better as the high-energy, tactical wrestler he naturally is. This doesn’t feel like a story that’s building toward WarGames. It feels like creative is just finding a way to get us to the match

Lawson Douvier

I don’t watch WWE anymore, but I keep up through here. Do they have any Black faces? Wait, that sounds wrong. Black good guys or gals? I know Bianca is a face, but she’s been gone forever. What are the Street Profits now, or do they even exist anymore?

Sedin Magic15

I really thought Noami was gonna return in the main event and take out Jaida Parker. Carmelo Hayes, I didn't see coming. 3.5/5 show for me!

Brandon

very funny that the whole day before raw, people were reporting that Melo was leaving WWE

Brandon

Oba trick and j'von are the three main ones

Tomás Santos

Very Good episode Another tremendous Gable title defense and a suprisingly fun main event Also pentas presentation has been spetacular

Amomantra94

Ok so I’ve said this in the messages as well, but it bears repeating here. If tomorrow’s episode of WrestleTalk news doesn’t start with “Max Caster signs with TNA. Max Caster fired from TNA. My review of Monday Netflix Raw and more… I’m Luke Owen/Oli Davis and this is the WrestleTalk News” or something along those lines, I will be severely disappointed!

Brett A

The boys can now review both smackdown and raw cause they will both be about the judgment day

Awful Wrestling Opions

Solo - "Roman Reigns is not my tribal chief" Solo 30 seconds later - "That's between me and the tribal chief." Who writes this shit? The main event was awesome though. I feel like we really got somewhere with this angle. This is the way to close a show. I'm actually looking forward to watching Raw next week.

Horatio

They’re not seriously considering going to Saudi for Crown Jewel, right? That’s just borderline negligence

Chris deaton

Great episode. Love Melo being in 946 and a part of this main event scene where he should be. Also I think penta is gonna cash in in AAA on the premiere when they get the tv deal in the US. And I think his briefcase may have passed Damien Sandows as my favorite. His entrance was awesome with it

kyle McAllister

Every member of the bloodline got more airtime than Tiffany Stratton. Also, is it just me, or would it have been nice if the 946 could have gotten a single fucking win before needing to call in reinforcements? It’s been two months, and they needed interference and a non-finish in their first match. Fucking worthless booking.

Rhine Kemplin

Tess is getting so so bad. Constantly saying generic things like "he's handing out punishment!" "Can you believe what we're seeing?" Everything is a hyperbole and he mispeaks a lot as well. It has that embarrassing feeling where I hope no one comes in and sees me watching.

Peter Siddorn

So I guess now not even Smackdown women's division is safe from the Judgment Day vortex.

Thomas westhead

I truly believe we’re heading to a world in which WWE string along the vague idea that Oba still has/ or ever plans to use his no.1 contendership, all while periodically referencing Roman as he did after MITB. Oba maybe even features at Wargames pinning Roman. Subtly we see the manifestation of fear in Romans character from Oba’s eventual challenge. Oba is given the monster spot of the Royal Rumble, most eliminations & the win. A promo on Raw heeds a warning to both Champions to watch their backs and enjoy their titles while he allows it. (Roman now showing full and manic fear/ paranoia). But in a swerve bro, Oba turns up on smackdown and chooses the WWE championship to challenge at Wrestlemania. We face a weekend of fan backlash before Raw opens with a newly confident and cocky Roman Reigns. Proclaiming his top dog status, nobody dares challenge him, he decides who is worthy to challenge for his Championship etc.. When he is interrupted by a smirking Oba Femi who struts down, gets in Romans face and says.. ‘you didn’t think I had forgotten about you Roman?’ Oba goes on to explain he’s using his royal rumble win to face the WWE champion on night one of wrestlemania, but is also cashing in his king of the ring no.1 contendership… to challenge Roman in the main event of night 2. Wrestlemania ends with Oba Femi holding all the gold. Which will either cement him as the new tippy top guy, or ultimately destroy him as an over pushed/exposed Big Dog mark 2.

DerBilz99

I mean, is somebody safe? They were not clear enough...

Don

Trying to leave a comment since mine have been disappearing since mitb... This episode was a tale of 2 halves. The first half was highly skippable. Big Cass has become fodder for the cruiserweights and the Judgement Day segment reminded me that Stephanie Vaquer is probably the year's dumbest face. Creative did her 0 favors by interfering in the number 1 contender match and then wanting a triple threat. The 2nd half picked up massively with Gable and Fenix, but AAA still can't buy a win. Melo has risen from creative purgatory by joining 946. Hopefully that faction will be around and doing something after War Games when Super Roman goes after them, if he can even be bothered

MC Rainy

I’m conflicted about Melo joining the 946. I’m glad he’s back onscreen, and being placed in the main event story. But I’m scared he’s gonna just become one of the “thugs” and then get lost in the shuffle again—especially once War-games is over.

Figment

Finally.. they do something with Melo! My husband got spoiled on the ending and told me I wouldn't see it coming. I did not. Chelsea vs Liv is gonna be good. I just hope that Chelsea wins. We dont need Liv to be a 2 time Saudi winner. My ears couldn't survive that.

Harry Burke

If I'm ever elected to be prime minister, I am ordering an immediate seizure of and destruction of every single Funko Pop in existence. How WWE have managed to turn a shite joke into a weekly segment is some serious work.

Daniel James Baker

Decent episode, started off well with Penta and humble pie from je'von, liked the Bron interjection, seems like a nice feud going forward. Big cass L (snooze), against Rey Mysterio was alright but I just didn't care for it. Chelsea coming out to see Liv felt nice for crown jewel but a straight Roxanne win I still feel hit and miss on, title shot question probably going nowhere but nice if it did however temporary. Oba and Heyman kicking the can with a great promo, Oba denying Paul from snivelling over to be his wingman was great and a show of him being different from Brock and Roman. Solo and LA Knights segment has gotten me thinking after discussing Roman not being in the bloodline tag match with the 946, and with Solo + LA still being cool... Are we having LA Knight instead of Roman with the bloodline for wargames????? Also, we know Chad's boring but ayo, heatless banger W from him and Rey Fenix. Steph vs Becky at least feels like something for the two of them to do, nice to see that feud start. 946 vs Bloodline was pretty good fun, weird cut off half way through when solo was about to get a hot tag, wonder what happened there. Solo actually getting the hot tag was electric with the pew pew chants and the Samoan drop through the table beautiful. Jaida involvement got me excited for Naomi's return. Oh look! It's carmello hayes! Trick must have been that boring he sent Carmello snoozing over to the 946, good to see him get some use here instead with smackdowns bloated roster.

Daniel James Baker

But for Chelsea to say that would be to admit WWE are bad at booking and they don't care!

Khalid Tirawi

First and most important: Penta has a pyro in the bank briefcase, so automatically a 10/10. Anyhow, genuine question here, has Jaida Parker said a single other phrase besides "ain't nobody safe" since she first said it after running over Fatu? I truly do not believe she has. I actually have a recommendation as well, if you're open to it! It's on YouTube by Toonzies called modern day WWE. It kinda goes crazy at the end but still got some good laughs out of me. Jam that jam boys, congrats on to Luke, now a TWO TIME D-A-D.

Talk Nerdy UK

Nothing to do with RAW. I just think the firing of Max Caster makes him a) a legend and b) shows the stupidity of the TNA/TKO for having a list of subjects they don't want him to mention but clearly no one going over that with him or checking what he was going to do prior to him going on TV

Kevin Fleuriot

But what if the contract gets on fire ?

Kevin Fleuriot

Really shocked when Melo pulled the bandana, I thought it was Drew McIntyre. There's still a few weeks left to insert him into 946 for WarGames.

Eric#13

As nice as it is that Melo has something to do now, I have my issues with the way this played out. Why arent they winning this match? Yeah they had the upperhand at the end, but its their first match as a Faction. They should get the pin here, especially as they had an Interference for them. All this does, is show to me that all they are there for is to get beaten by the bloodline at the end of the feud and are not even geeting wins before that, nice way to create new Stars WWE.

Jack McEwen-Quy

Somebody told Paul Heyman it's Oscar Season and his Tsunami promo is up for best original screenplay. PS. Did nobody teach Solo Sikoa about continuity

V - true Long Island story

A pretty good episode of Raw! however their world champion doesn’t care so it kinda makes it hard for me to either

JJ Bittenbinder

The Bloodline got outnumbered, if only they had a cousin or a chief or something who could have been bothered to show up

RealDoubleJ

Is it wrong for me to hope this new Liv reign is just for her to Proceed With Caution? Or should I be rooting Naomi to be sucked into the Bloodline vortex instead of the JD vortex? Also, good for Melo. Hope he gets to shine on Raw

Joey Spade

Even the referee thinks the Bloodline/946 booking has been terrible. Poor guy literally asked if he was being punished! Then Adam Pierce gives him the same bullshit pep talk your boss would give you when he wants you to take on more responsibilities for the same pay.

CB

I was thinking watching the IC match that I would love to see a heel Fenix vs face Penta. But realised that would never happen as luchadors in wwe don’t get characters, they are just nice wrestlers, so they never get to be heel (aside from white fake lucadors). Am I forgetting anyone? Has there ever been a famous heel lucador in WWE?

Versek

Not related to RAW but after all the Max Caster stuff if he wasnt fired by TNA I would 100% expect TNA to sign him by the end of the week. Still not convinced they wont.

Vikrish-Ingi

Bron good spot. Oba good promo. Chad and Fenix banger match. Crimeline v Dorkline ft. Solo good violence and brilliant addition of Carmelo . What else happened honestly ive slept and its all gone . I do wonder who 946s 5th will be for wargames . Must be Drew the bloodline hunter .

Witty Comeback

Roman is probably my least favourite wrestler at the moment. Why does no one comment about how he hasn't changed at all? He doesn't care about his family, he treats them like insects and annoyances and steps over every challenger he faces like they don't matter at all. It would be okay if people like LA Knight were allowed to comment on these things but it feels like we're all just pretending this is a different Roman than 3 years ago. Sure he wins his matches on his own now but that should really be leveraged in terms of he's trying to change his legacy but he can never get past the fact that he himself is not different. He uses his family, he uses the bloodline, he uses WWE to get what he wants. That's his story but we have to pretend he's a face.

cc

946 didn't interfere in the Roman v Knight match because they're saving that as the screwy finish for the Saudi show to give Sami a win to make him a more insufferable chicken sh*t, and it'll finally make Roman have to take the 946 seriously, leading perfectly into War Games.

Chris Stewart-Hynes

I'm guessing Roxanne beat Chelsea because they're going to have Chelsea beat Liv at Crown Jewel. Then they can have the dynamic of Roxanne doing something Liv couldn't do as part of the build for their eventual 6 minute match at Wrestlemania 45

KFizzle4

Getting Pyro on the briefcase just SCREAMS "not cashing in until well after Mania"

Brent

You're exactly right about Roman. He's a heel in face clothing. He's exactly the reason why Raw is the Midcard show because all of the other main eventers are following his way without taking off of TV.

Brent

Eddie Guerrero is the best example of a heel luchador.

Brent

I rather Naomi be in the Judgment Day Vortex than the Bloodline Vortex. If there was a decision between the Bloodline Vortex or the Vision Vortex, it's the Bloodline Vortex all day.

RealDoubleJ

Oh I forgot about the Vision vortex. At least there's no Luchador/Americano vortex anymore or we may have adverse pressure on the wrestling space/time continuum with all these vortices

CB

True and there is Dom too, but what about masked luchadors? Feels like if they have the mask they cannot have any personality apart from “I am a fighter”.

cc

How do Brons spears work? He speared Jevon at MITB, apparently breaking his ribs. The spear was so bad Pearce and Aldis came out to check on him and got him an ambulance. Later in the match, Bron speared CM Punk and KO at the same time and they were out for 10 minutes, but it wasn't bad enough to warrant an ambulance to come out. Aldis and Pearce didn't give a rats ass Evans comes out tonight on Raw with the previously aforementioned broken ribs, and gets speared again, but that doesn't require an ambulance? I don't get it.

cc

In Liv's promo to Chelsea she specifically said, "The only thing remotely threatening about you WAS your friend Tiffany Stratton becoming Miss MITB and she went and injured herself, didn't she?" I know Tiff botched the ladder spot, but is Tiffany like, OUT out with an injury as a result? Or was Liv just making a snide remark about Tiffany botching a spot?

cc

Cass was likely re-hired at half price on a discount as a big dude whose job is to put over upcoming talent. No one ever promised a Big Cass "push".

cc

Drew spent some serious time in Oakland.

cc

I can't wait for Rhea to come back and then they ram Rhea vs Liv down our throats again for a match at Mania.

cc

I love how on the weekend that Michael Cole pointed out that no one has ever kicked out of the BFT, making Knight look like a bigger dork. Such an unnecessary comment.

Brent

It's the Tsunami index all over again.

cc

Penta is an example of WWE getting behind someone when they really put their mind to it. Since he's debuted, he's been given an insane pyro entrance, lasers in the ring, now a custom pyro briefcase. Can you imagine how powerful Austin Theory would've been if he had a MITB briefcase like Penta's? /s

cc

What makes less sense is that Bron speared Punk and KO through the barricade, which is meant to be a more vicious spot, right? Yet, he speared Jevon just on the outside (not through the barricade), and that warranted an ambulance? So, by this logic, barricade Bron spears are actually weaker than normal Bron spears.

cc

MITB winners often complain that they have to take the briefcase with them through airports. How is Penta explaining his suitcase to TSA?

Tyler Arthur

You’re so right I didn’t even think about Rhea coming back

Sir Fudds Pennyworth

Which I understand, but fundamentally disagree with the decision to not have him there. This goes back to the problem of Roman being the main character of Raw and it isn't around enough. You also hit the nail on the head. Even if he was there he still wouldn't do anything cause he doesn't care. He's got Sami and the title to worry about. Not his family

KidCutty

You can call em what you want but as a black man I see people of color in the main event scene. We already got Jevon, Trick, and Oba holding down the babyface main event scene. Aint nothing wrong with us having some bad guys holding down the fort too 🤷🏿‍♂️ ALSO...Lumping them in with Crime Time is just lazy 😑 AS IF Crime Time ever did any of this ish or made a dent in the main event scene as 946 did 😒

KidCutty

Its crazy how detailed you were for the stuff you hated and then zoomed past what you liked 😂 kinda the IWC in a nutshell aint it 😂 to each their own tho. Im just joking with ya. It was just something I noticed while reading your comment 🤣

“Big” Willy D

Boys! I know it’s difficult, because Joe Whatever is a terrible announcer, but you gotta pay attention to the commentary. Adam Pierce asked point blank if Oba Femi was willing to use his “Main Event” chance to fight Brock. Oba said something like “the title will be there when I want it, but I don’t want it while Brock is still out there” Oba needs to earn another title shot, he used up his one from KOTR.