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Sweets

That was an amazing episode. More of that would be just fine. Crazy call up was a shock

Yeetus Skeetus

The Cruz Montana reveal was cool, but the bigger point is Why Doesn't the John Cena belt spin!!!! the one chance they had and they blew it.

Chris deaton

Decent episode of Monday Night Background Noise. Wasn’t expecting Cruz to join 946

Matt Adams

This show stinks! The end segment was ridiculous! A carbon copy of two weeks ago, with the "Nexus vs team wwe" face off desperately waiting for the crowd to make it feel special, only for there to be nothing. The "big" reveal of Cruz Montana was fart in church worthy! They desperately were looking for NWO levels of chaos and violence with the beat down after and it was terrible! Also can't belive they pinned Chelsea AGAIN! And no OBA for the third week in a row. This show sucks!

Oisin

Overall, an interesting episode, but one that came with it's highs and lows. There was a fair amount of what was essentially admin, but a couple bright spots too, namely Ethan Page winning the IC title, and whilst Cruz Montana joining 946 is a bit out of the box, I'm quite interested to see how that goes

Michael Rivera Morales

I am in 2 minds of Cruz Montana debut.One hand good he debut on the biggest storyline in WWE but the lack of reaction he got in New york is worrysome.They might have put Carmelo and Cruz to not pin OTM and Royce keys

Andy R

Whilst its cool seeing Cruz join the 946 it does feel random., i still dont really understand the motive of the group either? Roman Reigns continues his gimmick of everything is beneath me and where the F is Oba Femi's next feud? The guy will be ice cold by the time he wins the belt

Graff

Decided to watch it for once for the John Cena segment. Turned it off when his first entrant wasn't 80's Turbo Jack 0/10 RAW

Mr. Grimes

Damn of they can't pull me back in. Sami Zayn alone has been the best thing in WWE and it's not even close, I want him to beat Roman at Crown Jewel so badly. As far as the Women's side of Crown Jewel is concerned, Chelsea is definetly beating Liv because otherwise, what are we doing? Ethan Page winning the Men's IC title after the longest 3 week feud of all time, hope this isn't done because Chad needs time off due to some sort of injury. Lastly, Cruz Montana joining the 946 seems random but I'd be lying of I said I wasn't intrigued or surpised by that choice. Raw hasn't been awful lately

Wheels

I could be wrong and probably am because this isn’t something I usually pay attention to, but are Jaida Parker and Jay Uso together? If so I think that could have been used to put a little intrigue into the bloodline storyline if im wrong than oh well. But 946 still feels like Roman’s monster of the month and I’m still struggling to get invested. Beginning the show with Roman verbally putting down Sami only to end the show with Sami physically putting Roman down was a nice touch.

Lily Petal

1. Sami: "no one remembers anything about the world champion's "sixth-of-12" match against Brock Lesnar." I yelled at my tv "Don't remind me damnit! 2. Gable and Page - good match. Sure give the belt to Page. 3. 6 womens' match - whatever. 4A. Cena - I can see you, still have no clue what you are talking about. 4B. Is that another fucking spinner belt? 4C. Cody - whatever. 4D. Rhodes Killer! Is that my Viper back? Where have you been? Don't leave me again! 5. 6 man match - whatever. 6. Bloodline/946/new member of 946/ another beat down - whatever. 7. Sami hit a downed Roman with the Helluva Kick. Great, so you are losing on Saturday. 2 1/2 hours and I had 2 moments that made me pop. Luke/Oli, what do you call a 0.5/5 rating.

Scott Adams

I don’t like it, but I’m used to wrestlers not constantly appearing and taking longer breaks than usual. However, Oba can’t afford to be doing that now. Other people who did this (Punk and Rollins this year) were established stars who had the fan support to make longer breaks work. Oba is still relatively new to weekly and casual fans, he’s liked, but it’s not guaranteed fan support yet. Any longer of a break for him and you’re risking his probable Royal Rumble win/KOTR title shot being less impactful than WWE thinks it will be. I know you guys and others listening (including me, but I respect his effort now) weren’t the biggest fans, but, when Cena was still working on becoming a top guy, he was on TV every week (minus only 1-2 weeks at a time for a given reason) building a connection with kids.

Don

Decent episode of Raw. A polar vortex occurred this weekend and is splitting in 2. I shall call them the Judgment Day and the Vision as both acts are ice cold. Gable and Page were my match of the night. Happy Page won something as he's underrated, so hopefully they'll give him a story which they didn't do with Chad. Cena Classic feels like a desperate attempt to challenge the C2, complete with title. Boring bloodline match with another screwy finish. Why did Cross Mountain join the 946? He's not from Oakland

Brett A

As a viewer of the main show. I watch Raw and Smackdown on the regular...Who in the blue hell is Cruz Montana? This is why I dont think this is a big play after Roman caused them to retreat. People tell me he is great on the mic, but this isnt a group that talks.

Horatio

I give WWE a lot of stick but one thing I will say is that I love everything they’re doing with Sami Zayn. So much so that I’d love to see him carry the belt through to Wrestlemania at least. He’s been the most interesting wrestler in WWE for months now and I don’t think it’s particularly close

Liam Rogers

We finally got a raw with a bit more meat on the bone this week. From Ethan Page winning the IC title (and hopefully putting an end to his feud with Chad), to John Cena giving us a lay of the lad for the John Cena Classic. But the main thing for me is Cruz Montana joining 946, Cruz is a solid talent and holds himself very well and will 100% fit in well with the group, along with hopefully giving the NXT roster a bit more room to breathe with how many guys we’re gunning for that title. I’d give this episode 4 Luke Laughs out of 5

Sean Steez

Even when they go for broke with a “big” episode, the largely fine show that is post-Summerslam Raw is just FILLER. Good opening promo between the champ’s to lead to their Saudi FILLER match, a BIG Cena announcement concerning his new FILLER tournament and belt, a filler beat down of Bayley by Jade and her FILLER baddies, and to cap it all off 946 gets another member that will be forgotten after their FILLER wargames match. And to make it all worse, we have to listen to the FILLER commentator that is Joe Tess. Again, largely average show: 2.9 out of 5.

Ryan Lahiff

NYC Marathon - Ryan Lahiff (4:47:27) def AEW's Darby Allin (5:34:34)

Walter Oswalt

OMG the best WWE AI could come up with is Cruz Montana

Dan J

Let’s hope that Wwe has learnt from past mistakes and actually books the 946 to beat the bloodline at war games. I’m not saying that the entirety of that faction are main event calibre but at least try to get one of them to feel like they could challenge for a world title at some point in their career and not ruin them like they did with the nexus.

RedHood93

Good episode of RAW. Sami and Roman promo was nice. The Gable/Ethan Page match was the best one of the night. And Cruz Montana joining 946 was unexpected in the best way. Jacob comes back next week and then after two/three months of the same angle over and over with one cool car spot in the middle we can finally have War Games! Also I wasn't sure where else to put this, but does anyone else hate Liv Morgan's finisher like not the name but the move itself?

Sedin Magic15

I remember when the Intercontinental Championship changing hands was a big deal, especially on an episode of Raw. This title change could not have been more predictable, and felt less important. My how that belt has fallen

Brent

Sami Zayn proves once again that he's the best character currently in WWE. He says the truth and when he said who Roman fought in WM38, it took me a bit to remember that it was Brock. I do love Sami took the insult of fighting Johnny Knoxville and made it as a badge of pride. While I still thinking that Roman will win on Saturday, Sami winning will make a more interesting storyline but WWE wants Roman to win the gaudy belt. Since appearing in Agent of Shadows, Ethan Paige wins the IC title. Expect Michael Hayes to fight Roman for the title in WM43 from his great performance in Agent of Shadows. Even though Liv will probably win on Saturday so she can proclaim herself as 2-time Crown Jewel winner, her pinning Chelsea tonight does improve Chelsea's odds of winning. Perth got robbed of the John Cena Classic because TKO needs to appease ESPN for their sagging ESPN Unlimited subs. Unless WWE is planning to expand Club WWE internationally, only people in the US can vote on the Cena Classic which is also a scam since you have to pay $100 to have the right to vote. I hope Bayley transfers to Smackdown so Lyra gets the heel push she deserves. Unless Drew joins the Bloodline, it looks like he won't be a part of Wargames as the merc 5th member since Cruz Montana is the 5th member of 946. I think 946 is trying to be the Death Riders but they didn't copy the soul of the Death Riders. Royce Keyes isn't Jon Moxley at all. There's no character to the 946 because WWE doesn't want them to give them time to build their characters except for attacking the Bloodline.

Brandon

holy shit, an actual good go home show where nearly every segment built towards a PPV match. when was the last time that happened from EITHER WWE or AEW. with the JC2 in Disney World we better get a Falls Count Anywhere match where two guys just beat each other up across the whole park.

Brandon

not officially but it is HIGHLY theorized

Acon22

That was a good shock and awe episode. I wasn’t expecting Page to win but i thought that was good match a Cruz joining 946 and beating the holy hell out of the Bloodline was a breath of fresh air. But I also wanted to share this because I’m seeing such a divide in our community. Did NXT cry when Grand Slam France aired on a Tuesday? No. Did they cry when AEW booked Ospreay vs Okada? No. So why the dafuq is there so much whining about WWE loading up NXT? 1. It’s a show being moved to Wednesday against their will because of the US midterm elections. 2. If you like AEW, you shouldn't be worried about Punk, Cena or Cody. Watch what you enjoy and let others do the same. It’s really not that difficult. Thanks JAM THAT JAM

James H.

Ethan Page is so fun to watch. I'm glad he won the title. Now we will see how they book it. And Bron got a win! That's number 7 for the year on tv/PLE.

Lily Petal

I hate her finisher.

Lily Petal

Darby may not have won but he would totally beat my time since I will never participate in a marathon. Ever! Unless I get to drive, then I am kicking his ass!

Brent

I wanted to talk about Oba Femi for a while now but he hasn't been on TV for 3 weeks now. I think it's safe to say that WWE has bungled the direction of Oba Femi since WM42. He really needed to challenge Roman for the belt at Summerslam and win it. The Brock detour was unnecessary. Since WWE wants to do Oba vs Roman at WM43, they can't really use Oba to fight the upper midcard in the meantime. They want Oba to be a monster but sacrificing the higher level talent isn't the way. WWE has written themselves in a corner with Oba and realized that they need to take him off TV but forgot a reason for it. After the match at Money in the Bank against Bronson Reed, the Vision should have beaten down on Oba while Reed does Tsunami after Tsunami after Tsunami so many times that Oba needs to recover for months. Oba returns as number 30 in the Rumble, wins the Rumble, and challenge Roman at WM43. Oba has been wrestling in the house show circuit against the Vision for months now.

Lex Sells Merch

Watched Raw with some friends. I haven’t seen a single episode in months. Only watched because my friends were up for it. Still a nothing show. Only highlight was Randy Orton cutting a hell of a promo (from outta nowhere)

CDE

I know the whole John Cena classic is basically pointless, but if you are going to get Cena to reveal the first name taking part, which could at least give that person some kudos and put eyes on them for the next few weeks. Why would you not pick someone in NXT or AAA, like Jack Cartwheel, Zaria or Wren Sinclair, and give them some momentum? Picking Cody for that moment felt like a missed opportunity to me.

Brandon

I like it when it's sold well but Chelsea has no fucking clue how to sell it. also its called the ObLIVian

Brandon

Cruz Montana used to be on AEW as Mike Santanna before leaving due to feeling underutilized. he then went to TNA where he became what was essentially their star and a multi time world champion before he left TNA to join NXT. this was his callup

Brent

The reason why Grand Slam France aired on a Tuesday was because TBS was airing a MLB playoff game on that Wednesday. Also I doubt Tony Khan booked Ospreay vs Okada due to NXT. It's a normal thing for AEW. At this point, AEW really doesn't care about WWE. They do their own thing while WWE clearly cares about counterprogramming AEW. They clearly want to beat AEW with NXT but they can't do it with just the NXT stars so they need to bring in Cena to announce more people for the Cena Classic and Punk getting a match for the NXT Championship just because. It's the intention is the problem. I don't care about NXT but people do enjoy it. At the same time, I should be able to criticize the intent of having your top stars guest starring on the developmental brand.

RedHood93

I know what it's called I love the name but like the move itself is just not very good imo

Don

I thought I recognized the face on the milk carton 😆

Derik Zoo

After seeing Triple H’s “point with the new champ” picture with Ethan Page, I’m convinced Hunter saw Oli and his impressive head of hair and thought, “my God. Now THAT’S a man. Is that what I’m missing?” Then went to Cena’s guy in ATL Oh the show? It was fine. As an Egomaniac, I’m thrilled for Ethan Page. I hope they give him a long reign and he doesn’t lose it to someone in 2 weeks. Knowing Cruz Montana’s real story, it’s cool to see him on Raw as a member of the 946. I’m worried the fall from grace after WAR GAMES for the whole group is going to be bad Nonetheless, great to see two guys who have bet on themselves in recent years make good.

Lily Petal

That was my Viper! I have missed him!

Lily Petal

Why wouldn't they do something that can elevate a younger talent? "in my best Oli/Luke impression" Because HHH is bad at booking and does not care." Or "in my best Luke /Oli impression" They have time."

Vectron44

If Roman loses at Crown Jewel you can have Sami crow on Raw that nobody on that roster- not Punk, not Orton, not Knight, not Rhodes, not Owens has ever walked in as champion to Roman and beat him. You could also have an irate and perhaps irrational Roman begin to take it out on his comrades, or perhaps make some bad decision that costs his side the match at War Games. Sami could also be a good first time feud for Oba when he eventually wins the title from Roman after Mania, as then he would have that legitimacy. Or you could just keep Roman calling everyone a hoe and then beat them clean- I mean it's practically Oscar Wilde repartee...

Peter Siddorn

As one of the few people who actually watches and enjoy NXT I'm happy for Cruz to make it to RAW but that said the NXT men's division did not need that hit.

Eric#13

The 946 with yet another cool angle that will lead to nothing, because what have Jaida Parker and Melo actually done since joining except becoming Bodies in Brawls and Backgrounds? Its a shame because with the Talent there you could have a really cool faction, but I guess WWE is gotta WWE it.

Harry Burke

I think that means you have a match for the TNT championship on Dynamite. Get your bags packed playa.

MoOnaMission

Chad Gables IC reign has been the best reign there's been in years in terms of match quality. This is what I want out of a mid-card belt. The stories haven't been out of this world, but the matches have propped up the show.

Wahab Fares

Quite incredible how big WWE’s roster is and they have nothing for Oba to do

Jamie Stidiford

Just a thought, isn't "Ain't Nobody safe" a double negative? Which would mean everyone is safe?

Ethan

Goddamn Sami’s such a good promo. He got me more hyped from that one segment than I have in a while. Wish Roman would’ve replied with more than just some buzzwords and calling him a hoe, but atleast he’s here

Rhine Kemplin

The crowd boo'd club wwe and then did a new day gimmick "who: within like 10 seconds and I thought "this is going great"

Daniel James Baker

An interesting start to Monday night raw! Great promo from Roman and Sami, but the greatest achievement Romans made in the last 5 years isn't losing the title to Cody? Are we sure about that Sami? Great title match and NEW INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPION! Excited to see where things go for Ethan Page now (despite netflix cutting his promo beforehand). Good cap to the bangers gables put on but his champ story will be as forgotten about like Bianca's. Good matches shit build up. Womens tag match was pretty fine, at least we weren't badly baited with a failed cash in. Still thinking they don't really back Chelsea as champion and Tiffy will just cash it on her because WWE like tiff more which is a shame 946 echo chamber. "nobody safe, safe safe safe....." John Cena classic is here! At last, some details, oh what a surprise the vote takes place on Club WWE, the boos that happened there cracked me up, nice to hear about double the raw on the 14th December. But will that mean double the creative (or lack there of) displayed. As far as Cody and randy go I'm eating up the promos, still no oba week after week At least we're moving the Needle with Bailey into a feud with Jade, but the rate Jade and win most of their matches on Smackdown I'm not expecting much other than a bailey loss there. (Yawn) When are we removing the Brons away from the vision? Another nothing promo from someone we don't want to hear it from. Overall mens tag was a better performed version of the same match from earlier. Yawn judgement day. How have Jade and co not received fines or suspensions but Bron breaker got them on mass along with Gunther for such backstage beat downs? All action, no consequences I guess. Really liking the 946 coming out to no music but sirens but it does feel the entrance is copying the death riders when I thought about it more. Also good seeing solo out there and I appreciate he got kidnapped but why is it not Roman facing Royce Keys?... At least we have our fifth man, guess that eliminated the Naomi Vs jaida angle?

KFizzle4

Instead of watching Raw , I went to see Street Fighter. Roman Reigns put over Joe as champion more than he put over Sami tonight. Spoiler Alert: he killed Joe with one move.

Jack McEwen-Quy

Watching 4-5 hours of Raw Episodes over one day...WWE called the play and ain't no podcaster safe

welly

So glad that the John Cena classic is already pushing a young upcoming star in… Cody Rhodes

Karl Williams

So who’s taking the pin at wargames, Montana or Melo? Overall a good show, just hope they keep taking 946 seriously once they lose to the bloodline.

Justin

I can’t believe my favorite song “Police Sirens and Dogs Barking” was used as the 946 entrance music. I look forward to saving up for Club WWE so I can give episodes like these 6 stars.

Jag

Decent episode of Raw. But is it me or does it show Royce(the leader) look weak as he was about to lose to Solo(sidekick no. 4) before we got the expected intereference. Was surprised that Cruz is part of the group. Good addition but I am really not convinced by Royce leading the group. I hope its a swerve for Jacob to turn on bloodline at Wargames and lead 946. Now as an Australian, i am abit worried about John Cena Invitational being the same time as the Wrestlepalooza weekend. Are the gonna avoid bringing some of the big names to keep them fresh for JC Invitational?? If Page lost he would have lost all credibility so happy he got the title. Does Bailey feuding with The Baddies mean that signed a new deal? What new stable will she get? Nxt call ups perhaps?

mike wolfe

I'm happy for Ethan Page. He plays the irritating heel very well and this should lead to some fun programs. Also glad to see Santana (I can't bring myself to call him anything else) finally on the main roster where he belongs. But, I hope the 946 don't NWO themselves by adding inconsequential members. This should be it.

G the B (Greg the Bastard)

Maybe I'm misremembering but wasnt the John Cena Classic about showcasing the brightest young talent? Good to see the new upstart Cody Rhodes get the first spot. Also a Masked Man in the main event spot. So original! Some decent in ring action overall but mostly kicking that can towards WarGames. Jam that jam!

Kevin Fleuriot

I'm always happy to see Santana involved in something major, but this screams of "we need 5 guys to be in this group for WarGames, let's have some guys from the hood". Melo is from Boston, Santana from NYC, yet they're called 946. And I'd love to be wrong, but I don't see this group doing anything major after WarGames. But hey at least it wasn't Drew McIntyre.

Darren Lloyd

HHH Really just leaning into the 946 being a stereotype stable, with police sirens being their only audio in the entrance and adding the Latin wrestler from NY

Shae

Santana as the 946 member was a good surprise. He's now the vet of the group that they needed and it wasn't predictable. However this is NOT the Go Home show I was expecting. We haven't built Page up to have him take the title from Chad. John Cena making Cody the 1st person is kind of backwards because i thought this was for upcoming talent. Also why tf is there 3 irritation day segments/matches? Im struggling with this episode cause it had substance but to what end? Chelsea loses again to get the win at crown jewel. Samy beating roman. This was 2/5 at best and that's being generous consideringall the filler in between. I think this was def squandered just to promote cm funk for wed against aew

Princess Laura

Maybe it's a personal thing, but the John Cena Championship belt looks so tacky. Given the theming, I don't think they could've done a different option, but I don't like seeing Cena's body shot on the belt, feels somewhat low rent despite all the glamor and how it shines.

Drew Vincent Curwood

946 have become nWo Wolfpac in a matter of weeks and even with the amount of time they have had to work out what the Cena Classic is going to be and it still feels unorganized

FlacoBoyDom

decent episode not great but not terrible. Neither was pretty surprised to see Cruz Montana as I was definitely expecting somebody else to be the new member. My biggest concern is that they’re doing all of this for 946 and I’m just hoping after war games they can still be relevant somehow someway imagine putting in all this work into a faction just to make them not relevant after war games. Although I’m happy Ethan page won the IC title as I know he can really do some damage with it. I am sad for gable 92 days and honestly, the rain wasn’t great but wasn’t terrible. I just don’t like how he just turned into the most generic Babyface ever liv penning Chelsea i guess means chelsea will win , happy they didn’t fake another cash in as they gets old quickly

FlacoBoyDom

also i can respect them trying to do the john cena classic yearly tournemant , i will admit having 2 raws in 1 night in 2 different locations is cool , however im not a fan of the fan voting , doesn’t that undermine a tournament layout because the loser of the final could still win it all ? doesnt make sense in my opinion . and hey didn’t cena say he would no longer wear the jorts and goofy tees and say he was only gonna wear suits ? john cena having another match confirmed !!!!!

Fin Brennan

I think they are going to do what they did with The Bloodline with The 946: add a crap tonne of members and then eventually release them when the storyline starts to become less interesting… The WarGames match should be good fun though 🤷‍♂️

mikefunnyboi

I want to underscore a note y’all have given on the last few shows: 946 need to explain their motives further, especially Carmelo and now Cruz Montana. With things like Melo and Montana’s 946 reveals, character motivation is what separates meaningful story developments from cheap pops. Yes, it’s cool that Montana is in this main event program, but that’s surface-level excitement. I want to care about WHY he’s here, what he’s fighting for. Maybe he’ll tell us at some point, but considering the fact that Melo has yet to do the same, I won’t hold my breath. Modern WWE is a paradox, where a bulk of TV screen time is spent on talking, while its stories remain remarkably thin.