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WWE Crown Jewel - Your Thoughts (Patreon)

Published:
2026-11-08 03:00:02
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2026-11

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LUKE: The best ones will be read out on the WrestleTalk Podcast

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The Best A.M.E (edited)

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2026-11-08 18:00 Just bought a Patreon subscription just so I could ask this. is WWE going to pay Oli royalties for their AI 100% taking Oli’s “what if the Mitb winner cashes in on two champions” idea with Tiffy. And also does everyone have to give Oli the Adam Corona treatment for not hearing him out?
2026-11-08 03:06 Just bought a Patreon subscription just so I could ask this. is WWE going to pay Oli royalties for their AI 100% taking Oli’s “what if the Mitb winner cashes in on two champions” idea with Tiffy. And also does everyone have to give Oli the Adam Corona treatment for not hearing him out? (Also I do realize it isn’t 100% as Oli debated, but it wasn’t 100% what Adam Corona predicted either 😅🤷🏾‍♂️)

Just bought a Patreon subscription just so I could ask this. is WWE going to pay Oli royalties for their AI 100% taking Oli’s “what if the Mitb winner cashes in on two champions” idea with Tiffy. And also does everyone have to give Oli the Adam Corona treatment for not hearing him out? (Also I do realize it isn’t 100% as Oli debated, but it wasn’t 100% what Adam Corona predicted either 😅🤷🏾‍♂️)

Liam Rogers

This show was the definition of double edged sword On one side you got the tag championships off the vision, and reintroducing Oba Femi into that picture for a PROPER match with Bron. Along with Roman v Sami being as good as their last match at chamber a number of years ago But on the other hand, Cody v Orton was only slightly better then the mania match they had and that’s no saying much, and I can guarantee Cody performing the punt won’t amount to anything. And the MITB cash in we all saw coming, which is a shot for shot repeat of tiffs last one. I honestly don’t know how to feel about this show at the end of the day

Sedin Magic15

Full disclosure..I skipped ahead when Tiffany Straton's music hit. This company is so fucking predictable, we all knew what was going to happen and I didn't want to see it. Chelsea deserved better, the belt deserved better, hell, even Tiffany deserved better than a copy and paste storyline from a few years ago! Disgraceful stuff! Other than that, 3/5 show

stephen costa

It was..... meh. Didnt need to watch it to know what was going to happen.. Chelsea won yea!!!!! Huzaar!!! Woopiedoo!!! Yea tiffs here to help defend Chelsea.. oh no the briefcase... oh no tiff is cashing in..... yawn... sami and roman was a good match despite also being predictable... still dont understand why the raw highlights are now a week later. ... what they want people to watch the dog awful stuff when it happens... are they thinking that will raise views... im getting close to just stopping with wwe...

TLC

So if Cody Rhodes’s super cutter is the same as a regular OG cutter from Jevon Evans does that mean Jevon’s finisher skill is higher then Cody’s?

Jamaal Ellison

So, Roman really couldn't just put Sami over at Crown Jewel; I'm so sick of Roman beating wrestlers, then showing respect as if it's just as good as a victory over Roman Reigns. And don't get me started on poor Chelsea Green; they really poured a cold bucket of water on this poor girl. They cheated her and made her look like a chump the entire time she was champion, being the underdog against Liv Morgan. Cody needs a break; maybe if he goes away for a while, we'll learn to miss him, as absence does make the heart grow fonder. Cody needs to come back retooled, rejuvenated, and with an entirely new persona because this is just not working for him.

Don

Forgettable PLE. Roman vs Sami was a decent match, but Roman's Reign of Terror continues with a clean win and the 946 not even showing up. I think the War Games match up will be 946 vs Usos, Solo, Jacob Fatu and Zilla Fatu. This way Roman can beat another person who is more popular clean in a singles match, maybe Kevin Owens or even Cody Rhodes. Cody doing a remorseful face after he hit the punt annoyed me. Makes me think he's not going to turn, so what was the point? If he doesn't then they should've done a Return of the Jedi type end where he's about to hit the punt, but then stops thereby not letting the dark side take over him. Another night, another loss by Bron Breakker even though he didn't take the pin. With how weak he looks, I don't want to watch him get squashed by Oba, or worse yet beating Oba. Rey Fenix joined WWE and can't even find a way to team with his brother. Thanks, Michael Cole, for telling me the MitB story is exactly as what happened 2 years ago between Tiff and Nia. Subtlety is definitely not his forte.

Figment

This show could have been an email. Best match was for the tag titles.

FlacoBoyDom

One of the most missable PLE’s i think in a long time . 4 match card makes it feel like a weekly tv episode rather than a PLE . Tag title match was my match of the night , last man standing match was fine , roman vs sami was fine . now my real issue is what a shame that took place with the booking of chelsea green . i i understand cashing in after that promo adds to tiffany’s heel heat , but let’s call a spade a spade here for a second , if it wasn’t for rhea getting injured chelsea would have never been world champion , & now that she’s lost i just don’t expect her to get the title back at all & to make her look the way they did after such a speech and moment is devastating in my opinion . they couldn’t even have her go back & fourth with liv , she got beat up 95% of the match and just won off of a cheeky roll up , none the less she won which was the right call and that promo she was cutting was supposed to be a deserved moment from someone who was never supposed ti be a top star , constantly puts people over , and has made everything put in front of her great , just to strip it away in that fashion , that is really a shame & lazy & predictable booking .

Jake Miller

Roman-Sami was good. Punk-KO was the best match of the weekend, and it wasn't even on Crown Jewel. Predictable and fine show, and it will be better than War Games

FlacoBoyDom

& also to clarify i’m not saying the cash in was bad or shouldn’t have happened , it just could have waited a bit so chelsea could really have a moment she deserved , rather than making her look like a joke this whole build up and in the match itself .

Chris deaton

Happy they at least gave Chelsea the win before making her lose it to Tiffany. Other than that it was just background noise and glad it seems everyone is safe

TekkAntonio

Randy vs Cody wasn't terrible but still underwhelming. The tag match was fun and a good transition. Not to mention breakker is finally free of the tag team title that he never needed. Happy Chelsea beat Liv but once Tiffany came out it was obvious she was going to cash in on Chelsea and not Liv. The Last match was a banger as expected. Cool moment after the match as well.

Untrusted 0ne

Besides the Tiffany cash in this felt like a bad house show or what it actually was....a contractual obligation Cody vs Randy was decent but this pay off felt insignificant given the amount of time that was put into the feud. I am super pumped for Jevon to finally get a championship, but you have one of the greatest tag teams in the world in the Lucha brothers and they STILL haven't put them together in WWE I think everyone saw the finish of the Liv and Chelsea match, boring, predicable and then the obvious money in the bank cash in. I know they probably weren't flying in a lot of talent to Saudi but Roman vs Sami felt like a prime way to get Sami a win via 946 interference. Decent match but I'm sick of Roman wins at this point. This felt like nothing happened. It was weird the commentators weren't there and it wasn't mentioned at all. HHH looks like he is trying to turn into Vince looking at his hair. All in all this was entirely skipable which is unfortunate because besides the politics of Saudi alot of the fans there seem to be into the product and what they get what ends up being a glorified house show. 2 out of 5 stars

JDuelz66

More boring and predictable than Royal Rumble 2022. 4 matches and 3 hours of ads.

Jason Smallenburg

I just don't understand why they did Chelsea Green so dirty. It's like they put the belt on her to punish her for getting over with the fans. They stripped away everything good about her, and then spent the whole match telling us what a pathetic loser she is. What a great way to build up a new star.

DennyDorko

The only thing I want from WWE right now is for Chelsea Green to win the Royal Rumble. OT: I think I figured out how the John Cena Tournament can fulfill what Cena said he wanted it to do, and for what we have seen so far to make sense. It isn't a tournament, but a series of exhibition matches. They have each match be rookie vs. established star. Since voting takes place behind the Club WWE paywall, there is no reason everyone wrestling has to be on the ballot. For example, Cody Rhodes wrestles Dick Hertz and Gunther wrestles Oliver Klozoff, but only Hertz and Klozoff are voting options on Club WWE. Iyo Sky wrestles Dixie Normus, but only Normus gets on the ballot. All (or most of) the matches are won by the established stars. Since the voting is paywalled and only open during the show, online blowback to voters only being able to vote for certain options will be minimized. Whoever gets the most votes (of just the rookies) wins the ugly Cena belt. No established star has an incentive to make their opponent look bad because they are winning their match, and Cena's promise that even someone who loses their match can win the event is kept. Doing it this way doesn't make the John Cena Classic a good idea, but this way it at least makes what they are doing make more sense.

Lily Petal

WWE/Vince/HHH hate when people get themselves over with the fans. Look at what they did with Chelsea's husband Zac Ryder. HHH made her a weak champion, made it clear she should never be champion, her win over Liv was weak, she gives a great speech about 13 years of grinding and she does deserve this and BAM Liv and JD attack, Tiffany "helps" Chelsea just to blindside her, and in a match that was literally 3 seconds long, the time to count the pin, Tiffany wins. This was deliberate booking by HHH.

XML_PNG

Ngl this was kinda my final straw with WWE as a whole now. For months I been feeling less mad and less happy about the product as 2026 still goes on. But this Pay per View was the one that broke my heart. 💔 while the main event and tag team match was fun. It doesn't really save it for me because of one Thing AND ONE THING only. The most predictable cash-in of Allllllllllllllllllllll time happened. (That liv Morgan chatphase was intended) I swear to god I never felt so out of it then ever before. And ima be honest it makes me sad. This cash in while it not be the Worst of all time, in my opinion is the most soulless, Nothing Burger, bland flavored, predictable garbage to ever grace my screen. This was the worst idea wwe have ever done and they should have let roxxain win the briefcase, But NOPE Lets run that Tiffany story back jey uso style! This PPV is a waste of my time and I feel nothing from it. Is bad, soulless and mid. if this is the route wwe wants to go creative wise with predictability like this........Im out, Im straight up done after that TV special obligation ESPN Saudi show and the WWE company as a whole for now on. No more wresteling for me, End of story.

Finlay Joseph

Considering they didn't fly most of the production team and commentators yet decided to have Oba, Raquel and Roxanne there for a total of 5 minutes on camera is criminal. LMS was a joke, why have Cody stop the count just to show he can "pull the trigger" when nothing will come of it. Women's match, less said the better. We knew Tiff would turn but why do it when Liv was flat out in the ring at the same? Have Tiff run down to save but JD escape and then cash in. Main event was as you'd expect, a lot of talking with a few good moments. Shocked to say the tag match was the best on the card, Considering Theory was a part of it. Did think Oba was done with the vision (as Oba said himself) but then had Luke's voice in my head saying "pushing the can down the road". Also loved how they referred to the position Bron was in this time last year as if they're not aware of how much they've ruined him since then. As Luke likes to say, "this could have been an email"

Lily Petal

Randy vs Cody = boring, plodding. Please let them be done. Penta and J'Von vs Vision = fun, bouncy, seeing Oba was cool, the win was cool, but please get Bron and Bron away from the Vision! Liv vs Chelsea = even in Saudi Arabia during serious safety concerns, the Judgement Day interfere! Please just end them already! Sami vs Roman = HHH/WWE/TKO just could not let Sami have this win? Roman couldn't take one loss? No, Roman calls Sami a real Uso. Whoopty fucking doo. Please hurry up to WM and get the damn belt off Roman because no one is beating him until Oba at WM and I am starting to wonder if it will even happen then!

Rhine Kemplin

Much like everyone, I hated the Tiffy time cash in. Liv was right there. Interesting writing would be two actual friends that are both champions, on the same show. There could be so many new interesring stories with that. Instead we get the usual boring thing we have had over and over again. This only works if Chelsea wins it back. Liv did ask her "who she beat to earn that title", hopefully foreshadowing her beating somone for that title. Also does Tifanny really come out and say, I wanted to cash in to win the crown jewel title as well? Terrible

Brett A

That might be the best mitb cash in of all time. Tiffy walked out with the Womens title, the big gold belt and the one ring. They are calling it the heist of the century.

Brett A

of course not. oba is beating roman

Jamaal Ellison

They could’ve had the 345s, or the 456s, or whatever they’re called, mess with the match and cost him the title.

James Paine

Pointless show but TKO got their money, and we all know that’s the most important thing…..

Dev King

At this point, I’ve already been done with this “it’s just what we do” company, as you guys coined, they just don’t care , so at that point why should I. i started trying to watch and ended up skipping through both crown jewel title matches, i know you guys say the stuff about Roxy winning MITB wasn’t happening but reports say she were, and with tiffy doing the predictable dumb bs, they shoulda just had roxy do it. On the bright side DPW legend Je’von won his first title at 22 years old. Thank you guys for existing so i can keep up with wwe without wanting to scratch my eyes out.

Tom Garrett

Fair warning - long comment incoming. For better or worse, I'm someone who can separate the personal failings of creatives or artists from their creations. So, even though I knew Vince McMahon and I don't share much when it comes to morality, I could happily watch the product (when it was good) and enjoy it. This was not a dilemma for me personally. I know some have another perspective, which is, of course, fine. But today was different. This was a scenario with objective danger to employees. So much so that the announcers and some of the production crew remained behind---I guess in the event that, if there were a drone strike, they could remain on-air in some capacity to fulfill their oh-so-important obligations to ESPN and Netflix. Thank God the worst didn't happen. But here's the key: I didn't watch the show live. Not because I had something else to do, or because I wasn't interested in the card. Rather, I didn't watch live because even a high-quality wrestling product isn't worth the risk of witnessing a foreseeable terrorist attack. Much less a very predictable wrestling product. I'm also an unapologetic capitalist. But there comes a point where the pursuit of profit is actually COUNTER-productive to long-term business goals, to say nothing of merely having a basic level of respect for your own employees - er, independent contractors. Today was that point for me. And I can't abide by that. Nice moment between Roman and Sami, though!

Captain Nick

Very predictable and pedestrian show. I feel like, if Sami won, He would’ve won more by winning than Roman would’ve lost by losing. But of course they went with Roman. I would say the tag title change was interesting but the belts themselves aren’t interesting enough to matter. Everybody saw the cash in coming from a mile away. And the last man standing match was boring. Nothing on here was worth the safety risk keeping the show on in my opinion.

Vectron44

I think Roman's reign is on the other extremity to Will's AEW reign. While Will has not really shown his history with his challengers and often not felt like the main character of week-to-week AEW TV, Roman is so steeped in Bloodline Lore that not only has he not ventured wrestle many opponents outside of his history, but it actively makes all the other new feuds feel trivial because no time or weight is given to them. Surely, there is, as a corporate box attending sell-out would say, a baby bear porridge option...

KidCutty

Wrestletalk....i think we have a negativity problem in the Patreon. People typing paragraphs of hate only to "reluctantly" admit that it was a good show in the end 😂 To each their own i guess 🤷🏿‍♂️ but anyway I had fun with this one 👍🏿 Special shoutout to that tag match also 🫡

Chris

I actually thought it was a pretty good show, Cody/Randy was as expected, boring until the end but the other 3 matches were fun. the cash in was cool and heel Tiffany is the best Tiffany; now to see what happens to Chelsea. Sami rejoining the bloodline story will be intreating and on a personal note I'm a big fan of watching Liv get way too into it and start fully scrapping her opponents, you can tell she's a New Jersy girl lol

Brent

Praise WWE for using recaps to fill time on this substandard PLE. The John Cena recap made me realize that part of the belt does spin. I imagine that shot of the belt was made since there were so many complaints about lack of spinner. I knew Roman would win but again Sami winning would meant more and Roman could absorb the loss easily. Could we just unified the tag team titles? If both tag team divisions devolved into Franken teams, then neither division deserves their own belts. I hope the Brons move on from the bros Vision. As for what happened to Chelsea, I'm torn about it. One part of me wish that she didn't get cashed in after winning against Liv. The other part realizes that WWE thought it would make a great viral moment and aren't wrong about that. I felt the pain of losing the title that Chelsea did. Tiffany needed a character change but I don't think this was the night to do it. Let Chelsea have her moment of glory for once instead of begrudgingly doing it because she got over on her own not the WWE machine got over on her own.

Peter Siddorn

Simple Question Over/Under Rhea beating Tiffany to win back the title in 3 months?

Rhine Kemplin

She didn't cash in on 2 champions tho, just one

Brent

Are we talking about when Rhea returns from injury or now because there isn't a time table for her return?

mike wolfe

OMG, they found Oba Femi! So let me get this straight. He is off TV three weeks with no explanation. Then they fly him out to Saudi Arabia for a meaningless, banal interference spot, for which he needed a full entrance, complete with smoke, dancing, and posturing. I almost hope they are covering up an injury because outside of that, the recent booking of Oba is astoundingly incompetent.

Jacob Smith

I would like to extend a special thank you to my mother, who had to drop in on my wife and I to borrow our shower as she had no hot water. This meant we could not watch Crown Jewel live as we planned, and while I was initially disappointed…my GODS was I ever glad to be able to skip through this PLE like it was work mandated e-learning. I think I even fell asleep for the last ten minutes of Sami and Roman, which I would call a shame if it felt like I missed anything. Saltiness aside, at least the tag titles have been rescued from the Vision Vortex (patent pending) and put on two people WWE actually books in matches, so hopefully there can be some kind of tag scene on RAW again, even if it is loaded with franken-teams (shush, let me huff some copium!)

CDE

This show was just all a bit…odd. All four matches were good but 3 of them had unsatisfying endings. The will Cody punt storyline was meaningless as we knew he would because he did it the other week against Corbin, so the ending fell flat. The women’s match was good and the promo was good but the cash in was beyond dreadful. Surely the point of doing so much copy and pasting from the Tiffany/Nia storyline was to swerve us at the end…or not, they are just that lazy. And am I meant to believe that Oba hates the vision that much that he was willing to risk his life and travel to a country that is being bombed just to help Je’von and penta? The cynic in me thinks they have put the tag titles on Penta in the hope it cools his momentum, so he can fail the cash in, as nothing in the past year has been better at killing momentum as those tag titles. Sami vs Roman was great, but not $50 million great.

Sean Steez

I had incredibly low expectations going in, and they failed to meet even those. They turned Chelsea Green into a walking identify crisis, so she could what exactly? Get a weak roll up and have Tiffy steal both her belts (even the filler oil belt)? Sammy doesn’t mind losing, because as Michael Cole graciously reminded us “Roman’s respect is all he wanted”. Cody and Randy was honestly a terrific LMS match, it’s a shame that program has been on smackdown, raw could have used it. Oh, and 946…I guess even in a place that’s literally under a level 3 travel advisory, Roman is in fact safe.

Findlay

WWE's greed knows no bounds

Brent

He's been wrestling in multi-man matches in house shows for months now.

Luke Holmes

When Sammy starts using one of Romans only 2 moves... sigh.

Reece Hatfield

Don't write off all of wrestling just because of WWE, there's so much out there that's actually good. AEW and NJPW are top quality products so give them a try if you haven't. You don't have to like them but they're 100% worth trying!

Brandon

its a 4 match card where 2 of the matches were good. that is the definition of an American school grading system 7/10 (a C for those who don't know that 70% is seen as middle of the road instead of 50% which is seen as a complete failure in the US)

Reece Hatfield

This could have been the greatest PPV of all time and it still wouldn't have been worth it. Let's not forget they risked the lives of all the crew and performers on this show and this is what they put out? I haven't been this genuinely upset with the company since Vince's time.

Vic Cutting

For me this ppv continues the streak of 4/10 shows WWE have been doing this year. The matches were all Fine besides the main event, which while good, had the wrong result and didn’t move forward anything. The Cody Randy feud has felt very stilted THR entire time, and I hope they get their momentum back later in the year, the tag title change was good

Ph7

Never tought I'd ever say this about a wrestling show, but the best part about this PLE is that everybody is still alive.

Tenkeep Crafts

Sami V Roman delivered to such a degree that, in the moment, I wasnt even that mad about Roman winning. I still think it's stupid that he won, I think it minimises smackdown, the WWE championship, and Sami, but I appreciate them giving Sami the visual pin, as now he can claim he won and was screwed

TroyWolf1990

Like Luke said on the prediction show this was a glorified house show while I enjoyed the tag match and Roman v Sami the other two matches fell flat. Oba coming out to even the odds while also reigniting his rivalry with Bron would have been better if Oba wasn't kept off tv for three weeks. The cash in was so predictable that even a blind person saw it coming from miles away. Tiffany does know that even though she won the Women's title doesn't mean she won Chelsea's Crown Jewel ring right. Overall this was a 2.5/5 show

Real One's GEORGIE TUFFS

What's your commissioner goal for crown jewel. Make a title change at Saudi with a cash in. Arh but I was building to a level 4 rivalry for survivor series, what's the bonus? Damn a huge amount of money to help get us to the end of the season. O well fuck it let's just squash this at a level 1 and get all the money to help us get to the end of the season. Ye, who gives a f about the fans, we getting money baby!!!

Tino RSA

Summerslam 1992 - 1h10min we were in match 6 Crown Jewel 2026 - 1h10min, in match 2. This is crazy, it was so boring. No way WWE would have got away with 4 matches on a traditional PPV

Neil Fallen

Let’s start with the obvious. This show shouldn’t have been put on here. The fact that it has gone off without any incident isn’t justification it’s luck. I might be one of the first to say this but WWE have cooled Oba’s momentum so much that he’s a spoiler on a tag match where the outcome was so predictable he didn’t need to be there. He added nothing and this is Oba Femi we are talking about. He didn’t need to stop Reed because Evans has already handled the “Vision” numbers game before without Penta. Them calling the three the future at the end of the match was just noise. If this had been a proper build Oba should have been squashing a Miz-esque performer in his own undefeated streak or two wrestlers but he added nothing because the Bronson spot didn’t mean anything for a match everyone assumes he has already finished and won.

Dylan

At least we can move on to Survivor Series now. We got through the filler, to get to the filler. Then we’ll have another 10 Raws before Rumble. I will be labelling this period of time between now and Oba winning the rumble, as “Big Phil”

Peter Siddorn

It's from now cause I predict her first match on TV/PLE post return she wins it back.

cc

Let me put my feelings in a way that would make sense to TKO and WWE: From a top-line monetization perspective, today’s Crown Jewel activation successfully captured sovereign subsidies, but exposed human capital to unnecessary cross-border operational risk for zero creative ROI. Deploying the Tiffany Stratton briefcase protocol for another quarter extracts residual value from fatigue-tested IP, while maintaining the "Roman Reigns Always Wins" paradigm prioritizes risk-averse asset protection over dynamic booking to safeguard baseline valuation metrics. Under current CCO leadership, the creative division has operationalized Aggressive Deflationary Storytelling (ADS), intentionally kicking deliverables down the road to create a 150-day deferred-action window until WrestleMania. Stakeholders can completely divest attention from programming for the next five months with zero risk of missing actual plot evolution.

Random Hero

Let's not forget Oli Davis said nearly A YEAR AGO that he was doing a WWE enshittification video and moved the goal line date several times. Then finally "end of September" he said... BOO THIS MAN. I wanna watch it! didn't know he was pulling a George R.R. Martin. Maybe by 2037. P.S. Raven V Big Show V Kane in the hardcore triple threat at WM X7 is the greatest match. *caw caw*

Random Hero

Imagine paying to comment and being wrong 😅

Homerstar

So they took Oba off of TV for 3 weeks. Just to put him back in the storyline he was already in. Didn’t Oba himself say that he was done with the Vision. They really have nothing else for him to do until Mania.

Daniel James Baker

So, we're still kicking the can down the road... This ppv might as well be a tax write off for TKO with all the substance of a blank check to wipe WWE's arse with. Most of the card felt like it had the energy of something high stakes with the crowd but cheering the wrong people for half of the time... Cody Vs Randy was a decent match, thank fuck we pulled the trigger on something at least, Cody has taken a year and a half to hit that punt (excluding last week with corbin). Tag match was fun, didn't expect Oba to show up at first but at soon as Bronson came out it was the only logical conclusion as to who would help swap the titles. Chelsea deserved so much more, not only did the match have a shit finish of "oops I slipped" but Tiffy cashing in on Chelsea was all kinds of crap with the predictable smell of a turd in the wind, most of the women's booking has been surmised as a monkey throwing it's own feces at a wall and watching it dribble. The mens match was a good end to the show however but I really feel like Roman shouldn't have hugged Sami at the end, that feels like a misstep for the trouble gone through so far but at least there wasn't a 946 distraction finish. I did see a fan sign directed at Santi Zap saying "here's a hot take, Saudi Arabia is one of the best crowds ever" now, while they are relatively electric, I don't think even they care about WWE's creative and just cheer for whoever.

Badseed

Poor Chelsea, first she has to look like a joke the entire match, then she wins on a fluke rollup. It didn't make her look strong, just lucky. And then she gets cashed in on, and tiffany steals not only the title she chashed in on but the saudi title as well, that shouldn't have been on the line. Seriously though, they really should have let her look strong in the back half of the match if this was the plan, but i guess they don't care about her. Rest of the show was broadly fine, but very skippable

The Black Arrow

The show started, the show went, the show ended It was a show

Robin of Loxley

Now that HHH pulled off a “successful” 4 card PLE, will we see a 3 card PLE for Survivor Series? Men’s war games, Women’s war games, and the US vs Mexico match? Or do you think they slide in Vision vs Frankenteam (Oba/Javon/Penta) match? PS, I’m glad to be able to return to the Patreon after 6 years away!

shadowanon

Imo, if tiffy didn’t cash in, nothing worth while would have happened in this show. While the matches were good they didn’t feel as good as they should (at least to me). Cody vs Randy should have had Cody do more desperate things to set up a possible heel turn (though that’s probably not going to happen). The tag title match felt so random you could have told me Evan’s and penta won it at a house show and I would believe you The crown jewel title matches were nothing, the main thing I’m confused about is that they would bring over Roxanne and Raquel but not the 946 and bloodline Honestly while I said the matches were alright the most notable thing is that nothing bad happened outside the show (that I’m aware of) and hopefully nothing bad happens when there on there way back. High 4/10 or low 5/10

Darren Lloyd

Need some sort of explanation of why commentary wasn’t necessary for travel but 6 people who didn’t have matches did. Roxanne, Raquel, Maxxine and Reed all ringside people, the latter essentially there to get beat up by Oba who was MIA for 3 weeks with no explanation Tiffany is just as egregious. In what Kayfabe reason is she on the plane with gear

MCAuthor

I enjoyed half of this show - I thought Cody and Orton defied my very low expectations and I enjoyed Sami and Roman. The Chelsea match did nothing for either participant. I get why you can't do the "showing you belong" angle with the Chelsea match because they were doing exactly that with Sami in the main event, but the alternative wasn't to present Chelsea as if she definitely couldn't hang and just got lucky.

ATallstalls

Honestly crown jewel was nothing cody randy was boring the tag match was fine but it still feels like a waste of obafemi to stick him with this vision stuff Chelsea and Liv had very little chemistry and the match was hindered as a result the cash in was both obvious and uninspired and finally Sami Roman was a good match best on the show but Roman winning and the 946 not getting involved was the wrong call it's insane to think of the danger that wwe put it's wrestler's to Go ahead with the show and this is what they give us

Leandro Shimura Barea

The show was... ok. What I really wanto to know is... Who Oli thinks will take over WWE Turbo, now that the Creeds are gone? Also, now that the Ass Index is over, why don't you guys do Dustin Rhodes? ...I mean, compare him to other 500 wrestlers... Remember he ask Twitter/X where he would fit in...

MartyBear

I think every "Will the babyface pull the trigger" or "The champion doesn't have confidence" storyline is terrible and always leads to them being less over