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Hey everyone,

I've been working on the second half of chapter 172, but I haven't quite finished the chapter yet. I've uploaded the next part, so if you want to jump straight to the end of the last section, just search for the # symbol.

I'll try to wrap up this battle over the next couple of days, and then I'll post the completed chapter as soon as it's finished.

For the American patrons, I hope you had a happy Thanksgiving.

Please let me know if you spot any typos.

Best wishes,

Tefler

Comments

Michael56Smith

--- YAY! ... and I hope your nap refreshed you, ... -- And we had a very nice Thanksgiving, ... thank you, ... ;-) ttfn

Unctadsk

Aaarrrgh.... Another part chapter... and surely spme place holder to follow leading to 11 chapter placeholders. Dude can you close all placeholders anytime in your future.

Hugo

172 to 184?

Jarrod Lombardo (he-him)

Typo "her" should be "here": “I’m done her, let’s move on to the next one,”

upyoursix

$72,000 American dollars worth of unwritten chapters right now. Just an FYI tef. Kinda fucked up.

Michael56Smith

11/30/2024, ... after 10pm (PST) Tef finally drops chapter #172, part 2, still incomplete, .... and by about 11pm (PST) he drops two additional Placeholders (#183 and #184), he just beat the EOM deadline, .... -- I bet he had to wait for the kids to go to sleep before he could write what he could before the deadline closed, .... So now we are waiting for the 3rd part (completion) to chapter #172, and we now have placeholders for chapters #173 through #184, ... Our lives are certainly interesting, ... --- Merry X-mas! ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

And Oh Yeah, part 2 was pretty good, ... ;-) ttfn

Philippe Berthon

See the message posted by Tef while posting 172 part1 end of october :« Here's the first part of chapter 172, which covers the lead up to the next battle. I'll work on the rest next week and hope to finish it soon. » Then, 4 weeks later, we got 172 part 2, 172 still not complete…! I call that, procrastination….

GH

I’ll be canceling my subscription after this rip off.

Fred Hunter

Tef it seems like Alita not Betrixa played succubus with Jehanna.

Jim Owens

Well this is it for me. I'm out. I will come back next summer and read the 2 or 3 chapters he will have done by then.

Paladin

I enjoy how Tefler copies and pastes the phrase “l’ll work on the rest next week and finish it soon” from the previous placeholder. See you next year for another partial chapter and another placeholder.

Johnkr

I wonder what is xar's psychic overhead is. How many less progenitors before it affects his strength. I think at some point Helene becomes the weapon to bring him down. She plucked souls from him.

AzureReader

If it took a month to write the first 1/3, another month to write the second 1/3… how long do you think it will take to write the last 1/3? Hint - it’s not a couple of days. I like this chapter though. Everyone is working together. Love the creative idea of locking down the barracks and armory. That should allow the team to really focus on the progenitor. As well as the story. Like how the progenitor is set up as a conceited asshole who put himself on the highest of pedestals. It’s a long way down and Tefler is great at portraying shock and fear.

Johnkr

How do his chapters compare lengthwise to Mike's house of horny monsters or something like that

Hojay

If someone stops contributing to Teffler now, will they still have access to chapters 173-184?

DigitalDreamer

This was a great addition to the series. Not that you will read my thoughts, Tefler, but if it adds anything -- I agree with so many others—you could have easily made 172.1 chapter 172 and 172.2 chapter 173. I appreciate your writing and your vision, but I think you make things so much harder for yourself. You could have been caught up by now had you just created reasonably broken-up smaller chapters. I might point out that, in a way, it makes it harder on your fans as well. Getting a couple of reasonably lengthen chapters a month would go a long way to repairing relations. Like I said, what is currently Chaoter 172 easily could be 172 and 173. The battle could be 174 and 175, with maybe 176 as an after-action thing. Don't stress about it, though. You just keep being you, and I will keep reading as you put it out there.

DigitalDreamer

Not to spam the comments, but I am curious. Unlike some, I don't think 172 Part 2 was a rip-off. I think it is a chapter by itself. I keep thinking Tefler screws himself by trying to make these long chapters which really should be multiple chapters. The battle with this new progenitor should encompass four or five chapters (even without milking it). If Tefler had been breaking up his work all along, he would have already wiped out his chapter deficit. I read a number of authors who provide excellent content frequently, but in smaller chapter lengths. So, while I understand readers' frustration, I do not share it in the same way. My frustration is that Tefler keeps hampering himself by trying to deliver high word-count chapters. This doesn't help his readers, and it definitely can't be good for his self-esteem (which is pretty essential for an author). I don't know if anyone has done an analysis by breaking up Tefler's content into reasonable chapter breaks over the past couple of years and determining how many chapters would have been delivered after resizing them accordingly. Has anyone broken this down?

Calvin Martin

A whole month to put out not even half a chapter. This is beyond ridiculous at this point.

Evan

It will be interesting to see if we get an update to finish Chapter 172 within the next couple of weeks, much less the next couple of days. Seeing when we get that will be an indication as to what else we might hope to see before the end of this year.

EroticPoetic

This chapter was worth the wait… another cliffhanger. Only thing is that it’s just an in-between filler chapter. Nothing much happens, although the stage is set for a showdown with the Progenitor with minimal Thrall involvement. I guess it remains to be seen whether John and the girls are up to battling a progenitor as ruthless as Larn’Kelnar who perhaps focuses on psychic abilities rather than melee combat. Gahl’Kalgor was ‘young’ - and therefore brash and like a violent teenager - by progenitor standards. Whereas Larn’Kelnar’s reign was protracted and apparently steeped in mental strategies and psychic combat tactics. He was severely weakened by his time under the shroud, however. This new Progenitor on the other hand hasn’t been directly involved in combat in 600 years. Has he become a master tactician? A master space battle strategist? Has he been honing his psychic abilities or has he become sedentary due to his lack of direct conflict? Any chance he thwarts John’s ambush and escapes to hopefully return after licking his wounds? That doesn’t really fit the Progenitor mold, but Tefler is known for flipping the script on its head at the last minute 😝. Hopefully we don’t have to wait another month or two to see how this battle ends.

Stephen Paynter

I love the latest installment. (I count installments not chapters, chapters are weird ontological entities which have no relevance to me and my reading experience - same for other authors and stories). Great tension as I am so invested in these characters and their trials and relationships.

Michael56Smith

--- Well yeah, Erotic Poetic, ... if Dana could make John multiple Shroud generators, .... then he could leave one in each new Empire, ... and Xat'aziuth would stay mostly clueless, ... -- And then Rachel along with maybe a few genius Maliri doctors all need to develop a way for John to 'claim / recruit' many, many more Wards, from these new Empires.... more Wards will mean more Eldritch Power, ... and all without a 'cum-vat'... -- We know that the Nymphs can turn one of John's full loads into a few thousand new wards, ... that's really good, but with multiple Empires, John needs several times that amount, ... he needs an Eldritch Elixir that potential wards can drink without John being around, .... that's manufactured / mass-produced to service millions, ... possibly billions, ... then he'd have the power to let him face off against Xar'aziuth, Mano un Mano, ... -- Although I do wonder what Tef's twist will be on this, ... ;-) ttfn

AzureReader

Is Edraele going to be awake for any of these progenitor battles?

yourstruly

How can I stop paying for further placeholders but not lose access to the patreon? I have paid for all the placeholders until 184, so i am owed 12 or so chapters but everytime i stop payment, i lose access to all the future chapters i already paid for. How can i stop getting scammed and also get the chapters i paid for, which gonna take 1.5 years at the current speed for 12 chapters. Someone genuinely help me please

Michael56Smith

DANG! ... 12/10/24, I had held out some small hope that, after this weekend, we might get the conclusion to chapter #172, .... (a part 3?), .... but it looks like Tef wants to include that with a chapter #173, or a part of it anyway, along with the completed #172, .... Poor Tef really can't seem to shake the 'dropping chapters at EOM' habit, .... that makes me sad, ... -- aww shucks, ... I'll bet he is having problems coming up with Dana's Awesome Christmas gifts, after all, she's the super-cool Grand Engineering Overlord, .... her presents have got to be good, ... :-( ttfn

RUSSELL H WRIGHT

Tefler really needs to find a way to refocus himself. At $6k per chapter I would be doing my best to drop at least two of those bad boys every month. I know writing is not always easy and finding ways to come up with new stuff but keep the cash cow going is difficult, but with hundreds of potential enemies, not to mention the lingering empire relations issues, one would think he has enough material for years yet.

Calvin Martin

2 weeks later… more than a couple days…. Still no finished chapter

MVFast

USA, November 14th, 2024, 18:00 Pacific Standard Time… … … …

Unctadsk

Dear M56S, how many days of December passed so far... and the outcome... I think Tefler should join his previous job which would inculcate some sense of responsibility in him and put out of almmonger mindset... What do you think?

MVFast

I don’t think it’s a lack of a sense of responsibility. Any long term illness can start a subtle sense of depression making it extremely difficult to get things done. Procrastination is an obvious symptom. Worse, on top of the actual issue is the frustration of knowing the problem is “easily” fixed by modern medicine. The quotes are because “easily” is a loaded term here. Recognizing the issue helps, but definitely doesn’t get you around the problem. You continue to plod through, struggling even if you know you’re dealing with depression. I’m making an assumption here, but before his medical problems, he had no trouble getting the story out.

2ndAndrocentric

Error early in part 2?: "...to attempt an ambush all the forces..." should be "... to attempt an ambush WITH all the forces ..."

Ricardo Miguel Pereira da Silva

To all fellow TSM readers out there, and Tefler, i hope you all spend as mutch quality time as you kan with your loved ones this holiday.

Tom Ray

To limit the number of times you can be charged per month before the end of the year to take care of that pesky second placeholder. Go to Membership -> Edit -> Payment Amount -> Set Monthly Limit and enter "1".

Michael56Smith

A Christmas gift chapter or two would be most welcome, .... come on Santa Tef, we've been good boys and girls this year, not too naughty, but we've been exceedingly nice, .... please come through for us, ... ty ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

Hey not so Santa Tef, were we not good enough for Christmas chapters, or was it you? ... although I hope that you are not too unhealthy, I'd really rather be thinking that you were too sick to write, instead of just getting too burned out, or worse too lazy to continue this epic tale, ... that would be really sad, .... and so, for now anyway, you are in my prayers, .... get well, and be happy, .... -- Now it is your turn to be good, and to do that you must really try to do those status updates, ... a promise is a promise, ... you can get help, if necessary, ,,, see ya in the future, .... ;-) ttfn

AzureReader

There are some odd gaps in explanation around the soul forge on the Invictus. It uses Crystal Alyssium, not a new material, but can make things as strong as Mael’s white metal. Crystal Alyssium gains its strength through reforming, but there is no mention of reforming when the soul forge is in play. John can reform 35x without the soul forge. If it was said somewhere the white soul forge allows 100x reformings that might explain a lot. But the implication is that it doesn’t reform. There is no mention of what it is doing. Or whether the new white metal that is as strong as Mael’s white metal is actually Mael’s white metal, or a new material that is as strong as it. There are hints that Dana’s invention, Crystal Alyssium, is something new, since they have mentioned that both black metal and Mael’s white metal were forged once. The impression given is that Crystal Alyssium is being forged once in the white soul forge. But single forged Crystal Alyssium is not as strong as 35x shaped Crystal Alyssium, which is not nearly as strong as Mael’s white metal. Way too much mystery here, especially given John is actively using the soul forge to make stuff… which implies the should know how it works. Also, we do know that because Mael’s white metal is stronger than black metal he was able to make improved Quantum Flux Cannons with added range and power, and I believe also advanced tacheon lances that hit harder than the black versions. What’s odd is that they are building other things now like power cores and shield generators. It has been stated that the strength of the metal of a power core, for example, is what limits the pressure and temperature of the fusion reaction. But nowhere does it suggest that the new devices with metal much stronger than black metal are more powerful. Did they forget they can now crank up those deivces and are merely running them at normal levels for a progenitor device? Finally, it’s odd that no one has thought to make armor suits with the white soul forge. John highly values protection for his girls and the parts of a suit are all smaller than the tiny white soul forge’s diameter. Obviously they haven’t had a lot of time but to not even mention the possibility of dramatically better armor, when they are fighting directly with multiple progenitors, suggests they haven’t thought of it. Which is the height of weird since it seems like just abut the most desirable thing to build given the combat they are actively engaged in.

EroticPoetic

Fingers crossed we’ll get 172/173 to kick off the New Year.