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Hey everyone,

I've been rereading the last 20 chapters and making lots of notes for the debrief scene in chapter 178. I wrote some of those chapters 2 years ago now, so I really needed the memory refresh!

I made a good start on the next chapter, which will include the return to Genthalas, and once everything is wrapped up there, it's time for a guided tour around the StarForge with Niskera.

I've written about 5k words so far, but I'll just wait and publish it all in one go as soon as the chapter is finished.

Best wishes,

Tefler

Comments

MVFast

Thanks for the update!

Jim Owens

Thanks Tefler. I suppose that will be next month. It's good to see you express that you have some interest in the story again. We understand, all we want is communication and for you to not make promises you can't keep. I'd rather you straight up say you won't have anything till next month than to suggest you'll have more in a few days.

Kensyi

Thank you for the update, please stop with the placeholders my dude, you are so far behind it isn't even funny anymore. And the fact you recognize that you wrote some of this fight over two years ago and we are just now getting to the debrief of what has only been a few days in story is freaking disrespectful of your supporters. I am not even mad anymore, I am just disappointed.

Garrett

Please stop the placeholders.

Joel Wyrick

Posted a placeholder for 20 chapters ahead while referencing the previous 20 chapters. Wow.

Jon Soderberg

Anymore placeholders and I'm cancelling my subscription. Enough is enough already...

Joe Marchese

How many more Patrons do you want to lose? Enough already.

MARK W TALBOT

While it is true that you owe us twenty chapters and put out less than one per month, I want to see where this story goes. That’s why I’m your patron. When you first had trouble working, I increased your subscription because I was worried about how you would survive in a state to finish this. I would prefer whole chapters over half chapters simply because it’s a more efficient use of my time. I was thinking of rereading from the beginning. Is there a link to an index of the final editions of the whole story?

Erotic Poetic

Can you do simple updates like this 1-3X per month? The goodwill you’ll receive will blow your mind! We’re honestly not as worried about the backlog as much as the lack of interaction. Keep up the good work and communication. We appreciate you Tefler - more than you probably realize.

raymond sisko

Thanks for the transparency Tefler.

TG

I believe the only way there wouldn't be additional placeholders is if Tefler posted all the backlogged chapters at once.

Dale

I found it better to start @ literotica.com

Hephaestus Hugh

That’s exciting! I’ve been wondering about the star forge for a long time. It will be a game changer but you always do it in a highly imaginative way.

MARK W TALBOT

I started reading this on Lit years ago. Were these the final revisions, though? I have the printed edition of the first chapters from Amazon and have to wonder if revisions continued after it was printed.

AzureReader

What was exciting about finishing ‘early’ was that the ubiquitous all nighter at the end of the month would have produced another 1/3 to 1/2 chapter. Waiting another 31 days for that half chapter is so disappointing. Or 30 days… we do have a one month streak of finishing a day early. For once can you please finish a chapter by the 15th.

Thomas Johnson

At least in the last chapter (176) we found out how Tom Walker escaped execution. I love his revenge on his family and Anna.

SEOJock

Love the story. I agree with some other comments. Skip the placeholders. It just seems to annoy people and doesn’t add anything. If you have an update, just call it that

Timtom

Took you 2 months to write one chapter. Precharged 2 chapters during that time. Tell me again how you plan to get caught up. He literally can't skip the placeholders because it would mean you going over half a year without pay. At this point I've lost interest in your half assed story.

AzureReader

I understand that some people like constant communications for social reasons, but what does 1-3x updates per month that basically say ‘I haven’t written anything because [fill in the blank excuse]’ do for anyone? I’d rather have him write words in the story instead of to us. Pretty clear he’s not going to do either until the last day of the month.

Michael56Smith

,... IMHO I see Tef's neglecting his revisions / reworks of previous chapters as the primary reason he has stopped publishing more books, there are just no chapters that he'll let be reprinted, ... :-( ttfn

Michael56Smith

Tef: I've written about 5k words so far, but I'll just wait and publish it all in one go as soon as the chapter is finished. -- I really hope that Tef surprises us all with a completed chapter #178 by mid-month or so, ... I agree that it is not likely, but it would be an awesome treat before (EOM) Halloween, ... --- Alas, our Tef is an EOM hardcase, .... Trick or Treat, .... ;-) ttfn

Newnotsure

I think I am as well, lost interest. I just could not get into the last chapter with chapters being split it loses the continuity of the storyline I don’t want to go back and read 10, 15,20. Chapters to get back into it. I also am not sure if I want to cancel just yet, I know he will never catch up, he is way to far behind to give us the great story he did in the start. I am very unimpressed with him at this time if he burnt out stop writing get a job take some time off see if you want to still write if not take to money we have given you and try to live with it.

stan kelley

yawn scam artist here guys he is stealing ur money good luck with this idiot

raymond sisko

It would be nice Tefler to publish a chapter mid month and at least a partial or full chapter at end of month. Would do a lot for your credibility and shows effort that would be appreciated and applauded.

Christopher Davis

Tefler. You are getting lots of advice. Not sure if you read it or just ignore your Patreon's. I have read lots of the comments, mostly 'please post more' 'quicker' and 'more often'. Many have tried to look at it from your position, not that I or they probably know your circumstance. I would like you to consider some of the circumstance of some of your Patreon's. I imagine I am not unique as one of your readers. So I am retired and getting on in years, having followed your story for some years now. Beginning to worder if it is worth hanging on, as it seams unlikely that you will finish this story in my lifetime. That demoralises me and makes it likely I will give up, as never getting any resolution of the story. I believe I read in some of your comments (from some time ago) that you no longer work, as you thought you could get sufficient income from writing. From that we all believe you need an income stream, which petreon can provide, and it has done so in the past. So some suggestions for you to consider - not that most have not been told to you before. You need to reduce the size of your chapters or you will never get back to having no placeholders. Being an ex accountant, numbers make it you will never recover if you stay at the size of chapter you are producing at the moment. Not unless you can re-vitalise yourself to producing at least 2 or 3 times what you are doing now. The other thing you need to do is increase your number of 'customers'. You are over 30 chapters ahead of what you have published on the free sites, add an occasional new chapter to them, with the petreon link in your pages it may well bring new readers (or even some of the ones who have left petreon in the past to return). It just costs you the time to update those free sites and will not impact otherwise, that will add additional income to you. You must surely stop any increase of placeholders. No new placeholders that do not match a competed chapter. If not I see the rest of your Patreon's continuing to leave one by one. Ideally you need 2 posted complete chapters per new placeholder. That will still take 18 months for the backlog to clear, but just a start to doing that will help bring your Patreon's back to you. When I was just 45 I was made redundant. I was with a large company and they employed an 'expert' to advise us on how to get a new job. The main advise was "You have a job, you are a salesman with one product to sell, yourself". So it as a re-statement of my own position that got me a new job. You need to do something similar. You need to tell yourself you have a job to do and you need to follow through with what needs to get that job done. You have a talent for writing this story. Do you have more stories to tell? If you do not finish this one, most people will not consider starting a new story of yours. But finish this and the future is then down to you to forge.

Joe Waldvogel

So once again another lie. Only released a finished chapter after 2 months, instead of more like he said, and another placeholder. So now we have prepaid for 21 chapters and growing. This is fraud at this point. Same old lies.

Joe Waldvogel

I would just like him to post 2 chapters a month. Until he catches up on placeholders. That will still take 2 years or more without any more placeholders. Anyone think that is going to happen? No, he is going to get further and further behind.

Shelton

Very well put.

Michael56Smith

Yeah Chris, just as you wrote, .... all that you stated has previously been said before, .... and you are very much right, Tef needs to improve his productivity and his communication skills, .... His writing of this story is amazing, ... However, Tef's situation at home, and how best he can better fix his work habits is something I can only guess at, .... Your good advice may or may not work well for him, .... my fingers are crossed for Tef to improve, but I have my doubts, .... ;-) ttfn

Johnboy

I'm really sorry to break it to you but " the Tefler" you all came to know died 1 and 1/2 years ago. His grand nephew found all the passwords and is stringing the already finished chapters along. As the pre finished ones are diminishing now, after almost 2 years, he will start an attempt to finish the story by writing it himself. This will be awkward at least. So all in all John did die in one of the battles with a progenitor. So sorry guys.

Michael56Smith

...Wow, Johnboy lives / reads in another AU than I do, .... interesting, ... -- And speaking of Alternare Universes. there are a number of pretty good AU fanfiction stories (incomplete of course), ... written by DuncanIdaho2014, ... This Fanfiction Author wrote most of his versions of TSM back when Tef stopped publishing any chapters for a large number of months, ... Enjoy, ... ;-) ttfn

Light Archon

Looking back since May we have been seeing a consistent 2 placeholders per chapter finished. The last 4 months seem to show 2 chapters with 4 placeholders vs the previous 1 chapter and 2 placeholders a month. Yes it's great the story is continuing, if only at a snails pace, but like another guy said, the placeholders need to stop. 22 chapters owed vs 8? last year is a very bad trend.

Nonconformist

It took 9 months to get the chapters I had been charged for as place holders after I dropped my membership , it was only 5. I figure if Tefler continues at his current pace it will take 4 or 5 years to catch up to the place holder count of chapters owed that have been paid for by patrons and that does not include the monthly charges for place holders in those 5 years. Those of you who have stayed and kept paying for place holders will never get caught up. It will take a drastic change in Teflers pace of writing to do that, I don't think that will EVER happen.

Michael56Smith

... Tef would need to reduce the size of his chapters and then drop 2 or 3 chapters each and every month, if he does this, he can be caught up in under two years, .... but will he do something like that? ... --- So, does this mean that we will have more than two years or more of our beloved TSM? ... ;-) ttfn

MVFast

Three plus?

Michael56Smith

he-he, .... smh, .... yeah, that can be what happens, .... sigh, .... ttfn

stan kelley

heres mike being a simp on his knees again tef is the biggest fraud and scam artiest in the world its time he passes on and lets a REAL writer take over i have writen stuff and posted stuff before it aint that hard all his so called issues r all fake he is scameing everyone of there money hes wat 20 to 30 chaps behind and mike being a simp sissy tool dont help 1 buck a chap plz y u think between here and lit he has lost most his fan base its cuz he is a scam artist the ppl on redidt 8000 strong r in process to sue him for being a fraud and yes they have laywers saying they will win i also know ppl with 2 jobs 3 kids and a wife who put out stuff longer then his chaps like 130 to 600 pages every 2 weeks sooooo yaaaaa

Michael56Smith

.... So sorry you are such a yutz Stan, ... but, ... it does take all kinds, ... ;-( ttfn

Myrnalin

Tefler doesnt owe you shit, I fail to see how so many fools think this is a business transaction

Jim Owens

Just sending out good mid (ish) month vibes to all the other TSM heads out there. Lets try something different this month. Sending out Positive Vibes to Tefler, hope he can pull something good out of the hat this month.

Michael56Smith

Oh yeah, I agree that's an awesome idea! ... the power of positive thinking, indeed, ...;-) ttfn

Jim Owens

Problem is most of us have been here for years when he posted regularly, and posted lots of epic chapters. These days he cant even finish a chapter in a month. Its more like he starts the chapter writing 2 days before the end of the month and ends up with a very mediocre chapter. He then posts up to 3 placeholders to milk the customer base. Thankfully he has dropped off of that and is only putting one placeholder out. He needs to go cold turkey on that and post more than half a chapter a month before he can win much good will out of people here. This last month he showed a glimmer of interest, so I am supporting him again in hopes he can find his muse and start getting back on the program again.

Erotic Poetic

I figured having to update us once a week or so would possibly inspire Tefler to continue writing and move the story forward.

GreyManley

If true, that would explain a lot. What is your source?

AzureReader

I’d piss on a spark plug if I thought it would get help. Everything has been tried… Tef seems immune to it all. Being positive might have to be its own reward… which it is.

Michael56Smith

Oh Well, it is mid-month now, and I think we are all thinking that Tef will not be heard from again until EOM, ... thou he could surprise us, with an update, ? ... -- so, come on with chapter #178, you said you had a good start, so that should mean a completed chapter soon (EOM), right? ... -- Pretty please Tef ole buddy, with sugar on top? ... ;-) ttfn

Big Dude

Not holding my breath.

Jim Owens

Hey Tef, please give us an update.

Jim lynch

Or just finish a chapter at all

Greg Hill

I believe in this possibility, and I've been saying it for quite a while now. So this wouldn't surprise me at all, although I would say he's already started trying to write it himself...

SEOJock

There is one sentence from a while back that makes me think Tom Walker is going to have an interesting tie in to a person in John Blake’s crew.

Christopher Davis

So it is going to be end of month again. Sob sob. Tef we all need our fix.

MVFast

Hello Tefler. Here’s an idea (you’ve probably already thought of). How about destruction ruins on singularity shells (or the other ordinance weapons) to penetrate progenitor ships? Yes, it’s best to capture them. However, I’m thinking of the effect of a single hit causing major damage might create shock and fear in any progenitor on the receiving end of such a weapon. Or perhaps imbuing them with Helen’s positive psychic energy? Hmmm. I guess I need to get some sleep. I might have mentioned this before.

ThunderBird Two

Don't those only work on psychic shields? Pretty sure the ships don't have psychic shields. Might be able to enhance their damage once they get through the shields

MVFast

Sorta… Remember, they drain psychic energy from thralls and infuse it into the ore to create the “metal” for their ships. Disrupting/removing the psychic bonds in the material would remove its strength.

ThunderBird Two

I think it's draining "life force", which is why it's black compared to Johns white .

MVFast

Sorta. We’ll need Tef to clarify. Remember, the first time John used it in a nearly unmodified form the result wasn’t black. Also, it’s implied draining psychic energy IS life force beyond a certain point. Or a difference could be giving (positive) versus taking (turning it negative). When thralls were used, it took their energy (psychic life force). John gave psychic energy. Perhaps that’s the defining point?

ThunderBird Two

The whole theme of the story is Love is stronger than fear/hate, Team work beats going it alone etc... So it could well be positive energy makes the white metal, and negative makes the black.

Greg Hill

Dude how do you find the time, to respond to every comment on the site. And why continue to do so for years now? What is it, and in it for you??? To continually defend his b.s....are you just another alter ego for him here, his working man, you, along with a few others who pop up strategically? It's very noticeable how johnny-on-the-spot you always are, you never miss a beat with your writing style, and the deflection attempts...how many of these shade characters do you patronizers make up for him...you've all got to be the same person because there is not enough money on this site now for him to actually split the pot and give you guys a profitable share too...I know it doesn't make a difference, but for curiosity's sake: if you're an independent person then what's in it for you?

Panamera

The progenitor ship armor is psychically enhanced because it's made in a soul forge that drains the psychic energy of thralls in order to strengthen the black metal.

MVFast

Correct. Therefore, runic penetrators should have an effect.

ThunderBird Two

Psychically enhanced, or just psychically shaped?

MVFast

Definitely enhanced. Remember, neither Dana, tools, nor those from the Ashanath could scan it. If it was “just” shaped, it would still be normal matter. This stuff isn’t.

Michael56Smith

... For the past few years Tef has solely relied on his Placeholders to get any monetary reimbursement, his monthly income, and yet his currently posted TSM chapters, complete or partials, even though they were actually paid for months earlier, also drop at EOM, .... Although he could freely drop either of them at ANYTIME, not just at the EOM, ... I think he just drops his story then to soften the blow from new Placeholder payments, ... So much pain and aggravation attached, ... phew! -- Well, we are presently getting our yummy story fixes each month, and we are supporting, patronizing, our Tef, .... we are just owed over 20 chapters, .... so, Tef has Job Security? ... ;-) ttfn

Gubment Cheez

Wrong. He drops stories at the end of the month to ensure only his piggy bank has access to them, even though you've already paid for the content, you don't get it unless you pay for the next level in the scheme. It's a perpetual deposit scheme that only works because people like you have bitten into it. To Soften the Blow. Pththth. If you can't be honest about what's actually going on you're just a sockpuppet for the con. Quite frankly it doesn't matter what you think about why he has chosen to conduct his business this way. it's a fraud by conduct, enabled by Patreon because it's literally not worth the cost to pay someone the time to investigate the number of undeliverables Tiefler has issued. At this point Tiefler has admitted he has 2 years of chapters unreleased. People who paid for his content and left because of one last excuse. they will never see it. They have been scammed.

Pat White

Im at the point now. To just stop my sub. We're about 2 years behind. I get that life happens. But shit. Money is Money. You can't live up to what you promised maybe just stop all together. Almost 2 months since the t Last chapter.. ugh

Michael56Smith

..Nooooo, ... you can't stop this wonderful story, .... -- And say that good ole Tef produces / drops 2 complete chapters each month for the next couple of years, then he'd be all caught up and possibly he'd be at the end of the TSM storyline, ... smh -- Sigh, ... it could happen, .... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

... but we already paid for those chapters, ... he gets nothing for them, now, ... and not for the next few years, ... they are all paid for in advance, many months ago, ... sorry, ... that is not what is going on in Tef's noggin, ... :-) ttfn

AzureReader

Gubment Cheez is more right on this. Imagine if you order something online and shipping was offered for only $1, but when the item arrived the delivery guy says he won’t hand you your package unless you pre-pay for the next two $1 deliveries. So you pay the guy an additional $2 at the door and he hands you your package. And you don’t feel too bad because while you actually paid $3 for shipping you at least get your next two orders delivered and won’t have to pay an additional penny for them. Except on the next order, which uses one of the prepaid deliveries, the guy at the door demands another pre-payment for an additional two delivery fees. So you hand the guy another $2 because you have no choice if you want your package… and so on. If you always must pay $2 for every $1 delivery at what point do you realize the cost of shipping is $2 and the shipper is false advertising $1 shipping. Tefler’s scheme is even more extreme. He delivers an average of 1/2 chapter a month but only delivers it if you pre-pay for 2 full chapters. So you pay 4x more than the asking price and hold IOUs that can only be cashed in if you keep paying 4x more than you agreed to pay. This will continue until Tefler stops writing. At that point you will be the guy shouting from the mountain tops that Tefler will never receive an additional penny for those IOU chapters. While technically true, it’s the most hollow of truths since those IOUs are worthless and you have been taken for whatever you paid for them. A honest assessment would be to decide if each chapter Tefler delivers is worth $4. By itself it’s not a lot of money. As a 20 chapter book though… I wouldn’t pay $80 for a space fantasy book even if was hard cover, leather bound, gold gilded, and in a slip case. Definitely not if it wasn’t any of those things because it’s a digital book. But a little at a time, for good writing and a story I like? I guess I’m willing to massively overpay.

Jim Owens

well its that time of the month again. 1 more day. What will he do this time? Post something a day early tonight? Or back to the normal 1am on the 1st.

rich ed

Reckon half chapter with a placeholder

Hendrix Morton

Yeah, and monkeys could fly out of my butt....

Michael56Smith

...what?!! you don't get any flying pigs? ,,, ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

... you don't need to do business with that pay on delivery package guy, nor for Tef's Patreon chapters, .... so, you could take your bat and ball, and go home, ... -- I agree that Tef's chapters are worth it, ... ;-) ttfn

GreyManley

You're dreaming, Michael

Michael56Smith

Happy Halloween! ... 10/31/25 -- will we get tricked or treated? ... --- I want at least one completed TSM chapter, please, .... -- Genthalas - Edraele and Luna, .... then off to see Niskera and tour the Star Forges, ...;-) ttfn

Evan

Happy Halloween! We hope for treats, but expect tricks. In that way, we avoid unexpected disappointment.

Michael56Smith

Humm, maybe, .... Tef is running a tad bit late due to the need to answer the door for all the Trick or Treaters, ... maybe? ... --- Happy Halloween boys and girls, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

... for Tef to get Patreon funds (payday) he must drop placeholder #199 before Halloween is over (Pacific Standard time), ... TSM chapters, he can post at any time actually, ... ;-) ttfn

Pablo Costa

Hey Telf, TSM is the best series I have ever read. I as well as others would appreciate half chapters over waiting for finished material. It is difficult to wait and the promises are not reliable. Please just do the work and update often. I pray for your family for health going forward.