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Hey everyone,

I'm currently still working on the current chapter, but it's not quite finished yet. I hope to wrap it up in the next few days.

I won't be pre-charging chapters any more, so you don't need to worry about any Patreon charges until I've caught up on the chapters I owe you.

Hope you're all well,

Tefler

Comments

Richard

Buddy, go ahead and charge Haters gonna hate Honestly it'll be funny to watch them rage in the meanwhile Totally worth the $2

Richard

I'm happy to see you're not dead btw

em110905

Thanks for the info - keep well...

Mapstar

Man WE Hope that you are well…

Whoriar

I didn't mind the precharge.. I'm happy to support you

Ricardo Miguel Pereira da Silva

Reasuring for some for sure. Personaly all.i care is that my favourite author gets well from his health issues and the issuing of chapters i consider always a treat. Prepaid or otherwise. Best wishes

stephen mincher

I would rather a precharge than rushing the chapters.

Jonathan Seeley

I think feeling forced to do tasks to get out from under an obligation can really suck the joy out of creative endeavours. I personally don't mind the precharges and the wait, but there seems to be a vocal minority that does. I feel bad that it's come to this, because it can't be good for quality of life and of the work. At least know that there are some, maybe most, that understand and aren't making it a big deal. Be well.

Aodhan Byrne

Keep up the good work! Health comes first!

Bp Hlpt

I hope your health improves soon, Tefler.

Mike Saxion

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to the next installment.

Rayce Royal

Mr. Teller, you have created a Sci-fi masterpiece that spans the known universe and beyond. It is so good that it has become addictive. I believe this is the reason for the vocal minority who complain. They are not mad about precharges. They are jonesing for the next fix. Please take that as the compliment it is and continue to produce your addictive story. We love you man.

Who Me

Be well my #2 all time favorite author!

Humens

Glad to hear from you Tef, get well soon! We will be all (almost all - stupid haters) be glad to read more when you are able. Take your time so you can release the fine stories we have 'all' enjoyed.

Kensyi

Normally I really don't mind the recharge when it is only a month behind, but at this point I feel like we need to catch up with what is owed.

Robert Barr

You do what you need, good sir. Couple months ago I increased my pledge per story in order to support you MORE. So do what you need, take care of yourself and yours. Those who love and support you and your work will be right here too.

Cignal

Most of us didn't mind the pre charge. What is more important to most of us is how are you doing?

Hephaestus Hugh

Welcome back. I hope you are feeling better and will remain so.

Tefler

I'm actually in good health at the moment. Unfortunately, my wife went on a camping trip with the boys, then tripped over a guy-rope and broke her arm. So she hasn't been able to drive all month, and is struggling to do domestic chores as well, because her arm is in a cast. That's meant I've been running around like a blue-arsed fly to ferry the kids around for all their summer activities. In a couple of weeks they're both back at school, which would be a relief, but I'm stuck doing both school runs!

Emma B

Don't believe in such crap until I can verify on my own. As it is, can't hope for anything new cause tefler owes about 4-5 chapters. I don't think he will wait for so long. We are going to be pre charged..... 😁

AShi

Every author I've liked and waited for this much has died before finishing... so, as you are younger than them (well, considering your use of computers) i expect you to not die before the universe is saved

John Pittsenbargar

Tefler, so glad to know you are still above ground !! Was worried about your outcome. I always look forward to each and every chapter you write for us. Best wishes for your good health a long, long story. John

Evilebob

Perfect. Not even remotely perturbed by the lack of progress. Thank you for not placeholdering.

Arcimbolo

Hi Tefler, Thanks for the update. Eager to read n'est chapters. I wish you the best.

Lazy8244

Love the update, but never a problem.

Laurel Hodghead

Glad you're doing well. I don't mind the charges. I'm looking forward to more chapters.

Douglas J Panepinto

Hope ur doing well, I lost track of the chapter precharging to be honest, however your work speaks for itself and is magnificent so I just keep it running, i look forward to many more chapters, even organized all chapters into books for myself after your series stopped with new amazon releases. Will buy ur books still when you put them up of course, i just keep all your books saved on my phone for my reading pleasure 😁

Mark Strom

We are jonesing for our fix, gimmegimmegimme daddy I need this ill...

Justin Goodman

I'm glad to hear that we are done being precharged. I hope that the writing comes easy for you so we can get caught up and back to the proper schedule paying for chapters that are completed.

Paul Johnson

Aye. Get thysen fit, Tefler lad 👍🤞

Jason

I'm more about quality over quality anyways. Feel free to take your time as far as I'm concerned.

Tom Ray

Stay Healthy and keep the creative juices flowing...

Nicholas

After reading the other comments, I stand with the community: you matter more than the money. Yes, we want the story, but we support YOU first! Hope all is well, and don't stress about things. I, for one, am not going anywhere. 😊

Unresolved Plots

Thanks for the update Tefler. Glad to hear you are feeling ok. Hope things get better soon for you and your family.

Michael56Smith

.40: Okay guys, no more placeholders, .... so no further complaining, right? ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.44: Alright, so I am disappointed that I won't be able to read the 2nd half of chapter #164 today, ... but yesterday I had a new ADT chapter, and today I do have a new BurntRedstone to read, so today is a very good day, ... ;-) ttfn

Mike Knop

Hope you are doing better

AzureReader

Thanks for the update. Your writing speed is an existential gauge of your overall condition. Two months to write a half a chapter isn’t going to be a viable line of work. I’d piss on a spark plug if it would help get you back in fighting form. In lieu of that I’m sending you all the positive vibes I’ve got.

Newnotsure

Re- reading BobbyBrandt heavy traffic

Tyler Derkearmian

Even with no new content this is actually a welcome surprise. Could we be seeing a new Tefler?

Jim lynch

That’s great tefler I sit patiently awaiting this next chapter

TF007

Any chance we will get the rest of 164 tonight?

FOEAI

Hope you continue to do well Tefler, I would argue if you wanna drop some concept art, or a new universe map with the Progenitor factions included. I'd be down to pay for those things as posts.

Robert Todd

Thanks for the update. Your timing is not so great. I'm just now starting to come down off my TSM withdrawal symptoms. My addiction is going to start all over again. I LOVE IT! GIMME A FIX!!!

sunxia

@tefler I hated the precharge thing, I feel the circumstance reduced the quality of your writing and pushed you into a sometimes last minute rush to deliver something. Patreon also has a ‘support my creator monthly’ subscription offering. I’ll bet a significant number of your fans would sign up, and could care less about monthly deadlines or who owes who x many words. We love the story you have created - I for one would be happy to support you through your prolific writing times and not. Some have said you need the pressure of the deadline.. If you set up a monthly support Patreon offering I’m willing to give you a year or two to rethink that motivation and get back to basics - and I’ll bet I am not alone in support for you.

dakota downey

Glad the place holders aren't gonna continue while I understand life has been hard I actually reduced what I was paying because it felt wrong to be charged for a placeholder instead of actual content once your all caught up I'll probably move my patreon back to the old amount but we will see depends on how wel you stick to your word

Mick Peaper

Same here I have also minimized my payment and will put it back up as soon as Tef has caught up.

Philip Lemon

I did the same thing, limit/minimized my payment. I want to show support but I’m not comfortable pre-paying. 1. I would support flat monthly fees. Don’t know how we could change to that format. AND/or 2. I would Strongly support shorter chapters (10-15,000 words). Reduce the stress of having to wait for larger chapters to be completed before release. If Tefler wants larger releases - then release multiple short chapters.

20 ton

I don’t like the idea of shorter chapters or monthly payments because it doesn’t solve the underlying problem. Tefler is a self described procrastinator ,like my self. I’ve avoided starting my own business, which this is for Tef, because I wasn’t sure I wouldn’t get bogged down with easy distractions. A normal forty hour job is a little over 160 hours per month. Does anyone believe each chapter is 160 of focused work? I couldn’t create something this wonderful regardless of how many hours I spent but I’m not trying to support my family with it. I work construction and pick up extra hours in case my roof leaks. 6 10’s and an 8 until this job catches up. This comes down to Tef using any of a number of methods to overcome procrastination. Hopefully when his health issues are remedied, he can get ahead before the next problems arise. Many of us love Burntredstone too. People may beg but they have no grounds to bitch because he doesn’t owe us anything. I hope Tef gets to finish this story from ahead instead of behind.

Bp Hlpt

I am NOT in favor of a flat monthly fee. Because if one was implemented, then Tefler would have no motivation at all to produce content. He would get paid rather he wrote a single word or not. He has professed that he needs the motivation. Since he has stated above that he will not be pre-charging, he now has a lot of motivation to get caught up so he can get paid again.

Anthony Kester

Are you looking for a 3SM Discord Server for serious people run by a lunatic? Have we got the server for you!!! Come on down to "The Invictus, a Three Square Meals Forum" and post your thoughts on the epic. https://discord.gg/tXEPg9PuhM

George Dennison

Hey Tef, Just catchin' up w/ the world. Gall stones, eh, not so good. At your age, that's not a plus. But, as they say, if you want to feel better about your own turmoils, talk to someone who's worse off. I got Covid in Jan '19, before anyone knew what the fuck it was. One of the US's 1st documented cases was a grade school janitor in Ore, who'd recently been to China. That grade school is < 2 miles from my house. (My theory, backed up by science, about how I got is another story, & too fucking scary to tell; what I'm about to share will scare you enough.) I got sick over MLK holiday weekend; sick for 3 wks, then dead tired for 2 more. When I had enough energy to shave, finally, I found a ping pong ball sized lump under my R ear. About 25% above the skin. Cause of my medical background, I knew this was not good, especially as Covid was getting going, & I knew it was gonna be bad. I had just heard a Brit doc, on BBC radio, talk about having Covid; when he said the most bizarre symptom was no warning vomiting, I realized I'd had Covid. Too soon for testing, I was more concerned about The Lump. Virtual MD appt got me an MRI; 3-4 wks later: necrotic lymph node. Great... gonna need surgery during a pandemic. Next, a CT scan confirmed diagnosis; 4-5 wks later, appt w/ surgeon. Five min into appt, he tells me I have HPV throat cancer in my R tonsil & lymph node. No one had mentioned cancer, at all; complete shock. July '19 had tonsil removed & 13-14 cm incision from below R ear, down & across throat, to remove lymph & check for spread. Radiation was planned, but a clean bill on spread cancelled it. Time to recover. Spring, 2020, R ear ache returned; only symptom I had, previously, other than The Lump. I knew the score, but tried to blame allergies. Summer, '20, diag: cancer returned to tonsil location, 7 wks of chemo & radiation began. By Oct '20, treatment over; I now had a gastric tube thru my abdomen to eat, a full time catheter to pee, no saliva production & something called First Bite Syndrome, (because of the neck incision, a major saliva gland nerve was severed; that little twinge we get in our jaw, when we taste something sweet, tart or bitter? It now felt/feels like an ice pick is stabbing me below my R ear.) Chemo & rad kicked my ass; by Fall '22, I was out of bed 3-4 hrs a day. By Spring '23, I was 50% & finally getting enough activity/work done to begin to build strength & endurance back up. I still have ½ of the house's roof structure to rebuild & re-roof, plus a major plumbing disaster happened during all this shit: my house needs to be re-plumbed. We've had a temp water supply for 2-3 yrs; hot water from faucets, turned way down because we have no cold water supply. Have cold water to washer & a spigot in the utility room. But, who's bitchin', I'm alive... well, an unrelated CT scan last year turned up a pancreatic cyst, which led to a special MRI. The abdominal oncologist tells me no worries about the cyst, not cancer, unlikely to become cancer... but, we found a spot on your liver. 1st it was The Lump, now it's A Spot; when the docs start talking w/ capitalized words, you're fucked. Now have liver cancer; just finished liver radiation, last week. This time around, the 3rd go, it seemed like the urgency of the The Lump & it's Sequel were not driving A Spot goings on. I'll be 70 this month; I asked my throat onco why no urgency. Is A Spot no big deal, or is my approaching 70 w/ A Spot, a fate accomplí? Well... he says, it's the latter; the HPV cancer patients I've had w/ A Spot average 1-3 yrs. He quickly reassured me, or tried, 1-3 was an average & w/ my good overall health & early detection, it could be much longer. I've pushed my other onco's & they've all demured, then I had a sub onco, a German born guy doing cancer training at the med school I go to. He was precise & to the point, which I appreciated: from here on, it will individual treatment for tumors which appear, of which A Spot is just the 1st. They'll scan the hell out of me to try to stat ahead, but eventually 1 will slip by, or they'll be too many, or... & that'll be it. It's actually much more calming & reassuring to knoe what my end is likely gonna be, while still having the mystery of when. I'm too cantankerous for it to be soon; I have too much to get done, plus I still have things I want to do. I'm in the midst of a 25 yr overdue remodel of my fabrication shop, (which I need to get up & get to work on.) The remodel/re-org/addition has the triple goal of getting me back in shape so I can finish the much more physically strenuous roof rebuild, getting the shop in shape for launching the YouTube channel I've been planning since pre-Covid/cancer AND it gives me something to focus on, plan & keep my mind busy & off my impending demise. Speaking of Covid & cancer, because of my medical background & being an exercise physiologist, I got curious about how Covid worked. I also got curious about HPV cancer in men; didn't know it was a thing. Funny thing happens when a trained mind gets curious, discoveries are made. In 2020, I came to the conclusion there was a very high likelihood the Covid stimulated the otherwise dormant genetic deformities caused by HPV, leading to my developing cancer. In short, Covid caused my cancer... that thought will suck yer nuts up, eh? All I had was my theory, & no one I communicated w/ in the medical field told me I was nuts. Then, in Summer, 2021, a group of Greek doctors presented a paper on the 1st fully documented case of a patient contracting Covid, & subsequently developing HPV cancer. So, it's been a long strange trip since '19, for me. I'm just getting caught up w/ life & about to get caught up w/ John & the girls. Hope you're recovering swiftly from your stones; keep pressing forward, you've got young ones & a wife who need you. My best to you, old friend... Regards, GeoD PS How I got Covid is even scarier, msg me direct & I clue you in. Don't want to put it out publicly, yet. G

TF007

Rest up Tefler

TF007

F5 ♾️

RedB

Take care mate.

AzureReader

Endlessly sending money for nothing to a habitual procrastinator isn’t motivating him to write. Exactly the opposite. We all sympathize for the death of a parent and a bad gall bladder. I’m starting to wonder if his fans waving a dollar or two by the thousands perhaps facilitated him taking a year off to deal with life shit anyone else with a job is gets a matter of days for. Being ‘supportive’ perhaps isn’t, at least in Tefler’s case. Writing isn’t something you can only do when life is perfect. The passionate writer picks up the pen despite the pain of life. Perhaps because of it. Recurve, may she rest in peace, seems to be an example of a passion for writing despite a truly unfair amount of suffering in her life. It pains me to be part of a ‘supportive’ group that seems to be playing a role in hurting Tefler’s passion to write. For this reason I am ending my support for Tefler today. I earnestly hope that this action is a tiny step in helping Tefler, just as my unconditional financial support seems to have been a tiny step in the wrong direction. I’ll be checking in once in a while. Tef, if you ever rediscover your passion for writing despite the hurricane of life I’ll be equally as passionate about supporting you again. Good luck my friend.

Carl

Get well we need more to read

Newnotsure

Just wow this few days have had the most conversations on everything I too have been thinking of pulling my support, Tefler is now a self employed person he needs to do work to get paid I too will give it to the end of the week and pull my support

Craig Robbins

I understand a few health problems but ever sense he went on patron and started getting paid. The chapters are smaller and slower coming, and I'm getting tired of having to prepay for a story that use to be free. Get your Shit together Tefler...............

Michael56Smith

.122: Oh, and Craig, if you are stuck for more good reading and haven't already found these wonderful tales, ... (try them first on their free sites), ... --- I recommend C.H. Darkstriders' the Prometheus Project, it is an awesome story that reminds me a lot of TSM, but in many ways it is better, .... -- And there's the fantastic writings of BurntRedstone, for free on Literotica.com, ... all his stories are incredible, ... but he has a few series that stand out, like the Jack Danner series, the Ben Shepherd series, the Satyr series, and the three-part Ed Walters series (she who understands) are among his best, ... -- Also, there is Antiproton's A Dragons Tale, and ADT comes out monthly right on schedule, if you can appreciate that, and he included a five-part free set of related chapters recently too, so, lots of bang for your buck, ... --- well, good luck and good reading, .... -- and there are many other wonderful writers of erotic fiction to sample out there, like Annabelle Hawthorne, ... she works herself like a dynamo, ...and if you like Horny Monster girls, hers is the place to visit, ... Piers Anthony likes her work, .... Also, she has hinted that she may try her hand at a Sci-Fi based story soon, .... and based on her 100 plus other well written chapters, it would be a good one, I feel, ... ;-) ttfn

Tipp McClure

"Next few days" just to finish half a chapter (rest of 164.) This isn't looking promising.

Michael McAtee

Is Recurve still around? I saw a RIP up above for her. Did I miss something a while back? I really enjoyed her addition to the TSM universe. I have not checked if there was an update any time recently. Life has gotten in the way of my reading enjoyment. :-(

Cignal

You guys seem not to be able to read between the lines. When Tefler announced above that he wouldn't be pre charging for chapters, meant that his has found an alternate source of income. So he is going back to writing part time. I don't know this for certain but it is my hunch. If that is true we will see less output from him as his main goal is to support his family, not the bunch of self centered entitled people here.

Parzival

I think there’s 3 possibilities. 1) he’s gone and got a job 2) he’s come into some money possibly from an inheritance or 3) patreon has cracked down on placeholders. I also don’t think it’s the anti place holder crowd that have painted us into a corner but rather the crowd that said it’s fine Tef don’t listen to ANY disgruntled fan. A comment was made to Tef about a year ago when he was a half chapter behind explaining he would burn out and end up 5 chapters behind if he kept going like that. He was never getting any break because he was constantly behind. Instead of finishing a chapter and taking a week or so to rest and recharge he had the constant pressure of feeling like he had to catch up. But the boot lickers kept saying just do whatever Tef it’s ok we love you keep charging us and digging yourself deeper and deeper. Instead of helping Tef with some ‘tough love’ they encouraged him to dig his own grave. And now here we are. The writing has been on the wall for a long time and the people to blame are the ones trying to ingratiate themselves by saying please charge us and support your family. It’s a tough lesson to learn but I can only hope that Tef does learn it and is more willing to listen to people that were saying things he didn’t want to hear while still supporting him. He needs to lose whoever was advising him and get some better support and help around himself.

AusLoki

So was Chapter 164 the last released as im not seeing any others?

Jim lynch

Writers block ? I’m wondering if writing such a long story like this is gets harder as time goes on I’d expect it would be. I’m impressed how tefler has chucked out chapter after chapter for all these years with no problems well it seems like no problems anyway. Just try keep it going tefler we all love this story/universe you’ve created from that great brain you have.

Unresolved Plots

Not sure about any writers block Tefler may or may not have, but he does have many resources he can use if he is ever stuck. Not sure if other Patrons are aware, but Cignal, one of Teflers patrons who is a mod on the original Discord channel, creates the ship schematics for Tefler that are made available here on Patreon. Cignal has also helped Tefler in the past with story continuity, using a story timeline that he maintains up to date, which is available for free on the Tefler Discord, permanent invite here https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord. Not sure if Tefler uses this timeline himself, but I would not be surprised if he does, as it is very detailed. I have used it countless times to check a story fact, to find what chapter an obscure scene happened in etc... Cignal also has a spreadsheet with journey times to TSM universe destinations at different FTL speeds. Again I would not be surprised if Tefler uses it to keep correct travel time continuity in the story. There is also an extensive open plot points document on Discord, which is continually updated when a question is answered or a new story mystery comes to light. These story resources and more are available at the Discord link above

tony

new chapters will come when tefler releases them (2 weeks)tm

Michael56Smith

.161: .... Ohh, ... it's time for Tefler Man-i-acs, ... -- We've got wisecracks by the stacks, ... .... there's bologna in our slacks, ... --- the Writer's flipped, we have no Script, .... ..... why bother to Rehearse? .... .... We're Tefler Man-i-acs! --- we're Totally Insane-y, .... ---- It rains in Spain-y, .... ----- Pinky and the Brainy, ..... --- Andromeda Strain-y, ..... --- Citizen Kane-y, .... ---- miss- cell any, .... ---- where's Lon Chane-y, .... ---- Eisenhower, Mamie, .... --- Chicken Chow Mein-y, .... --- Money Down the Drain-y, .... -- Dana Delaney, .... ---- No Pain, No Gain-y, .... --- Hydro-plane-y, ..... ---- Penny Lane-y, .... --- Tarzan and Jane-y, ..... ---- meet Mark Twain-y, ..... ---- have no shame-y, .... --- Hunchback of Notre Dame-y, .... ---- Fraiser Craine-y, .... ---- Lake Champlain-y, ..... ---- High Octan-y, ..... ---- Public Domain-y, .... ---- candy cane-y, ..... ---- Bangor Maine-y, .. . ---- bowling lane-y, ..... --- Shania Twain-y, .... --- Hurricane-y, .... ----- Presidential Campain-y, ... ----- Quiche Lorraine-y, .... -- and those are the Facts! .... ;-) ttfn

tony

nice improve of the animaniacs theme song.........i like it

Jim lynch

Those few days are dragging on a bit now lol 😂 I’m sick of checking ten times a day

Michael56Smith

.171: Hey Tefler Fan 007, the toilet bowel Kool-Aid is ready, .... 120-proof, and it is a bit of a fire hazard, so beware, .... ;-) ttfn ....

Andy Pearson

I worry the delays are costing Tef support. Hope he gets things rolling and regains some!

TF007

Once Tefler gets caught up he should probably just go to the monthly Patreon payment plan so the money is regular whether he submits 10 chapters or none.

Michael56Smith

.187: Hmmm, .... do you think that we might just get one of those unexpected and unpredicted 'Tefler Twists' regarding his possible future payment plans? .... Our Tef just doesn't do things exactly like other writers, somewhat anyway, .... -- I really hope that he can get all caught very soon, .... to finish off chapter #164, then start dropping chapters #165 though #168, ... hoorah! ... ;-) ttfn

Jim lynch

It’s just annoying when you get an update saying a few days and over two weeks later no chapter and no more news/update I mean it takes a few lol minutes to give another update to say whatever is the problem. Come on tefler just keep us informed that’s all I’m asking.

Greg Hill

Don't get your hopes up for more material at the end of the month either, since there has been no new material since 04/23, which in itself wasn't a complete chapter. Recent history says nothing's upcoming, especially since each single placeholder had to be in range of $20,000 each(at least) x 5 or 6...good money if you can get it. The pocketbook should be well filled, allowing a period of grace before necessity kicks in again, and this last unfulfilled promise of completion of #164 "in a few days" shows that yet again...

John Gregory

Please prove me wrong Tefler, but stating that you will not add anymore placeholders, would suggest that you have found an alternative income stream (job), which means that TMS is low on your list of priorities, especially with children and health issues. Saying it will take you a couple of days to finish chapter 164, and still not posting it over half a month later, is evidence there of. I suspect that Tefler has left the building with nearly £20,000 of Patreons' money for the 4.5 chapters paid for but not delivered. Morally wrong, but what saddens me most, is the fact that we will not see the end of this phenomenal story. Please prove me wrong...

dan davis

Tefler, I would not mind if you just went to a monthly fee, much like several other authors that I support do. This would eliminate any doubts about the pre charges that were necessary for your work and life.

Carmina.burana123

Anyone know any good books to read while I'm patiëntly waiting for the next Chapter. If you know anything where upgrading your spaceship is a big part of the story that would be really nice. ☺️

Ingo Klinter

Hmm last sign of live was 19days ago. Is he still alive? Maybe he forgot about the „Catch up August“ and switched it to „Catch up September“ ?

Unresolved Plots

Ingo in the past when Tefler said he will post something imminently and he didn't do so, it was because something unexpected had happened. I just hope that he and his family are all ok. Best case scenario is that his operation was brought forward and he was/is recovering from that and that he will get back to writing when his health is sufficiently improved.

Unresolved Plots

While patrons are waiting I'd recommend visiting https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord and searching through the spoilers section on there. You will find lots of discussions and ideas about what will happen in the upcoming chapters going back to last year, such as where will the final battle take place, how events will play out, who will die etc... I'd be surprised if you did not read at least one story theory there which you had not considered before. I think reading through and perhaps joining in discussions, if you are so inclined, could help keep some TSM readers entertained while they wait for the next update.

Ingo Klinter

Well here is nothing written about his wife or any other problems he has, so i think a lot of people doesńt know about it. Not everyone is on discord or anywhere else of what is possible in commmuncation. A little line here where he is advertising,cashing and delivering would be enough to let his community know whats going on.

Unresolved Plots

Ingo. I think you misunderstood my post above. I am not claiming I or anyone on Discord has any more information than the Patrons here, quite the opposite in fact. As far as I am aware the last communication from Tefler was the original post to this comment thread, so I know as much as you do. I was merely recommending that people can join the Discord to discuss the story in depth (and to make use of all the extra resources, such as the up to date story timeline) with other fans and in so doing relieve the boredom while we all wait for the update. You can use this permanent invite https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord to join if you want.

Newnotsure

Well left that Discord site I have tried to get back but Apple has placed a block on it saying it is a not approved site I will try again take a screen shot and show you guys

FOEAI

Hey Tefler, just wanted to post a thank you and I am excited to see your next post.

Michael56Smith

.229: ... and the maniacal song re-commences: (it's September in 2023) It's time for Tefler Man-i-acs, ... and we're Zany to the Max, ... So, sit back and relax, ... You'll press F5 'til you collapse, ... We're Tefler Maniacs! We've got wise cracks by the Stacks, ... .... there's baloney in our slacks, ... we're totally insane y, ... it rains in Spain-y, ... money down the drain-y, ... Andromida Strain-y, .... Cock a Mamie, ... Tarzan and Janey, ... Have no Shame-y, ... Hunchback of Notre Dame-y, ... and here are some facts! -- We're Tefler Man-i-acs! ;-) ttfn

MVFast

I’ve not read the spoilers on Discord. I will add this. I wonder… As most (all longtimers) are aware, when Tefler is able and the Muse strikes he can write, and write, and write! We might soon be (pleasantly) slammed with text soon. The last chapter seemed long enough for him to add only a little more to bring it to a logical stopping point prior to the showdown and the re-animation of Faye. You can argue it’s already there. There could be more progenitor technology discoveries on the throne world. That with Faye and the collective could be a chapter all on its own. Plus, they still need to build a ship more capable than the progenitor’s ship. Tef, I hope I didn’t steal any of your thunder!

Anthony Kester

EXCITING CONVERSATIONS!!! INTERESTING DEBATES!!! LOTS OF PHOTOS OF REDHEADS!!! Coming to a Discord near you, "The Invictus, a Three Square Meals Forum". https://discord.gg/tXEPg9PuhM

Keepit simple

Hoping to hear from Tef by midnight 9/30. Thankful to posts recommending other stories to read and authors to follow while waiting. Suggest downloading Demihuman interactive story from Googleplay...if you have Android. Story and plot by Kaizer Wolf.

TP

I left the discord site as I did not want to bother verifying my patron status for the moderators and providing proof of my age as it was noted by discord as adult only.

Rayce Royal

(Rolling on the floor throwing a childish tantrum) I WANT MY TSM!!!!

Unresolved Plots

Ditto, except its multiple times a day for me!!

MVFast

Soon! Soon! I know he usually drops new chapters near the end of the month. Is it usually the last week, the last few days, or the LAST day of the month?

Michael56Smith

Sorry, but for now, there will be no more placeholders, so Tef has no more payday deadlines, ... and without any 'no later than' timeframe imposed on the next chapters, except for 'he's working on them', when we get them is up in the air, .... sigh, .... I sort of liked the placeholders, at least we got something regularly, even if it was just an update, ... -- the second half of chapter #164 and chapters #165, #166, 167, and #168 are presently in a Tefler Limbo, ... we'll get them, ... but when? ... ;-) ttfn

bjcreek

There is absolutely no reason for Tefler to drop anything at any particular time of the month until he's caught up on back chapters. Not if he isn't doing placeholders any more. It seems to me like he does have another job, doesn't need the income from here any more, and is so drained out on TSM that he's pushing everything off as long as he feels like he can. I would not be surprised if these last few chapters we are owed turned out to be the last of TSM. The chapters where he winds everything up. I don't think he gets any personal pleasure from writing the story any more, and after all, he's been working on it for a long time. A very long time. I hope I'm wrong. But I think all of that is a definite possibility.

Thomas Johnson

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Joe Waldvogel

So the next few days to release the current chapter he was working on, which is this whole topic has turned into almost another month and counting. So about 2 months of nothing new. Saying nothing about a delay which would take a minute to do. Dropped off to somewhere. I can only assume he is dead or is now working some other job leaving everyone here clueless.

Josh

Tef might have been optimistic about his gallstones/bladder recovery - my boss is dealing with this right now and he expects to be out 2-3 months easy.

MVFast

I just hope he’s okay.

William Wallace

I hope I am wrong but I think that chapter 164 will be the last chapter we will ever see, I'm assuming tefler lost interest or is hampered by a writers block which can take forever and 3 days. But it would be nice to inform his fans about it, and stop with excuses nobody believes anymore!

Negative Energy

Tefler, you still alive buddy? Gallstones didn't do you in, did they?

Keepit simple

Socialized medicine for non wealthy individual should be enough said....yikes! Hope we are all surprised tomorrow at midnight for a chapter from a recovering Tef

stephen mincher

I remember Tefler needing to earn £1500+ to go full time writing. That figure has has been well exceeded since before I joined. I would think it would be tricky getting that high a paying job(especially after 3 years of blah) so I reckon he is pushing to get the next chapters out soonest(still needs to plan and write 167+168) so we might get 2 1/2

AusLoki

i'm still four chapters behind and purchased the released books. came back online to see if we had been caught up.

TF007

12 hours to go

matthew

needs to hurry up been watin all day prob be like 6 to 9 tonight

Michael56Smith

.... with no payday deadline incentive, we are mostly 'just' counting on his EOM publishing habit, ... and depending on his own health and his family's, that 'just habit' may not apply for a time, ... -- I do hope that he will update us, so we know when to expect some more yummy TSM, .... ;-) ttfn

Kensyi

So with Starfield being out, who has made the Invictus?

Unctadsk

Last 1 hour... keeping fingers crossed.... F5..F5...F5....

Eriktlupus

you know the turnover is based on the pacific time zone, right?

Sol Tangoran

We've not had any updates since last month and no new chapters since June. Any word on when we'll be seeing new content?

Michael56Smith

I am afraid that we are not getting any EOM chapters or Updates tonight, ... sigh, .... oh well, we'll just wait for whenever Tef feels like it, ... -- with no placeholders, and therefore no deadlines for a payday, we have no way of knowing when or if an Author (Tef) is going to drop any new material for us to read, ... -- I hope that Tef and his family get better soon, and that he gets some refreshing 'change of pace' time, that allows him to come back to writing TSM strong and ready, ...my fingers are still crossed, ... ;-) ttfn

Keith Ballantyne

Yes sadly I think this grand epic maybe fading into the sunset sunset... Maybe the huge scope of this epic... has just overwhelmed Telfar

Keith Ballantyne

But the saddest part is if he just disappears and does not have the curtesy to let us who have supported him know

MVFast

01:25 AM on October 1st, 2023 USA pacific standard time…

Dave Tamares-Little

From what people are saying it looks like we all paid for 4 ½ chapters that are unlikely to arrive. Oh well, live and learn! Being a pensioner, I guess I will have to be more careful in the future

Grandizer

So I am about to cancel. How do you go about getting your prepaid money back? I will wait a year and rejoin. Other writers produce enough to cover me until then.

Dave Fahy

Reminds me of 4 years ago when Kid Wigger kept putting excuses in his blog of why "Flight of the Code Monkey" chapters where not coming until his blog ended a couple of months later and there were no more chapters. I still miss Code Monkey too.

MVFast

Call me optimistic. Hopefully, we’ll see something in the next few days.

Keepit simple

To restate the obvious, to me, rarely have I seen a long-term successful business be one person. Tef has developed a loyal customer base for a product we all are willing to pay to read. Think placeholders were something, if I had been his financial advisor, which being one in real world I get asked about constantly, I would have advised against. Maybe for a single month due to tragic life event, but just like any other type of debt, the worse it gets the more stress it creates. My hope is Tef is getting his house in order and ignoring us all to get caught up on debts. Tef needs a Faye and so do all of us!

whyme943

Hope things go well.

Chandler

Inactive and incomplete

Michael56Smith

I suspect that if Tef is not just recovering from UK healthcare, then I hope that he is likely just relaxing in relief from not needing to, at the last minute, finish off a chapter during the tail-end of a month, ... phew, it must be a big relief from his self-imposed stress for him, and this would be for the first time in many months, ... -- Yeah, yeah, I know many of his fans have passed on their thoughts as to how he should conduct his creative work more efficiently, but Tef keep on with his more stressful ways, ... I'd bet that this EOM was his first breather in a long while, ... (hope you've enjoyed it Tef). -- I am also hopeful that sometime during this new month, Tef will provide us with a status update on the TSM story, and for his own health, ... fingers crossed, ... ;-) ttfn

Joe Waldvogel

Why am I not surprised, still nothing and can’t even bother to say anything! It’s getting to the point of can’t even remember where we left off, it’s been months. He took about 5 chapters worth of money ahead of time for thin air. A few days for a chapter were his only words which has turned into yet another month. Can’t even be bothered to say anything which takes very little effort. Looks to be another story going up in smoke. I don’t know how someone who writes for a living can’t write anything? How about, I decided to take a couple months off from writing? That takes almost zero effort. I just don’t get it. I knew this was going to happen with this whole placeholder thing. A 1 time thing was being used again and again as he got himself into a big hole because of that. Everyone should get a refund from services not provided.

Bigfoot

I'm calling it. Tefler is dead. RIP.

Fred

It’s a real shame how Tefler has mismanaged his work. Most authors would love to be in his position with a popular series and readers willing to give them money for the next episode. Writer’s block is a thing, but not even writing the occasional status update about what is going on smacks of disrespect to his loyal readers.

Michael56Smith

Some possible valid excuses for our wonderful TSM series author: in the UK, healthcare scheduling problems for Tef and his problem gallbladder, ... his wife and kids, wife will have many more weeks in a cast from her broken arm, but she should be able to do more by now, ... Tef did lose his father early this year, ... he may still be a bit down from that, ... making it harder to write, ... I hope that's enough, and it is just good news for Tef and family from now on, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

Oh, and on a very positive note, BurtRedstone dropped "Walking an Endless Path, part 3" on 10/01/2-23, .... a very good read, ... enjoy, ... ;-) ttfn

stephen mincher

Tefler sure knows how to cause angst (in & out of the story)

MVFast

I was surprised when I figured out Tef reads American westerns. At Valia Gate, with the Karron survivors; "The name's Marshal Pete Coburn and I want you to work for me as my deputy." 🙂

Joel Wyrick

Time to reread the entire TSM series again. If no new chapters are available when I finish it in 6 weeks, I'll call it quits on this one.

Jim lynch

I’m thinking writers block now way too long whilst still taking

Newnotsure

.1008:,,,,,, Started to reread the TSM again on chapter 47

DTC

Is this thing done?

Michael56Smith

We all should let our Tef relax, destress, heal, ... and just recover from one heck of a year, so far, ... You know that a refreshed and recharged Tefler might just write some truly awesome stuff, .... -- Will chapters #164b and #165 through #168 be quickly addressed? -- And with all of the incredible tech and gear from the Grand Engineering Overlord, the powerful leadership from the Kythvinadhys, along with the cunning and planning of Captain Fernandez and company, ... our Tef can properly advance his TSM epic tale for us to enjoy, ... (Halleluiah! and pass the biscuits please), .... ;-) ttfn

Rev. Thwack

It's been more than three months since Tefler finished a chapter. The one he's supposedly finishing is five months late. He still owes us four chapters after that. And he hasn't even bothered to say anything to us for over two months now... this is how you get your Patreon followers to all file fraud complaints against you.

Evan

I agree with those that are relaxing about this. Look, Tefler has stated that he’s not going to be pre-charging anymore. He will hopefully get chapter 164 finished relatively soon, then create chapters 165 through 168, and then he’ll hopefully be able to make a good living by writing again while taking time to actually live. It’s only been just over a month (August 31st) since Tefler wrote this last post which I”m commenting on, so let’s not panic and bewail not hearing from Tefler, just yet. Again, hopefully, all is well with Tefler and his family and we’ll hear from him soon.

Unresolved Plots

To those who say Tefler has writers block, you might be correct, but not for the second part of chapter 164 or 165, which Tefler has stated previously are both already planned out by scene. What we are waiting for with those is Tefler being well enough to commit them to paper, with these chapters likely being the resolution of the war with Gahl'kalgor. Tefler has laid lots of breadcrumbs for the subsequent chapters (Visiting the Star Forges, which could be a whole chapter on its own, freeing the Abandoned in Brimorian Space, Tom Walker's trial which we know from Tefler ties in to a specific point in the upcoming story etc...), so I think it is unlikely that he has writers block. It is more likely that he hasn't been well enough to write imo. I do not have experience of gall stones, but from some posts people with experience have made here, it seems that gall stones can be very debilitating and that Tefler has probably underestimated the effects on his writing in his most recent posts, especially if he has been looking after his kids as their primary carer, whilst his wife is laid up with a broken arm. It is also possible that since his last post he has had and been recovering from the operation to remove his gall bladder, that was postponed previously. I'm hoping it is the latter reason and that Tefler is now recovering back to full health. Once he is well again and reinvigorated, I suspect that we will see a relatively quick turnaround and acceleration in the chapter posts, compared to the last couple of years in which Tefler has been affected by this health issue.

Greg Hill

Are you guys on the payroll too?

Newnotsure

..1009:…… I think we are all going to shit when Tefler sends a message

throw away

It's egregious that the writer has taken several payments this year without providing the end product. I understand real life can happen but to not have any sort of communication is a slap in the face on top of it. Get your shit together Tef.

Puttanegra Ficondo

Well, all good things are bound to end. I just hoped TSM would end in a higher note rather than in a whimper, collapsing under the sheer weight of the world it brought to life. Thank you, Tef. Even if we are done, you brought us to amazing places. And if I am just pessimistic, I will be here waiting anyway.

sunxia

Alas, poor Tefler! I knew him, TSMers: a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: he hath borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! my gorge rims at it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft. Where be your gibes now? your gambols? your songs? your flashes of merriment, that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one now, to mock your own grinning? quite chap-fallen? Now get you to my lady’s chamber, and tell her, let her paint an inch thick, to this favour she must come; make her laugh at that.

Michael56Smith

Alright guys (and gals), it Might actually be the end of TSM, ... But we are just guessing for now, .... I believe Tef's most recent communication was back at the end of August, saying that he'd not press us for any more placeholders, ... So, it is just too early to mark R.I.P. on Tef's epic, ... We expect some delays due to his own health issues, and due to his wife's broken arm (late July/early August), and with the increased needs for him to help around the house and to chauffer the kids about from their various interests, ... these things could be the only 'real' cause for the no-new-chapters, ... all of that and no more Patreon pay deadlines for getting a payday from his chapters (or placeholders) could be the big reason for no EOM communication, he had no pressing requirement to drop us a note, ... and it may be that he is planning to 'talk' to us later, when he has a completed chapter #164, maybe, .... also, he might actually NEED a (short) break to rest and to recharge, (it has been a really rough year, with his father passing on and all), ... so, he could still, quite honestly, be planning to return soon to his writings, do not count him out yet, ... we've not heard any awful news, so why barrow trouble? -- my fingers are crossed for luck and as for myself, I expect many more chapters, ,,, ;-) ttfn

FOEAI

Hey Tefler, just wanted to say hope you're doing well; will hear from ya when I hear from ya.

John Gregory

All this chatter about whether Tefler has stopped writing and found an alternative income stream leaving his writing career with payments of 4.5 promised, yet undelivered chapters, or if, like some devotees believe, he is simply taking longer to recover than he had anticipated, could all be so easily be cleared up. The bad feelings between the nay-sayers and Tefler and the devotees, would all go away, if only Tefler took 5 minutes every so often, to keep us updated. It's his lack of communication that is currently bringing him down. That's what is leading more and more people, like myself, to believe we have heard the last of Tefler.

AShi

In general, it is customary, in capitalist society, to be entitled to complain about products paid and undelivered

Tom Ray

facebook page Three Square Meals Fans

Tom Ray

there is a lot of stuff out there. he is on amazon under M. Tefler

Kensyi

I'm not going anywhere, hope all is well, would love an update on you

Evilebob

No update is no update. Thank you for not pre-charging.

Mick Mercer

Seems to me … 3 months in bed with Dragon Dictate should be a possible pastime to while away the hospital boredom

glenn kellogg

Well, it was a good run Tefler. Many hours of fun diversion; I’ll just give John and the girls a happy long life in my head with a whole planet full of beautiful babies. Hope your health holds and future endeavors bring abundance. If TSM is part of that, all the better. Thanks

Wyoming Iceberg

It doesn't help when Patreon changes it's UI. I've seen messages from other creators I'm following that complain mightily about the mountain of pages needed to sort now just to post their latest output. Adding this to personal, IRL problems in addition to some of the madness pervading the UK now and it's understandable that there might be a delay at the very least.

Michael56Smith

Yeah, delays that are Not Tef's fault or doing, .... let's give the guy a break, and the benefit of the doubt as well, .... I hate that some have so quickly jumped onto the Tefler has quit writing TSM bandwagon, ... he has had to step up and do many things that his wife, with a broken arm will not be able to do for many more weeks, ... and his gallbladder still needs tending to, ... please be a little more patient, ... ;-) ttfn

TF007

Tefler Log- Day 37- the mists are closing in. TSM fans are restless and starting to go crazy with boredom. We are all waiting for the next chapter to banish away the darkness…..End Log

K Cav

I had a dream last night that I was teleportative like the lead character in Jumper and Reflex and was called by a telepathic, beautiful blonde woman to help a team of delicious babes. I ended up on the invictus. TEFLER: PLEASE WRITE!

Brandon Anderson

Does anyone have an update on Tefler? Hope all is well with him.

Michael56Smith

Okay, let's try this for all of you worriers, ... Our Tef has always been a very poor communicator, .... very spotty, ... mostly his updates were at or near the time of his dropping of a new chapter (or placeholder in recent times) so, I say that the payday incentive brought about (forced) his communicating, ... -- Now, he has promised to not do 'placeholders' again, at least not until his has gotten all caught up, ... therefore, no incentive to give us any new updates, ... at least not until he drops us a chapter, ... so, let's not worry over that lousy Tef habit, and cross our fingers for more of his wonderful TSM writings, ... cause Tef is just being Tef, ... -- and to quote the infamous Alfred E. Newman, "What, me worry!" .... ;-) ttfn

Russell Hermen

Its been over 6 weeks since we have had any coms for teffer does any one know whats going on

Steven

Hey folks, anybody else going through TSM withdrawal as bad as me? Is it, Heaven forbid, over? I suspect IT IS NOT! Tefler has reportedly been in contact with some on Discord DMs. He’s also popped on Discord but those in the “know” aren’t saying and everyone else has a case of “WAS” (that’s Wild Ass Speculation). Take a breath please and keep things in perspective. If the worst things we have to deal with are some missed self imposed, hope filled deadlines by the artist, wow aren’t we lucky, or blessed. The governments haven’t shut down, hospitals didn’t close, electricity is still flowing and the trains are still running. I’m not making excuses for Tefler or anyone else. They don’t need to justify their lives, choices or troubles. We don’t know and can’t understand what someone else going through or struggling with AND we have no right to know. There are people here in this group who have health issues, financial issues, marital issues & some hellish mixture of all. Some here have lost the fight with that “that good night” (RIP, Recurve33!) And others that soon will. Take time to read the posts here and on the Discord servers. What we DO share here is an apparent passion for this story. Again, take time to read the posts here and on the Discord servers. We discuss (& lightly argue, lol) the science, weapons, strategy, plots, well just about every aspect of TSM. Since it’s relative. The Wheel Of Time book series is reported to be 4,410,000 words and took 23 years to achieve. TSM started 12/20/15 and we received the first half of chapter 164 on 7/31/23 and at my current count is at 4,242,460 words. That’s 7yrs, 7 months & 11 days, or 91.3 months. (And it’s still going) That’s also an average of 1.8 chapters a month and an average of 46,467.25 words a month and before someone gets snarky “no I’m not on the payroll either”, just old and experienced. Don’t you think maybe the guy has earned a break. Remember Karma can be a Bitch. I’ve had a couple of very brief brush-bys with her and that was enough! Ok, I’ve expressed my thoughts so you can pull out your torches and pitchforks now. Hopefully some will ponder some of the more important things in life and then, maybe what Dana will come up with next...

Michael56Smith

good thoughts and suggestions, thank you for sharing, ... ;-) ttfn

Chris

Don't forget that life has been kicking Tefler in the head in the past few months. Writing a story this big is a full time job, he is allowed a break every so often. Even corporate America allows its indentured staff time off every now and then.

Dean Lee

What’s the latest on tefler?

Michael56Smith

If only someone who has had a recent dialog with Tef on Discord would pass on how he is doing and how the status of TSM is sitting, ... -- from Discord, we do know that Tef is still with us, ... ;-) ttfn

Myrnalin

After being a Patron for years I feel I recognize a pattern.. I think suddenly 4-5 chapters will drop

Unresolved Plots

@ Myrnalin. This is the ideal optimistic scenario for the lack of updates from Tefler. I do think that when he is well enough to write, he will quickly complete 164 part 2 and 165, the outline of which he has stated he already has and probably takes us to the end of the current war arc. If Faye's long awaited return does not happen in these chapters, then it is almost certain that it happens in 166 in the aftermath of the battle, along with resolving or attending to the resulting or ongoing issues e.g. Securing and bringing Mael's remaining 7 defense stations online, deploying any remaining requisitioned Larathyran fleets, same with the remaining Galkiran Thralls, fleets and Wormhole Gate, continuing the evacuation of the Maliri males, exploring Kythshara and the bunker under the palace on Valada etc... This is easily enough to fill an entire chapter. We have the visit to the Star Forges to look forward to, which again could be an entire chapter on its own. Visiting Brimor to deal with Athgiloi and free the Abandoned, Tom Walkers ongoing trial and Lynette's problems with the Outer Rim and High command are other issues that need to be resolved. So I hope that your prediction is correct and Tefler is able to quickly commit all the above and more to paper.

Jonathan Seeley

I'd just like to hear a word so we know he's still kicking.

Jonathan Seeley

I suppose I would like to join the aforementioned Discord, is the invitation public?

Rayce Royal

Every time that I look in the mirror All these lines on my face getting clearer The past is gone Oh, it went by like dusk to dawn Isn't that the way? Everybody's got their dues in life to pay, oh, oh, oh I know nobody knows Where it comes and where it goes I know it's everybody's sin You got to lose to know how to win Half my life's in books' written pages Storing facts learned from fools and from sages You view the earth Oh, sing with me, this mournful dub Sing with me, sing for a year Sing for the laughter, and sing for the tear Sing with me, if it's just for today Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away Oh, sing with me, sing for the year Sing for the laughter, and sing for the tear Sing it with me, if it's just for today Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away Dream on Dream on I dream on Dream a little, I'll dream on Dream on I dream on I dream on Dream a little, I'll dream on Dream on Dream on Dream on I'll dream on Dream on Dream on Aerosmith "Dream On"

Michael56Smith

That was very poetic RR, I liked it, thank you, ... now I'll say goodnight and go to bed and dream, ...;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

Oh, and for CH Darksriders Prometheus series fans, a new chapter, chapter #56 drops on Saturday according to the Author, Yay! ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

I hope Tef can squeeze a freebie TSM chapter or two in at this time, last was back in May, and 20 chapters behind Patreon, ... Maybe only a dozen chapters would be enough of a lead, ... just a thought, ... ;-) ttfn

Wingy

Is this the end? Looks like it....

Carl

What is happening

bjcreek

No one knows. Except maybe some on Discord. Tef isn't going to be doing placeholders any more, and said he'll finish the ones we're owed. Since he no longer is doing placeholders there's no obvious urgency to finish those we're owed, so no one knows what, if any, schedule there is for finishing them. Or if he'll continue after that. I think most of us hope he will continue. That's all I know. Sorry.

Michael56Smith

Plus, he is still helping out from his hurt wife with the broken arm, and he has (maybe) yet to have his gallbladder surgery, .... all time-consuming stuff, .... we'll get new TSM chapters when we get them, ... by Thanksgiving? ... before Christmas? ... I really don't think Tef has given up, but he is likely in need of some kind of a break, ... so, next year (2024) should be a really good year for TSM, .... Please, everyone stay well, ... fingers crossed, ... ;-) ttfn

tony

funny we haven't got a chapter in 2 months, i am starting to lose hope of any more chapters this year

Ingo Klinter

Not a good style of appreciation to send not one comment about himself about a needed break or whatelse. So 2024 is coming with big steps and therefore the precog of the next chapters in the next year will come true….

jerry661

I'm worried about his health.

Joe Waldvogel

You would think, being a writer, you would say at least 1 sentence to all the people paying real money for his story . I just don’t get it. He says he is putting up a chapter in 2-3 days and then nothing after all this time. I don’t give a crap about Discord. Does he make his money on Discord also? What’s it’s been, 5 months since anything new? But he can’t be bothered to say anything. Come on, it’s pretty ridiculous. A writer that can’t write 1 sentence? To me it seems insane. Even a line saying he’s taking a few months off. Something, anything!!!

Myrnalin

PATREON ADDED A WAY TO BLOCK USERS !!!!!! :O Goodbye whiners may you whine in Peace! (and to me silence)

Newnotsure

I think the block is for the full group not just from you . I think it is like a removal from the group

MikeA

Interesting that the placeholders were give Tefler money on a monthly basis as he needed the cash. Now he doesn’t??? I suspect he is no longer a full time writer and it would not surprise me if our favourite story is done.

bjcreek

I keep checking back to 164 since that one isn't quite finished and that seems the logical place for Tef to add something new. Checking about once a week, and calling it hopeful. Glad some are still commenting. And I don't care if some are letting off steam, everyone needs relief from time to time. Best wishes to all!

Rayce Royal

Maybe he inherited some funds from his late father's estate? That would at least explain the lack of placeholders. Still, it would be wonderful to get some kind of update on his health.

Malcolm Rickarby

I am much more concerned about the health of Faye. I was expecting her to return as a filthy organic and bring her own set of charms to produce an end to Xar and his hold over the Progenitors. Then the story can end on a happy and triumphant note and everyone can get on with their growing families.

Robar

So, almost 2 mo later, what’s happening with this story and your health?

MVFast

The Tom Walker situation has to be dealt with. I’ve re-read the story several times, but usually skipped over most of that. It’s interesting, but not enough to re-read multiple times. The Maliri hacker can’t be left to keep causing mischief. Also, the Enshunu, and the Achonin space station are another thread that’s still open. What will the Maliri do with their soon to be “obsolete” spacecraft? I’m sure no one’s forgotten the Brimorians still need to be dealt with. What psychic power will Faye get? Charles Harris’s harem has another potential addition (Tamar, captain of the Aphrodite) Will they recover the remains of dead nymphs? Guys (and gals?) what other open story lines has Tefler left to be told? Addendum; I don’t think he ever said precisely how many progenitors there are. If he can kill Zar, they won’t become “good” overnight, but how much of their power depends on him? Separation from their thralls (and therefore most of their power) would dramatically change the fight too.

Robar

I'm not worried but curious where it is. Thanks just please don't die. Seen that happen and it still hurts ! Tell someone the story you have so if the worst were to happen...at least there would be closure. Get healthy in any case!

Justin Webb

I just don't know how tefler can leave so much money on the table. when the Patron count was up he was almost at 8,000 people that's means he was earning around 10 grand A month for 1 chapter, and that was some time ago. I could never abandon such a high paying job that really only required A week of writing per month. But if tefler if gone I hope someone will pick the story up and keep writing it, I would totally follow the new writer

Newnotsure

Where is this coming from give the man a break don’t go writing him as dead please. He needs time

DemonHunterCole

Almost 3 months and no word. Hope he’s okay. Has there been any updates posted by him on any of the 3 discords?

William Wallace

Those on discord that know something should come clean, and tell us the real reason, not some bogus excuses that nobody in their right mind believes.

Michael56Smith

Whoa there Braveheart, ... and just who was it that sent you to comment all 'negatively' on TSM, ...as you do NOT seem to be open minded enough for the story, ... nor do you seem to be enjoying any of the delightful things revealed in a wonderful Sci-Fi tale like Three Square Meals, .... Therefore, it must have been a horrible 'under-the-bridge-troll', that sent you here, .... ugh! ... and so, there will be no cookies for you! .... ;-) ttfn

Steven

Hey folks, anybody else going through TSM withdrawal as bad as me? Is it, Heaven forbid, over? I suspect IT IS NOT! Latest: “It is a combination of things. First, his health is a real issue. Not going into specifics but he is dealing with a really bad infection in and around his liver. Second, he is fed up with all the whining to the point he has gone out and gotten a job. His intent is to let the entitlement mindset work against them, hoping they will be a bit more introspective (as if). Third, he is burned out and is taking a break. So this is going to take a while to resolve. Sit back and do a re-read or two.” From someone who should know Take a breath please and keep things in perspective. If the worst things we have to deal with are some missed self imposed, hope filled deadlines by the artist, wow aren’t we lucky, or blessed. The governments haven’t shut down, hospitals didn’t close, electricity is still flowing and the trains are still running. I’m not making excuses for Tefler or anyone else. They don’t need to justify their lives, choices or troubles. We don’t know and can’t understand what someone else going through or struggling with AND we have no right to know. There are people here in this group who have health issues, financial issues, marital issues & some hellish mixture of all. Some here have lost the fight with that “that good night,” And others that soon will. (RIP, Recurve33!) Take time to read the posts here and on the Discord servers. What we DO share here is an apparent passion for this story. Again, take time to read the posts here and on the Discord servers. We discuss (& lightly argue, lol) the science, weapons, strategy, plots, well just about every aspect of TSM. Since it’s relative and for balance. The Wheel Of Time book series is reported to be 4,410,000 words and took 23 years to achieve. TSM is currently at is at 4,261,460 words, 7yrs, 7 months & 11 days, or 91.3 months. (And it’s still going) That’s also an average of 1.8 chapters a month and an average of 46,467.25 words a month and before someone gets snarky “no I’m not on the payroll either”, just old and experienced. Don’t you think maybe the guy has earned a break, I sure as hell do! Remember Karma can be a Bitch. I’ve had a couple of very brief brush-bys with her and that was enough! Ok, I’ve expressed my thoughts so you can pull out your torches and pitchforks now. Hopefully some will ponder some of the more important things in life and then, maybe what Dana will come up with next...

Matt

"Entitlement mindset." Like feeling entitled to swan off with our money and not providing promised content. I have been patiently waiting and not posting regular complaints, but I understand the feelings of the people that have. I feel that writing off a large collection of regular customers as 'entitled whiners' who parted with their money in good faith, and have reason to feel resentful, is a bad business move. I also believe going so long without posting updates generates the risky proposition of people realising they've lost momentum and emotional investment with the story and finally decide to write it off. Some people might be happy that their product is so popular that consumers are screaming, "Shut up and take my money!" Something of a luxury problem to have. Insulting them and their interest is an interesting move, let's see if it pays off.

AShi

I do believe expecting something already paid for is, in fact, NOT entitlement. Instead, seems to me to fall under contract law...

jdg45

I think the whiners should get the coming chapters. Only a few thousand words for each. There is no rule about content! Then maybe TSM can get back on track!!!

Kensyi

TBH, I was tired off prepaying for chapters, but only when he didn't clear it first, like talk to us, even a small update would be amazing. Like that was all I really wanted was a, "hey all I need to pre charge the chapter this month, medical problems have arisen in the family" or something, I'm not going anywhere I am still checking in every so often. It's 2 bucks for me it isn't a big loss of money, but I just wish to know he is alive. Some stories I read and have read are amazing then they just stop. And nothing new cuz something happened and it saddens me, I really wish to have a finish to this story it is so amazing. Can't wait for him to come back from his break. I will still be here.

Cornbread

Can anyone recommend another story to pass the time?

Rayce Royal

I would like to perform an experiment: Those of you who poo-poo the "whining entitled people" go onto Amazon or some other on-line ordering site. Now, purchase 5 things. It doesn't matter what the cost is, just as long as you go ahead and pay for them. Ok, done? Good. Next step is to wait. When they deliver half of one of the products over the next six months, I want you to think about how you have chastised and denigrated those who have acted "entitled" and demanded what they bought. At no time can you write an email to Amazon complaining about the lack of delivery of your justly purchased products. Why? Because you reap what you sow. I sincerely have no idea how someone can justify in their mind how expecting delivery of what is paid for can be considered entitlement. Conversely, I also have no idea how people can be so demanding of a clearly ill person to continue to perform at pre-sickness levels. A tiny bit of communication would go a long way toward easing tension between author and patrons. That being said, please understand that the man is SERIOUSLY ILL, and quite possibly has zero energy to post something that he knows will be met with negativism and vitriol. (oooh I used some big words there :) I would like to propose a truce between the "nay-sayers" and the "cultists". This infighting does no one any good. In fact, it seriously detracts from the desire to visit this site, if all you see are barbs being thrown at each other. Clearly, we are all here because WE LOVE TSM AND WANT MORE. None of what any of us are doing is helping to create a place where Tefler feels safe in communicating. Please, take what I have said with a few pounds of salt and a laugh. Don't take yourselves or life so serious. Who knows, maybe Santa will bring us what we all want for Christmas. Be kind.

Daniel Jechura

So I know this story started around 2015 (if I remember correctly). I found it around 2018 and started reading it. An loving it. Somewhere in late 2022I found the Patreon page to continue the story. Until now. While I waited to continue the story in June I started reading the story from the beginning for the 2nd time. Finding ot new things I did not comprehend the 1st time. The story got better. Now I am rereading the story for the 3rd time. ( on chapter 48) Remembering things I forgot from the first 2 times. I understand sickness and no energy. I can wait and hope TSM will start writing again and finish the story someday. Good luck.

Daniel Jechura

Time to get back to Chapter 48. Ok may the complaints start again.

Pana Napoleon

Tefler, love your story. Get better and when your ready to return to John and his girls, we will be here for you and them. Thanks for letting us join in their tale.

William Wallace

If this is really what Tefler ails? Why didn’t he come clean? Or is this something that someone has written to get of Tefler’s back? If he doesn’t come clean himself, I consider this as a lot of hogwash. He has the audacity to call people who have supported him, without complain up until the 3rd placeholder. Where he started to find stories & excuses, real or not after a while nobody believed them anymore. He better put some money aside since this is also fraud in the UK, and I’m sure some will ask a payback. As long as he does not come clean, I don’t believe anything anymore enough has been said and he ignores them.

Unresolved Plots

William Wallace, you use the first 2 1/2 lines of your post to arrive at the conclusion that what you have read from others claiming to know about Tefler's status is not true. Then the next part of your post complaining about what they have written about Tefler...the stuff you don't believe!! The last bit of your post repeats that you don't believe what has been written!! Which leads me to the conclusion that you could be a speech writer for Trump!!

Vince

Well Unresolved Plots, thanks for putting your TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) on full display. Thanks for showing us your true colors. You could have attacked W squared without politics. Are you a Harvard, U of Penn, George Washington University supporter too?

Kensyi

Oh, I thought of another story like that is in resolved, the outer rim, also the Kintark. Ummm, what else?

Michael56Smith

.550: I have been kicking around a time travel TSM story idea, where John wakes up in his old bedroom, in his grandparents' house, and 17 of his closest girls / wards / crew members are downstairs in the living room, ... mostly in the nude, .... great start to a story as he disarms Grandpa Don Blake from defending his home, and introduces both Don and Eva to all the girls, ... and John quickly passes out many of his large sized T-shirts to the girls, because the old house is kinda drafty, ... -- and our heroes go on to save the lives of many who were once lost, like Rachel's mom, ... :-) ttfn

Mike Saxion

Does anyone have any information on how long Tefler’s recovery will last?

Sceptre

I hate to say I told you so. But, I TOLD YOU SO! The simple truth is that Tefler used to enjoy, maybe even love writing TSM. He'd post a new chapter and, though there might be a few people critiquing his work, the majority of feedback was hyper positive and all you would read in chat was people posting ideas they had about the story or making suggestions. I can't imagine the high associated with creating a literary work and then being able to immediately share that with your fans and experience the euphoria of it being well received. Then, on top of that, making more money doing that, than you did in your 9 to 5 grind!! Enter adversity; home issues, health issues, family emergencies, missed deadlines and then sprinkle in the discontented "not so silent minority" Jones'ing for another hit and what do you get? While the bulk of supporters here understand that this type of work is a delicate entity and are happy to grant leeway in the extreme, there are others who employ a cold, dead, hard approach; Was my dollar taken? Then where's my chapter?! Nevermind that that very attitude expressed in chat would begin to erode the creative process that brings that story to life; that the ceaseless railing about being charged for something you didn't receive would actually create the mental barrier that's keeping the story trapped in the only mind that can deliver it. We all know that Tef got behind; he's aware of it, we're aware of it. Does he want this to be the case? Absolutely not! Do we want this to be the case? No, not a single one of us. But coming here to whine, and whine is the right word, serves no purpose. It's like grieving in video games. Does that serve any purpose? No. Does the player grieving gain anything? No. Does the person being greave'd gain anything? No. So, why do it? Don't know, I'm just here and you're there, I'm bored and there isn't anyone around to whom I'll be held accountable, so I'll just do whatever I want because I have no compassion or foresight. Well here we are, each of us individually down 5 bucks and no new chapters in sight; a regrettable and potential end to the TSM series looming. I remember warning about this months and months ago, hoping I was wrong, but knowing that some people don't need a reason to be negative and derisive but if you give them anything resembling a legitimate reason, they'll kick and scream until someone parts their beard to get the nipple back in their mouth. Please, please, don't feign that your concern is that Tefler was paid 1000's of dollar's for product undelivered and that you're concerned FOR all of those people, because you, the very one making that argument, are the same one standing over the smoldering remains of that level 1 newb "just because" and if there had been a way for you to get their money in the process, you would have. I'm reminded of the Emperor in Gladiator (don't pretend like every single person in this chat didn't see that movie) where the Emperor said to Maximus, "There was once a dream that was TSM. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... it was so fragile."

Michael56Smith

I think that you have made a few points, but I 99% do NOT agree with you, ... ;-) ttfn

Bigfoot

Update: John, the girls and the Invictus win. The End.

MVFast

It’s not yet November 1st in California!!!! Hawaii gets a couple more hours on top of that!

Tom Ray

It is Nov 1 now....... I guess this Story is done....

MVFast

He’s just playing a November fool’s joke, right? Right? 😆

MVFast

I really do think he wants to go further than this. Is he late? Yes. To leave his story hanging permanently? Probably not. I guess we need to be patient.

MVFast

We hope you’re well (or getting there) too Tef.

Aaron Yuro-Smith

I am not sure we can call this abandoned just yet but I think 90 days officially qualifies as hiatus.

ED

hi Tefler, can you please provide a status update. how is your health? what are your plans? there are 5200+ followers waiting for news from you. you may be upset for some reason or another but there are lots of people waiting for news from you in silence.

Michael56Smith

.573: ... let's see, Tef's wife broke her arm back in August, .... and he has been helping with family stuff since, .... has he had his own health issue, his gallstone operation, taken care of yet, or putting it off? ... not to mention any recovery time he would then need, .... hummmm, ... two plus months, her arm should be better, but still in a cast, ... ;-) ttfn

Stephen Paynter

I have just been listening to TSM again (auto-generated, but I'm weird, I've got use to the monotone delivery) and I've just got to the battle of Terra against the Kintark ... That is one fantastic battle. So gripping, and so many different interlocking parts. It is worth waiting for another chapter from anyone who can write like that !

Stephen Paynter

On another note, I've also been watching a reactor react to Battlestar Galactic, and I've just noticed how their fighters are just like the Terran fighters before they got Dana's upgrade. Also the Galactica, with the way it launches fighters is just like the TSM capitol carrier ships.

tim sheppard

Thank you Tefler. Thanks for bringing me along on your journey to create something so warm and wonderful. If the story ends here, I will have nothing but fond memories of the universe you created. However, I suspect one day John and friends will be back in our lives with new adventures. Until then, health and happiness to all.

Michael Cummings

I think that catchup August has turned into nothing November!?

Dean Lee

Awww man this blows… holding out hope for November…

Keepit simple

My advice to Tef would be ignore posts, finish 4.5 chapters previously promised and charged for, release all on same day, have one or two additional chapters written beyond that, promise one chapter 15th of next month after catching up and second chapter following month on 15th, stay at least a month ahead so he can guarantee hitting a deadline while leaving room for RL emergency. Take out pressure of deadline and get back to joy of story telling......nobody leaving that enjoys TSM. Will wait and look forward to TSM continuing.

MVFast

I wonder how hard we TSM fans have been hitting the Patreon web servers…

Simon Fish

Hey Tef, and updates mate, as we are all waiting in eager anticipation!!!

Laurel Hodghead

Tefler, I don't need a chapter, I just need an update that you're still alive and well.

MVFast

I’ve only been checking a few times a day. Honest! (Well, actually five to ten). Sigh.

gearhead10

Some time back someone had posted a link to the TSM by Telfer Discord site. I used that , found the discussions and tagged it so I could go back to it since I already have an account on Discord. I have attempted return to that site a few times and I end up getting redirected to the generic login page. When I try to do a search for the TSM page the search results indicate no such site. So, is it gone or am I not entering the data correctly? I am fearing the worse since having had the same health issue I know that if gall stones are not addressed quickly the gall bladder will turn on the rest of the bodies systems. Anyone else having this problem (the finding the TSM site)?

jdg45

If you join Discord you will see an update on Tefler. Sadly a chapter may be a while...

MJHSharkbait365

Not able to join or view the TSM discord due to an age restriction limit. Guess this happens on some Apple devices. Can someone please summarize Tefler’s update here

Newnotsure

I think all Apple users get this

tony

my prayers for tefler's good health and resolution of his health problems go out to him (gall bladder problems are no joke, mine was within hours of rupture and killing me when i had surgery to remove it)

Unctadsk

Dear Friends, Tefler to his time off before battle with Drakkars due to writer's block. He couldn't decide how to express the battle. Same happened on battle of Tera. Now this battle is also very crucial and he have taken already 3 months plus time. Let's hope for the best that new chapter's start coming quick as Christmas/New year gift. Other way is foulmouthing which is not acceptable for anybody's health and mind. Ciao.... Njoy...

Stephen Paynter

Still listening to my auto-generated audiobook of TSMs - now up to the Kirrix invasion of Charon ... I love the Fat Tony story, it both helps one to really understand what a Kirrix attack would be like, and is a great redemption arc for Tony. Again, going over the story really helps to underline how great TSM is, and how much it is worth waiting for a new chapter from such a talented author. Also, there are some fascinating loose-ends with regard to the alien species in the Unclaimed Wastes - are those the same species that put the clever ancient electronic defence watcher in the Brimorian networks that we met chapters earlier? I want more! Answers please!

Joe Waldvogel

Another month, and still nothing. Not even a short sentence here to let everyone know what is going on. Something like taking a break, see you all next year? Writers block extend to being so lazy to all the people paying to read your content, you can’t even be bothered to write a sentence. Really pissing people off when you say next chapter being released in a couple days and yet not a single word here since then. Discord is meaningless. Everyone should get a refund on the money they paid out and zero services for that money. It’s fraud at this point!!! Return everyone’s money. Those still sticking around can pay when the content is finally released someday.

James St. Clair

And so ends a really great saga, after ripping off his patrons for many thousands of dollars . So many storylines left hanging, so many great characters in suspended animation. What a waste.

anand srivastava

I think Tefler is waiting to complete those 4.5 chapters plus a buffer of a 2-3 chapters before he starts posting. If he has also started working full time, then that will delay the development of new chapters. He used to take around 20 days average for each chapter. Now that will be more than a month (maybe 2) for 1 chapter. So I guess we are in for a wait of at least 6 months, possibly a year. I will have read this tome twice by that time probably. It is an amazing story. The character and story growth in this story is unparalleled.

Dean Lee

Thoughts and prayers

Craig Robbins

I hate to think this but if I was still alive I wouldn't leave my readers hanging this long. I Pray IM wrong.

Ingo Klinter

I will be very happy with a nice little christmas chapter this year and so i will give a little advice to all of you: Dońt give up on Tefler, he will be backkkk :-)

Myrnalin

After Patroen allowed us to block other users, this feed has been pure positivity and encouragement... And I have not blocked more than 10 in total. 10 People who ruins it for the rest of us. I strongly suggest blocking the whiners.

Jennifer P

Has anyone heard from Tef ?

Daniel

Im suffering withdrawals. Any recommendations?

Glen Stewart

Dream Drive. Excellent long story, but you’ll be quite disappointed as it just ends. But it’s a great ride up until it falls off the cliff!

Bill Garmen

So true, what do we really know? is Tef ok? is he alive? Anyone got anything?

Matt

164 was partially fulfilled. 165-168 was full sunk-cost scammed. Made people not want to unsubscribe since they'd be leaving money on the table. Multiply that by the vast group of subscribers, and he's made off with a great deal of money he's not entitled to. Up until now, I've stayed quiet, but he's made it clear he's decided to scam people as much as he can before alienating them. I would start initiating tickets with Patreon if I were you. He's made it clear he cares nothing for subscribers, and he's making a mad dash for the exit. I didn't want this, I was enjoying the story, but we have to deal with reality.

Tom Ray

He may no longer be with us. If he was and something is wrong, He would have updated us by now. If he is gone, it is a sad day.

Douglas Newberry

I have really enjoyed Tefler’s story and wish him and his family well. I have not subscribed more than I can afford, so I see no reason to be worked up and simply hope that he resolves his health issues successfully and I am thankful for the enjoyment. I’ve already had with best wishes, Douglas.

DENNIS COFFEY 59

I am afraid you might be correct. I will hope for the best and say a prayer.

bjcreek

When I come back here to see what's going on I'm getting a first post from several years ago. Before, when I entered the site, it started at the newest post. From Tefler that was July 31, but the comments were current. Now I have to reload the site from within to get back to a first notice from July 31, Tefler's, with current comments beneath. However, I'm now wondering if more current stuff isn't being loaded for some reason. Anyone else experiencing this? I have made no changes to my status, or anything at all. Thanks.

Son of Lan Mandragoran

Tefler! I really hope all is well for you. Please just drop us a simple "Hi, I'm still alive!" I mean I named my 4 Blue Ball ships in No Man's Sky after you.... Ok, I chuckled on that one, but I really did ( Tefler's Dream and Tefler's Idea). Still, I do wish you and your family health, peace and love on this holiday Season.

Aaron Yuro-Smith

Okay, so three things that I don't recall being covered in the story but have always been ??? to me: trival to biggest issues 1. Piercings - We know what happens to tattoos when they go through the change but what about piercings. I doubt Alyssa or Dana would have any given where they grew up but Calara and Jehanna would almost certainly have some given that they are cultural for both Latino and Indian cultures. Also "bad girl" Rachel didn't have a belly button or nipples pierced? Hard to believe. But what happens with them. Do they seal tight over the piercing and basically lock in in place. Do they heal and push them out of the skin like splinters or something. I've just always been curious. 2. What happens if a male accidentally (or purposefully) drinks a progenitor's cum. I figure one of three things would happen: a) Nothing b) They die c) prolonged exposure to the DNA altering substance turns them into a woman. I have to imagine accidental exposure has happened and maybe a more scientifically minded Progenitor experimented. I assume Mal'Nerak (sic) would have known given his deep genetic knowledge. 3. Lastly the baby craziness of the entire Invictus crew. They have to realize they are immortal and more than likely their children won't be except for the Nymphs, and maybe Alyssa. John has already stated he wants nothing to do with sleeping with his daughters (fair). So the mothers and John will have to watch their children die over and over again. That sounds like some level of hell that I didn't know existed.

valiant8086

pretty sad to realize Teifler could be gone from us. He was doing some kind of medical issue last I recall. I really thought this story would stay with me for ever. I find the missing updates a real loss. I really adore the storyline and the characters. Hopefully the author is alright.

MVFast

Hmmm. Just thought of something. Except for oral, was John a virgin before Alyssa? He was always worried about pregnancy, and finding super sized condoms might’ve been difficult… I went back and re-read the beginning. He didn’t make love to her until after Alyssa’s first shopping spree. It’s not stated or implied that he did the deed beyond having one night stands. After a blow job, the woman would be knocked out, and before giving him a blow job, few women would be able to handle him. He’d not be able to enter a woman’s womb without hurting her.

Jeff Combes

Tefler, trying to stay positive here. Since your last chapter was posted, I have turned 65, retired and have been waiting for all of these placeholders to be posted with updated chapters.

Michael Cummings

Since the last chapter posted I have had my 77th birthday

bjcreek

Congrats to all the birthday people! I just turned 73 a couple months ago. Keep checking in once in awhile. Less and less often. Hope all is well with everyone!

AlvaRock

What's going on? It has been almost 3 months since last chapter

Newnotsure

Here’s a silly question does Patreon charge a basic fee for normal use or is it only the percentage of what they bring in? Just wondering Like a monthly maintenance fee, whether you use it or not

GH

No status updates for 2 months. Worrying.

Bigfoot

Here's an actual update. The Philadelphia Eagles beat the Kansas City Chiefs this evening 21-17 and improved their NFL best record to 9-1. Fly Eagles Fly (see? That was an actual update).

William Wallace

After the first of September I started checking daily, for any news. Since October I started to check weekly, now I’m going te reduce it to once a month, I support other reliable writers on Patreon. These are writers that have a day job, and still produce a chapter a day!! I don’t care what Telfer’s problems are he has been payed and did not produce anything, so this entitled me to either insist on Tefler producing what he owns us, or payback his illegal received money. I know there will be several people that will put me on a blacklist, who cares they love to cuddle Tefler I don’t.

Cignal

If any of you guys saw how Tefler responded in Discord to the Literotica whiners when they protested that they were 3 chapters behind Patreon and they though that he should release to Literotica at the same time as Patreon, his lack of production in Patreon can be easily explained. Now Literotica is about 20 chapters behind Patreon. Since he got pissed at about a dozen whiners here I suspect we won't see anything until at least next summer. Here is a link to his post about Literotica. It is in #general so everyone should have access. https://discord.com/channels/352559623724728339/352559623724728340/778589132267454474 Pay attention to point 6. Reader entitlement.

Justin Webb

the difference is literotica readers are reading for free we all paid money in advance. that is why people started complaing, he would pre-charge and say he was going to be caught up by the end of the month but then 1 pre-charge became 2 and so on. Now add on the fact he has just disapeared and people feel taken advantage of.

Unresolved Plots

@ Justin Webb, while it is fine for you and anyone else to have these feelings wrt Tefler and post them, the option is open to you or anyone else to email Tefler and ask to be refunded. Patreon rules are quite clear on this (in the first couple of paragraph's of their refund policy, it is not hard to find). The problem that I and others have with people complaining is the ones who seem to be on a crusade to hound Tefler away and post things like "we demand a refund" as if they are speaking for everyone, when in reality it is for a very small minority. Nb// I'm not accusing you or the majority of people who have complained about the wait of being in this group! Those people have the simple option I have posted above to get refunded and leave, yet choose not to use it, which makes me think why? The only conclusions I can come up with is that they really just want to shout loud and be heard by someone. Or perhaps it makes them feel important, thinking they are standing up for everyone, like a civil rights champion who is creating a movement for people to get behind. But the reality is it is just a few dollars that most have paid, for 4 1/2 chapters of an erotic story. These whiners are no MLK or Ghandi, but more like the Karen's on youtube videos, demanding to speak to the manager whilst having temper tantrum's like little children. The vast majority of his 4300+ Patron's (I've replied to your other post with a link to my source btw) never comment, so it seems are ok to wait for Tefler to get better and to start posting again. Hopefully that will be soon.

Unresolved Plots

Getting back to the purpose of the comments section, to discuss the story...My prediction for what the next 4 1/2 chapters will entail is as follows:- 164 part 2. The build up to the final battle with Gahl'kalgor i.e. The Invictus will return to Kythshara to prepare defences and come up with a plan to isolate Gahl'kalgor and try to save his Thralls. 165. The battle with Gahl'kalgor and his forces will imo probably take up most of this chapter. 166. Imo most of this chapter will revolve around the resurrection of Faye (maybe involving a psychic battle like the ones in Jade's mind or the one with John's guide), with Kythshara and other Maliri space secrets being explored further 167. I think this will be an upgrade/repair chapter spent mostly at the Star Forges, with the Invictus/Raven/Valkyrie being upgraded and possibly other new tech being built. 168. I believe they will then head to Brimor to deal with Athgiloi and the Brimorian's, which will lead them to find out about Tom Walker's setup and spur them to help him. We will have lots of side stories within these chapters i.e. The ongoing Walker trial, sending out Ward forces with assigned tasks like securing the remaining battle stations, evacuating/relocating the males, securing the Hyperwarp gate at Arcadia, collecting the stranded Galkiran's and their damaged ships, continuing the relocation of the Abandoned, Lynette's issues with High Command and the Outer Rim etc... There could be a spanner thrown in this if Xar acts quickly following Gahl'kalgor's defeat, assuming he is defeated! e.g. If he immediately sends another Progenitor to attack Shroud space, or perhaps Larathyran or Galkiran space, then John's priorities and my predictions might change!

Xexsu

Yep, email a dude who's not even bothering to confirm whether he's alive or dead about a refund. Let's see how long that email goes unread...... Can we come back to reality and use common sense or are we just going to continue living in fantasy land.. 100% sure people have already done this just to see if they'd get a response from the author and not some weird ass automated patreon response for inactivity.........

Twigret

Is there any actual news on Tefler or is the comments just speculation and/or people wanting money back?

Unresolved Plots

@Twigret No news as far as I am aware. My hope is that with Xmas approaching in just over a month, Tefler might want to get a chapter payment. This would mean that he would have to release all the outstanding chapters and 169. Obviously that is a lot of work and would only be realistic if he has been completing these outstanding chapters, but sitting on them, waiting to release all of them in one batch. For this to have happened he would have to have recovered from his illness. That is my hope. Wrt the people who 'want' money refunded, I've written a number of posts now explaining the very simple step that needs to be taken to do that (asking Tefler directly for it in an email to him). As I've also pointed out, not one single person has posted on here that Tefler has refused their refund, which should tell us all we need to know. These moaners would not hesitate to call Tefler out on this if that was the case. So its very clear, they haven't asked. They instead post unsolicited messages on everyone's behalf like 'Tefler has stolen our money', 'Tefler owes us $30K', 'This is fraud' etc... failing to understand that when Tefler posts these prepaid chapters none of what they say is then true, or that their beef is actually with Patreon, who allowed placeholders to be used and not Tefler.

TF007

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Enjoy time with your family.

Xexsu

I'm cool with the differences of opinions people have the right to voice them this is a paid forum and there are tools in place to remove what you find offensive to you. Personally, everyone is different and as an adult, I can respect that. That being said some people ( literally just one person let's just keep it a buck) here make it their personal mission to berate and honestly borderline harass people whose opinions don't jive with their own. Do you think the authors stockpiling chapters for some grand Christmas mega-drop? Cool, that has never happened that I can remember but cool that's your opinion (if it is). Some people are waiting for Jesus to come back or for the dead to rise their prerogative not mine, live and let live debate but appreciate other's perspectives and move on. I also don't write here for likes I'm not out here seeking validation from strangers who enjoy the scfi novel I read. To reiterate if you find yourself commenting on every single post you dislike maybe take yourself outside, unplug, and go to the gym. I invite discussion and debate but if you're just going to yell "Patreon can help you with a refund look into it!" like I didn't already know that then proceed to gaslight me in an attempt to troll I'm good please skip over my comments they aren't meant for you since you can't/won't acknowledge that your opinion never was and will never be the only one, thanks!

Mick Mercer

Has anyone here actually met and talked Tefler? Maybe someone can touch base and let us know he is at least

Russell Hermen

just wondering where is the next chspter due

R Scott

Does anyone have the Discord link?

GH

The delay in publishing is getting so long, I’ve forgotten the nuances and details of the preceding chapters. It really makes for disjointed reading as a result.

MARK W TALBOT

Get a refund for what? No new chapters means no new charges. I just hope he is ok. It is very concerning that we are being left hanging like this. If something did happen to him, it seems like there were no contingency plans to let us know. If he could let us know he is still alive and hasn't, then wtf?

Marc Ben-Rubin

Does anyone know how to contact Tefler's wife? This is getting serious and I know I'm not the only one getting pretty worried about him. Forget about the story, I'm just worried about him and his family.

Mike Biagio

I see that teflers stories are out in books. Are these the completed works?

Michael56Smith

.744: ... timeline: back in August Tef's wife took the family camping to give him some distraction free time to write, ... but she broke her arm right away and sadly we lost 'August catch up month', .... now Tef needed Gallbladder surgery at that time as well, but his family needed him to do many things that normally his spouse would've done, ... I suspect that he may have postponed his own surgery to take care of his family, then when he finally got around to taking care of his own medical problem (rescheduled to be in October - November?) ... he might still be in the recovery stage, ... so 2023 was pretty much a bust for TSM stories, ... better luck next year (2024, yay!) ... -- maybe (hopefully) a few Christmas chapters? where he keeps all the various Progenitors names straight, ... oh boy ... ;-) ttfn

Jeff

i fear the end has come and Tefler is to never be seen again, not that it hasn't been building up to this

Evan

I hope that Tefler and his family are doing well (or at least better) and that we're just seeing the results of Tefler's promise not to pre-charge any more chapters, so he might just be working on finishing up chapters 164-168 and planning to release them all at the same time so that he can get back to earning a living here. In the meantime, he might have gone back to work to earn funds while he's finishing catching up. In the meantime, we live in perpetual hope (for some) and wish Tefler and his family all the best during the upcoming holiday season, while hoping for our own gifts to arrive.

B S

to quote Anakin...".back to the Beginning!!" Chapter1 here I come!!

AShi

Discord link doesn't work...

Vizth Hal

While I'm hoping for something tonight, realistically I'm not expecting anything until after Christmas.

TF007

I’m hopeful for Christmas Day marathon.

GC

Function 5. Function 5. Function 5...

Big Orca

3 whole months without an update.

Tom Ray

he's DEAD

matthew

i truly hope tefler is ok i wish him the best and hope he comes back soon

DemonHunterCole

5 months since the start of chapter 164. 3 months since an update. Have there been any updates posted on any of the 3 discords? I’m going to start checking England Obituaries to see if he passed away.

Mr.Gabriel

People who are mad at people waiting on what we paid for need to chill. If he was caught up to what he charged us and then wants to take a month or five between chapters then that’s all good. My problem is being lied to. Even this post lied to us…

Tom Ray

Not even a word on his facebook page....

Hugo

So I'm guessing Tefler is taking a break. Hopefully he will be back in the new year. Does anyone have any suggestions for in the meantime? Some good space opera would be great. I'm running out and need something to fill in the time. Help me Obi-wans!

Michael56Smith

.774: And when was Tef's last payday from his fans? was it in July? ... sometime last summer, anyway, ... the poor guy has been unwell, and is likely quite broke by now too, ... I am worried about him and his series, ... ;-) ttfn

David

BurntRedstone has some great stories and nice long reads. Also check out Lostboys stuff good scifi and entertraining. found on literotica.com

John Gregory

On the 17th of September I wrote: "Please prove me wrong Tefler, but stating that you will not add anymore placeholders, would suggest that you have found an alternative income stream (job), which means that TMS is low on your list of priorities, especially with children and health issues. Saying it will take you a couple of days to finish chapter 164, and still not posting it over half a month later, is evidence there of. I suspect that Tefler has left the building with nearly £20,000 of Patreons' money for the 4.5 chapters paid for but not delivered. Morally wrong, but what saddens me most, is the fact that we will not see the end of this phenomenal story. Please prove me wrong..." I was told "he'll be back" and "give him the benefit of the doubt" etc. Last time we heard from Tefler was on the 31st of August to tell us that he would complete chapter 164 in the "next couple of days", which we are still waiting on over 2 months later, and the last time he posted anything was back in July, if I am not mistaken. How long should I give him the benefit of the doubt before I should say "I told you so"?

MVFast

F5, F5, F5 😁

MVFast

Is that actually the right key? I’m actually checking on my phone.

FOEAI

There's a sci-fi space story about werewolves and vampires, unfinished, but written by the deceased author Mike cropo on SOL

FOEAI

I also like The Missing Dragon by Lien_Geller on Lit.

soooo

Will we ever have anymore from Tef?

Christopher Glymph

Do we even have evidence that he’s alright? It seems very strange for him to just disappear like this for this long with no notice whatsoever. But if something went wrong, how would we know? I’m more worried about what happened to him than the chapters that I may never receive.

Tom Ray

Everybody knows that if he is alive, he is reading these posts. and the longer he doesn't reply, the bigger hole he is putting himself in.. SMH....

Perry Carruthers

Tef - if you're in a dark place, broken and grieving - your beautiful muse hasn't left you. You just need some time to heal, and then you'll hear her again. Be kind to yourself. It might seem impossible just now, but try to find these three things in your life: something to be grateful-for; something beautiful; something to love. You are loving, loveable and loved. Thank you for sharing your gift.

Michael56Smith

.808: Let's see, Tef began TSM in December of 2015, so he has been writing this epic for 7 1/2 to 8 years, (do you think he needed a break?) ... and we know that he did need to have a gallbladder operation, and if that was being delayed, it might have caused him some additional medical problems, ... then, if he ultimately did have the surgery, then he likely would've needed many weeks to fully recover, (until maybe about now?), ... -- So, how about we let him sleep in for Christmas, and then we can all enjoy some new chapters in the new year? fingers crossed, ... see ya in the funny papers my friends, ... -- Dark Speculation: ... and IF he had quit writing TSM, then Tef would likely have sent us an update stating his plan to take a break and come back to it 'later', ... I think that no note is good news, ...Tef's last old update in August was that he was working on finishing chapter #164, ... and further, I think that Tef has plans to continue TSM, life just got in the way for a while, ... -- and I blame the crying by a few about his placeholder (future chapters) charges, ... so he stopped pre-charging, so then he did not need to send us any kind of end of month update at all, ... so, this was a self-inflected communication loss, ... so, merry Christmas, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.811: ... let's see how many Grand Engineering Overlord projects Dana has dangling: -- finishing the correction to the wormhole generator, no more nausea, ... (or did she finish it already?), .... --- more / better weapons, ... I want to see a couple of mini quantum flux cannons on the Raptor, ... -- build a dozen or so copies of the Paragon 2.0 suits of Armor, ... ---- Examine and fix the Star Forges, ... so much to learn there, ... ----- use / test the Star Forges to make a couple mini–Quantum Flux Cannons for the Raptor 2,0 (now Raptor 2.1), ... --- upgrade the mass fabricators with her newest ideas, .... -- All of the work on Kythshara: _ the automated warrior 'bots, _ the defense system - turn it back on with a computer in charge (Daphne - in a new server?), _ the new sensors for the Lianelis Saevath Cloak breaker network sensors / stealth craft detection system, ... check on Faye (Rachel), and Dana needs to find any more Mael treasures, --- build a bunch of super hoverbikes, ... ---- build /construct a new White (non-deadly) Soul Forge, ... in her spare time, ... -- remember to brush her teeth, ... ---- gee is she ever busy, ... and I know there is more that I've forgotten too, ... ---- Oh yeah, and there is also the project with her Matriarch, Alyssa, to make a few 'magic wands' or Focusing devices, like Mael and Larn used, .... they can use the schematics from John and also the physical device of Larn'kelnar's as a guide, although I'd bet that Dana can improve on it some, but they'll make it from Mael's White Metal (MWM), or at least CA, and not the evil PBM stuff, ... all of John's sorceresses need a magic wand, right? ... Alyssa, Irillith, Jehanna, Sakura? Tashana? Edraele, Dana and Rachel, and maybe Helene? ... ;-) ttfn

Robar

Where are you Tefler?

Unctadsk

Are we going to get a grand Christmas or New year gift. Let's hope so.... I feel it wil be surprising all...

Jim lynch

Give him till Christmas or new year then if he’s not commented then I will get in touch with Patreon about getting my money back for the placeholders I think everyone should do this too.

Newnotsure

I think getting any money back is not going to be good we are Patreons to him it could be counted as a gift we should just wait to see for sure

Lawrence

I’m not asking for any money back. We all got what we paid for- a behind the curtain peek at the creative process. Writers Block, Health Issues, etc., are all part of that.

HillCountryCowboy

TSM has almost 170 chapters? Unless you’ve paid almost $170, asking for money back seems ridiculous. Some people are petty, sweating a few dollars when they’ve received 167 chapters of a great story. Really?? If this is a problem worth obsessing over, you really do t have any big problems, do you?

Steve Bennett

id just like to know if anyone has heard anything on tef after writing so many chapters on tsm I just don't think he skipped out on us it must be health or something i wish we could find out

Robert Hawk

I am waiting for the "rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated "statement.

UnderToker

3.5 months without a word.. when StarFleet Carl passed his son posted about his passing within a fairly short time.. I would hope someone in his family would care enough about his followers to at least acknowledge he has passed if he is gone

Michael56Smith

.831: Here's a note from Tefler dated from two years ago, enjoy this older holiday greeting message from our Tef: Merry Christmas! Dec 25, 2021 Hey everyone, I hope you're all having a very merry Christmas and Santa sent you a sexy space elf in stockings! If you weren't on the naughty list and didn't receive a feisty Galkiran thrall, then you have my sympathies... but you can console yourself with a preview of the next chapter of TSM. I've attached my first draft of chapter 146. I still have half-a-dozen more scenes planned out, and I'll add them to the chapter when I get back from visiting family over the next couple of days. Merry Christmas! Tefler --- Ahh, good memories, I am looking forward to 2024 for more good stuff, ... and a Merry Christmas to all, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.832: ... and as a reminder to Tef, since it has been so long since he's cranked out a chapter of TSM, .... a few notes: ... Tef needs to help John's crew defeat those pesky Gilkiran's, .... and, ... ... let's see how many Grand Engineering Overlord projects Dana has dangling: -- finishing the correction to the wormhole generator, no more nausea, ... (or did she finish it already?), .... --- more / better weapons, ... I want to see a couple of mini quantum flux cannons on the Raptor, made from MWM, ... -- build a dozen or so copies of the improved Paragon 2.0 suits of Armor, ... ---- Examine and fix the Star Forges, ... so much to learn there, ... and it could be a fast / quick and easy source of MWM too, .... ----- use / test the Star Forges to make a couple mini–Quantum Flux Cannons for the Raptor 2,0 (now Raptor 2.1), ... Dana would likely need MWM to make them, ... --- upgrade the engineering bay's mass fabricators with her newest ideas, .... better, faster more versatile, ... -- All of the work on Kythshara: _ the automated warrior 'bots, _ the defense system - turn it back on with a computer in charge (Daphne - in a new server?), _ the new sensors for the Lianelis Saevath Cloak breaker network sensors / stealth craft detection system, ... check on organic Faye (Dr. Rachel), _ and our sweet Dana needs to find a few more of those Mael treasures, ... --- remind Dana and the bot's to build a bunch of super hoverbikes, ... the girls will love them, ... ---- build /construct a new White (non-deadly) Soul Forge, ... in all of Dana's remaining spare time, ... (on Valaden? or on Kythshare? or elsewhere?) .... ---- gee is she ever busy, ... and I know there is more that I've forgotten too, ... also, Dana should remember to brush and floss too, ... that's important, .... ---- Oh yeah, and there is that little project with her Matriarch, Alyssa, to make a few 'magic wands' or Focusing devices, like Mael and Larn used, .... they can use the schematics from John's Progenitor knowledge, or instead. they do have a physical device, Larn'kelnar's focusing wand as a guide, although I'd bet that Dana can improve on it some, also, they'll make it from Mael's White Metal (MWM), or at least CA, and not that evil PBM stuff, ... all of John's lovely sorceresses need a magic wand, right? ... that would be Alyssa, Irillith, Jehanna, Sakura(?), Tashana(?), Edraele, Dana and Rachel, (would a focusing wand aid the good doctor with her psychic healing?) and maybe Helene? ... others? ... all that should kick-start a few thoughts for ole Tef, if he reads it, ... ;-) ttfn

Bill

I certainly hope Tefler is still around and kicking. My cousin was diagnosed with Gallbladder disease and turned out it was stage 4 pancreatic cancer. He passed away a couple months later.

David Bremer

Is there a way to contact Patreon to ask them to contact Him and see what is up? I’m sure they require a current address and phone number. Maybe they can reach out and see if he is ok. That is really all I would like to know. If he is ok, he will post new chapters when he is able. If he is not ok, then my prayers will be with him and his family.

TF007

On the 12th day of Christmas Tefler gave to me. Twelve pissed off Admirals Eleven Fleets destroyed Ten brooding space elves Nine asses plundered Eight tentacles fucking Seven girls screaming Six passed out nymphs Fiiivvvveee gallons of cum Four awesome chapters Three space battles Two sexy twins And Alyssa sucking on Johns huge cock. Damn I’m bored 😁🤣

G E

I don't care at all about the money. I didn't like the sound of his health updates at all and I fear the worst at this point. I also wouldn't trust the NHS to properly help him out. I highly doubt he would ever intentionally skip out on us. I think he's either got serious health problems, or serious family circumstances, or the worst case. I hope I'm wrong.

Michael56Smith

... and we can dream of new TSM for a few more days, .... ;-) ttfn

Randy

Does anyone has info on teflers health status

Randy

Any updates on tefler health issues

Michael56Smith

update comment #860: -- hmmm, so no one has 'heard' anything, and it's Christmas in a few more days, .... will we get our stockings stuffed with some long awaited TSM chapters? or not? -- of course, there are the gloom and doom types that think that not hearing from Tef (he normally has a communication problem) might mean that something bad has happened to our author, .... (nooooo) --- but he did have various health and family issues, and after 7 1/2 + years of writing TSM, I think he might have needed a little break as well as his time to properly heal from surgery, ... so not hearing from him does make a fair amount of sense, ... and while it is quite frustrating, I think it is completely understandable, ... I wish him well, ... ;-) ttfn

Sam Holder

HI folks, I reached out to Patreon Help to see if they had a way to inquire about Tefler's health. It turns out no, they do not, and if you want a refund, Tefler is the one to decide that, not Patreon. So I suggested they consider adding a way to verify an author's health, but I would not hold my breath. My guess is their business model is a commerce server with multiple vendors who set their own rules. If this is true, they probably chose it because it has the lowest cost and the smallest exposure to legal risk ($$$). Wish I had better news...

Michael56Smith

Merry Christmas Folks! I just wanted to pass this along to all you good Erotic Sci-Fi fans: .... C.H. Darkstrider has just dropped the latest Prometheus series chapter (#58) in Patreon, .... and if this story/series is new to you, there are many 'free' chapters available on Literitica.com, so take it for a test drive, ... Enjoy, ... and have a Happy New Year too, ... ;-) ttfn

TF007

3 days until the fun begins

Michael56Smith

... Oh, Fans just wanna have Fun, ... and, ... -- ... we're Tefler-man-i-acs, ... --- ... and we're crazy to the Max, ... Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! .... ;-) ttfn

Wozza

Merry Xmas Tefler, I hope you and yours have a happy and healthy festive season and new year.

Steven Allen

I wonder if the author is still writing. If not, well it was good while it lasted.

Dean Lee

Now I’m really worried. Will check daily. Hope you guys make the best of the holidays.

Evan

Tefler, I hope that you’re doing well, or at least better, and I wanted to wish you and your family the most joyous of holidays.

Michael56Smith

... in the immortal words of Alfred E, Newman, "What, me worry?" ;-) ttfn

Malcolm Rickarby

To everyone in the Three Square Meals community I wish you a merry Christmas 🎄 and an entertaining new year.✨🌝🎄

Unctadsk

Happy New year all my Co-readers. Let's hope to Santa Tefler starts release of writing.

Randy

Merry Christmas to all. God's blessing to you and especially to Tefler and family. He is alive, believe

Michael56Smith

comment count #.876: Hey guys and dolls, there are still a few days left in the year, do we have any takers on whether Santa Tef starts out the new year in a wonderfully TSM way? beginning with the completed chapter #164, ,,, oh well, that's what I thought, ... so, have a Happy New Year everyone, ... ;-) ttfn

Tom Ray

I was hoping that something would happen. the closer it gets to the end of year, my hopes are being dashed......

Jim lynch

He couldn’t give a shite about his Patreon if he did he would have told us what was wrong or got his wife to type out a response from him. But oh no it’s fook all for us since the end of August what a prick.

Aldo

To start first with this....i really really hope all is well with Tefler...second i would like to propose this....since Tefler has manoeuvred himself in a position that he needs to write 4 chapters until he can benefit again from new chapters... I am ok that he catches up with short stories... That will enable him to quickly close the gap and start earning again.... Let's start positive !!! Maybe he is a little miffed by all the negativity after giving soooo much... After all he HAS delivered 164 episodes of work that i have seen nowhere else... The man is talented. And talent needs to be nurtured ...so please please *if* he comes back welcome him with positivity... Best wishes for the new year

AusLoki

i'm as miffed with the lack of communication and lack of delivery. i still supported him by purchasing the e-books that i was able to first read for free as part of my patreon sign up.

Ingo Klinter

Well Well well. Looks like i was right about his reappearence not before 2024

Technomage

haha, maybe his ghostwriter quit, and he hasn't found a new one? /sarcasm

Newnotsure

Wow guys give it a break stuff like this he may never get back to writing , encouragement is what he needs now.

David Fraley

Guys, this writing is pretty profitable. I would be shocked if he stopped on purpose. He is likely very ill or has passed. Hopefully he is able to get back writing when his health permits.

Newnotsure

So I finally read the last part chapter I have not ever read part chapters now I hope Tefler gets the next chapter posted

tony

i am starting to worry, has tefler abandoned TSM, not saying anything since august has me concerned that TSM won't ever be finished

Technomage

There is one other possible excuse, besides being dead or just ran away, it could be that he is incarcerated. I am pretty sure the 'one phone call' rule doesn't apply to sending a note that he may enjoying "Three Square Meals" at the gray bar hotel. again, /sarcasm

Malcolm Rickarby

Happy new year2024. Only eight hundred and forty two years until we can find out how the battle went from Jehanna ?

Cignal

Happy New Year Tefler and everyone else. Tefler, I hope you and your family are all ok. Reagan always talked about the silent majority. You have that here also. There is a minimum number of whinners. The rest support you.

MJHSharkbait365

Has anyone seen Literotica today. A new author named Boundlessumers’s has posted a remake of Tefler’s TSM chapter 1. No idea if he/she has Tefler’s permission

Drew

Happy New Year, Tefler. I hope things are turning around for you. Thank you for a great book, and I hope you return to it in 2024.

Rhys

Happy New Year Tefler, Hope things are getting better for you!

Evan

Tefler, best wishes to you and your family for a Healthy, Joyous and Prosperous New Year. We miss you and we wish you all the best. Thank you for everything you’ve given us in 2023 and previous years! We have hope for more in 2024 and going forward.

TF007

Happy New Years!!!!! F5♾️

Unctadsk

Happy New year. Can anybody inform us in which universe Tefler is still continuing TSM. In which universe he is healthy, alive and writing great stories.....What is the pathway to that Uni....

Johnkr

Happy new year

Tom Ray

well for me, the new year coming and going tells me that Tef is done. either by choice or by passing...

Heinz Molck

A Happy New Year to you, Tefler. I hope you are doing well!

Michael Cummings

I had hoped that Tefler would post at least the finish of 164. It seems to me that the life of TSM as we know it has possibly ended and the need to find someone to finish the saga!! I'll not hold my breath on that thought as it would take a writer of great talent to do so in the style of Tefler.

Rhys

I choose to hope, hope that Telfer will come back someday. Some people are miffed at his silence, okay, there are other creators on this site who charged more, delivered less, vanished without a word and still left their patreons active and charging their subscribers. Tefler didn't do that, gave us quality for a really reasonable price and turned charging off when he felt he couldn't deliver. So I will hope, hope that someday this wonderful story will be concluded by its author, that I can one day say, Thank you Tefler! Thank you for a story for me when I needed it.

donald abbott

I think it's done, Really a great story, but life happens, I still check back hoping for an update. Thanks for a really great story, sad to see it never had the ending it deserved, but the same happened with Vanessa Ravencroft, and I really miss her stories as well.

Vizth Hal

Well we know for a fact Faye was coming back. At least we got that.

Newnotsure

So I have page booked marked I will be deleting it and wait for a email saying Tefler has posted an new chapter good by see you when Tefler has posted again. Happy New Years to all. I hope you all have a very prosperous year ahead.

Cerestine writes

Happy New Year everyone. I have decided to go back and read the series from the start again. I am missing a chapter and cannot find it here. In particular, I am looking for Chapters 104. The files go back to 101 onwards. It killing me to me missing this 1 file. really wrecking my OCD and ADHD :)

Sam Holder

I will come back in 6 months and see if anything has changed...

Trimtab

I hope your health is recovering, and that you and your family are doing okay Tefler! 2023 was really rough on you, but all your fans are praying that 2024 is infinitely better!! Yes, we are of course very eager to hear more of John Blakes tale. But i think most of us simply wish you well, wherever you are right now, and hope you arent stressing out over the past due chapters. Many of us would gladly forgive you that debt. But God bless and all the best for this new year. ♥️

Jennifer P

I have read numerous storylines and have had authors just drop them, but what bothers me is they don't tell you they quit or family does not pass info if something happened. Hope this is just temporary but if anyone knows anything on Tefler please post it.

Joe Waldvogel

As I expected, another month, a new year and nothing!!! Tefler must be dead! There is no other excuse as to why you would treat your paying customers like this. A writer who can’t even post one sentence. It sucks the story ended where it did. It sucks we have no idea who this person really was and may never know what happened.

Jim lynch

If he ain’t dead then fuck him he obviously doesn’t give a flying fuck about the people paying his wages but as of Monday morning I will be getting in touch with Patreon for my stolen money back.

Dean Lee

I’m disappointed and yet I want to keep hoping that he’s ok and that Tefler doesn’t end here. That his story continues and that TSMs hiatus is a sign of something wonderful that’s being worked on.

Bill

I hope Tefler hasn't died. If so I hope someone will be able to pick up this story and finish it.

Keepit simple

Socialized medicine....went in for gallbladder surgery and came out armless. Seriously though wish Tef well. Enjoyed his story and wish it would continue. I have a)ready played out that Fey was reborn/born and got to view the marvel of her "children".

tony

say what ? am i being accused of something ? whining?? being somebody's alt account (i'm not btw) ??? my gawd,let me just duck out of the way of the flying turds, besides i am in no mood to engage in a flame war (mic drop-with force)

tony

Joe Waldvogel said this to i guess me ....? Where is Tefler? How did I lose? I’m 100% right. At this point, Tefler is dead. Keep making excuses for a writer who can’t write one sentence in months. You are the one who lost the argument., ny reply is this: since when did i ever make any excuses and what argument are you talking about, make sure whom you are addressing please, i don't have time or patience for a flame war.

Myrnalin

Its easy to see how good the story was, all the reactions in both end of the support-scale. From down right abusive to hopeful and supportive. I am so glad I can block the whiners and abusers I hope tefler does the same.

Shaqjor477

Just finally got caught up to what seems likely to be the end. Even if the author is no longer reading anything, its important to honor the amazing world he created, and the stories within. While I wish he had the chance to finish, what he accomplished was amazing! To Tefler, wherever he may be, cheers, and Thanks!

Marc Ben-Rubin

The story has been amazing and I really hope this is not the end. There seems to be another hundred chapters and so many story lines that this could go on for years. I started back from the beginning half a dozen times and it still thrills me...Fuck it, I'm going to read it again!

David Bremer

Sad to say, I am thinking this is the end of his story. He is either passed away or so severely disabled that he can’t communicate. He has family. If he were in any state to communicate, he could ask a family member to post a simple update.

PLRus--Founding member of the TSM F5 club.

I read some comments here that seem to mean we are paying for a product rather than paying to support a writer. The difference is more than semantics. While a charge is put out for published chapters, that is not required. Tefler can charge per month whether or not he produces a chapter. That means you are not paying for a product but paying to support an author. The author's choice to not charge you without a chapter posting notwithstanding. This is why, when someone complained to Patreon, Tefler decided to just walk away. He is under no obligation to post another chapter nor is he obliged to pay back any monies he charged for chapters not yet released. Something about cutting off your nose to spite one's face comes to mind for the one(s) who complained to Patreon.

Kelly Averett

It clearly states on the site that the charge is per chapter.

Cignal

Patreon was created as a means for people to support creative people, so their products or material could be shared. It wasn't a guarantee of any product but a way to maybe see what people could produce. So there is no guarantee of product. Patreon setup different ways to support. When Tefler first started he was producing 3 chapters per month with a fairly simple story without may threads or complication, so he probably thought it was a good way of support, not realizing what was to come as the story got more complicated. He could have selected to go with per month at the time, but he probably thought he wouldn't have trouble producing chapters. Little did he know how complicated the story would become. Many of you know how complicated it has become. He has stated that he doesn't want to repeat scenarios in the story, which makes the story really hard to write as it takes extra time to come up with new scenarios as a lot get used up. So as the story is getting more complicated to write, his health deteriorating, domestic responsibilities increasing, and then his so called supporters here start whining and demanding product on a site that was created to support the author, not guarantee the creation of product, I think you can see why he has disappeared. He was burned out. The complexities of the story are a lot more now than when he started Patreon. I can see that by keeping track of the timeline. His family is needing him more. His health was deteriorating. Then when he needed support his so called supports were demanding he produce for them, not asking or supporting. I can understand why he is not here. I do hope he comes back after things cool down and he doesn't just walk away. He has stated in 2020 that he was writing TSM for HIS enjoyment, not the supporters and could walk away at any time. There is a link on Discord if you want to see his comments. I just hope that his disappearance isn't permanent. Those of you that think you deserve product are not supporting the author and are not true Patreon members.

HillCountryCowboy

Xexsu, are you honestly comparing the effort to write a 10,000 word, interesting, complicated, convoluted chapter with the struggle to pay $1?

HillCountryCowboy

Did anyone who is whining about pre-paid chapters go back and pay Tefler for all the chapters they read before Tefler started on Patreon? Did anyone pay for every chapter posted on Patreon they had access to that was posted before they joined Patreon? No, there’s no ethical requirement to pay for anything before you committed to, but it’s ridiculous, petty, ungrateful and selfish to not recognize everything you got for free, and then whine about three or four dollars. Some people would whine if they were hung with a new rope. Honestly, every last one of us has gotten much, much more than they paid for. I hope Tefler is well, resting, and some point in the future feels renewed and his muse moves him to share more of his tale. But he doesn’t owe anyone anything.

MVFast

Maliri fleets… What to do… what to do… what to do with them? They are acquiring Larn’s fleets. These will be the new default. Will the ‘old’ upgraded fleets be sent to the lesser houses to replace their ‘original’ fleets? Will the original fleets be decommissioned? The original Maliri fleets could be de-rated (remove the Nova Lance) and give them to Terra. That would help them match up against the Enshunu/Brimorians.

Unctadsk

Dear Team, we discussed with Tefler when he left his steady job to join patreon and write full time many pros and con's. Please find that discussion on literotica still there. We still believe in him, his writing skills. We understand his writer's block before critical wars. But if someone gives promises continuously but fail to deliver, and then went incommunicado, In any countries law it is not good example. Even his coterie still doesn't publish the unpublished chapters in Literotica and SOL. Still if Tefler come back with good chapters all will be forgotten by all. Let's see who have good and cool brain.

raymond sisko

Well, I for one have thoroughly enjoyed the story so far. Gotten much enjoyment with the whole space and alien theme. I looked forward to seeing what John and the girls were up to each month. It put a smile on my face to read it. Not so much into the sex, but the plot and intricacies of the storyline were phenomenal. Not against the sex as its important to the plot line, but I just thoroughly enjoyed the story. Personally I hope Tefler is okay and is doing well. I do understand getting burnout and stepping away from a project to gain fresh perspective. Be well Tefler and I hope to see more of your writing. You are truly talented and a great storyteller. I will patiently wait for your next chapter if you so choose to write one.

Steve Bennett

I'm not so sure if he is still alive. gall stone and gall blader infections can lead to death if they burst, inside you so I've Beem told.

Mark Adkins

I continue to hope that things will turn out OK for Tefler But I admit that I am disheartened by how many words I follow who have passed away or just stopped for whatever reason. Two others I enjoyed in the long-form sci-fi category have died.

MVFast

Me again, trying to keep us focused on the story (and hoping for Tefler to be well, and get past anything blocking his writing). Future skills for the crew. They all need to be able to create shields. Well, probably the nymphs won’t need to! Basic hand to hand combat would be good since psychic inhibitors are a possibility. Thralls probably wouldn’t be as physically capable as the girls, but many would be able to fight. The thralls in every progenitor’s fleets are likely to be soldiers. Shields are made of hexagons. An individual hexagon could be thought of as a shuriken and could be sent flying at an enemy like Alyssa does with knives. More to come.

Woodrobin

Note: I sincerely hope that PLRus is a liar. But this is presented for what it's worth. "This is why, when someone complained to Patreon, Tefler decided to just walk away. He is under no obligation to post another chapter nor is he obliged to pay back any monies he charged for chapters not yet released." PLRus, apparently speaking on behalf of Tefler, presuming to speak on behalf of Patreon, and claiming that people who were charged for chapters using a placeholder posting that promised the chapters and apologized for charging for them without posting them don't have any right to the chapters they were promised in the very message that generated the charge for them. "By the way, the last communication I had with him was on November 18, 2023. So he seems to be alive and well." PLRus, claiming to have a back channel to communicate with Tefler, and admitting on Tefler's behalf that Tefler ghosted his Patreon supporters deliberately, not even confirming to them that he's in good health after repeated pleas to at least let people know he's okay, even if for whatever reason there's no forward progress on his stories.

Woodrobin

$23,568. At the $7,586 per chapter Patreon lists as his level of payment, that is how much money Tefler received from his Patreon supporters for placeholder posts that promised that chapters (the production of which he decided to use as the basis for receiving money from Patreon) would be produced. I know people who work for a whole year and are lucky to end up with that much money in their paychecks. It was just $3 or $6 or maybe $15 from each supporter, but it adds up to a nice chunk of money for three empty promises and a ghosting. If there was communication (even just a "I'm alright after my surgeries, but I feel like I need to take a break from writing TSM for a while. I will eventually get the promised chapters out, but I can't promise when. I'll process refunds if you don't want to wait and you don't want to be a supporter anymore.") that would be one thing. I would never want to rag on a writer with writers' block. But common decency and respect for the people who have put their money where there mouth is supporting your work is not too much to expect, and is not less than is deserved.

20 ton

Turning a passion or hobby into a job often causes problems with motivation and interest. Happened to me when I went to work for my favorite athletic department. I went from rarely missing a basketball or baseball game to not going unless I was working. Took years regain most of the interest. I haven’t gone deep into Tef’s early comments but most authors on Lit are looking for an outlet and a chance to hone their craft. It was put there for free and allowed for his writing abilities to flourish. He gained an audience which created a base for him to choose going professional. He chose to leave his job for his passion which would not have been remotely possible without him sharing his talent for free. Why else would they give free samples at Costco or bakeries. I certainly gained as I as drawn into this world having reread it several times and spent hours speculating and Monday morning quarterbacking. My problem isn’t the few dollars withdrawn from my account, it’s that he has followed a pattern of several people that have screwed me for money. First I was aware of prepaying was fixing the roof. Very humbly asking and promising never again. Latter it came easier and easier with less then no by your leave. Ten minutes after dropping a chapter and for me in the middle of the night. Many have echoed what I believe has become a justification that he is owed for those early free chapters. That wasn’t the deal and isn’t an honest or fair justification after the fact. People aren’t upset by the amount, our time and personal involvement with the characters and story lines is what has been taken from us. A couple days is now 4.5 months. There is no honor in taking money and then backing out on providing the agreed upon work. John would never consider it , I hope Tef’s ability to write about it means he understands and believes it. We all, regardless of what we feel about this situation, want Tef to get past the hard times concerning his health and family issues. If you have lived long enough you have lived through some measure of hard times. The total lack of contact on this platform is the real slap in the face to people that have developed a long distance thread of a relationship. I’m greedy and hope he gets this situation resolved, fulfills his promises and moves on towards a place where this is a profitable side passion and not WORK. Many of us also love Burntredstone but you only see requests and not the pressures of fulfilling an obligation.

rich ed

Any one kind enough to share the link for Recurvee's Max Melonie story. Computer blew up and are having issues locating it again. Thanks in advance

TF007

F5 ♾️

MVFast

Although there is a bit of avarice and corruption in the outer rim colonies, that might be a good place to send some “old” Maliri ships. They don’t have the facilities or skills to build more, nor the resources to pay others to secretly do so. As long as they aren’t given enough to be a threat to the T-Fed, that would provide them with self defense.

JP

Tefler created a world that is unique, interesting, and engaging. Paying someone with talent that I could never achieve on my own is worth a few extra dollars. I’ve wasted a lot more affirming my interest in multiple failed sports teams. - Patiently waiting for the next chapter Thank you Tefler for the hours of enjoyment you have already given.

Tom Ray

Tefler, please resume the story. thanks

Walter Davis

I hope you are well and your family is as well. Patiently waiting for the next segment of this series and ready to support you Tefler!!

Greg Pate

While I get the frustration the negative comments are a big reason he hasn't posted anything. Personally I would have responded with a F U. Tefler is a very talented writer. Really hope at some point he continues. But as I suffered through the same condition I get it. As far a the charges for those 4 chapters, get real. Your crying about $4.. Try writing a story, putting up with criticism and going through pain that's so bad that you can't stand up. To Tefler, I hope that your health is improving and I want you to know that not everyone is jumping on the whining bandwagon. Best wishes

Reau Reau

Lol cool, so it's been a year since i decided this isn't worth following; it looks like in that time he published 3.5 chapters, and the debt has increased to 4.5. Let's face it: for watever reason, Tefler's done with this. I mean hell, why else would you leave 7 months worth of additional income on the table. But people leaning too heavy into "theft" are wrong too. If that was the intention, or if i was him. I'd just reduce wordcount by 50% or more, stop proof-reading or doing any kind of continuity checks, and just crank out first-drafts. Couple days of that, then pre-charge for 4-5 chapters at once, and BYE. Wouldn't catch me dead posting updates for a year. Let's hear it for the supporters: maybe he decided to release em all at once to "show em". GL!

Robar

I’ve been through this. He’s dead! Fuck

Randy

So comments show nothing favorable about Tefler. Yes no news in this case is not a good sign, it would just be nice to know the status. It should be done with care and concern for the person and not bickering by the followers. We hope for a positive responce. With respect.

Sam Holder

As I mentioned previously, I contacted Patreon Help who indicated they don't have a way to reach out to an author to determine their health or status, and have no plans on creating such a capability. They also indicated that any refunds are solely at the Author's discretion.

Studley Destiny

I don't care about the money. I just hope Tefler is on the mend and will be able to continue eventually!

Ian Kennedy

Yeah, five months without a peep is a bit long. The LEAST he could do would be to post health updates every 1-2 months, just so his supporters know he's still alive. At least we know how the story eventually ends, thanks to Kin Asdi writing "The Xin'arax Legend". It doesn't explain how the side stories end (like Tom Walker, the Brimorians and Abandoned, etc), thinking they'd be part of the main story, but at least the Invictus crew find ONE uncorrupted Progenitor and help him escape, then a decade later they FINALLY take out Xar'aziuth and free the astral plane. (If you haven't read it you can find a .DOC version in the 'Pinned Messages' of the #FanFiction page on the Discord site, as that's where I downloaded it from.) There's also another story by Kin Asdi called 'The Amazing Tale of Janet' set 200 years in the future of TSM

Dean Lee

Let’s not make it hard for him to remember his passion. Na-mas-te

Marcus Riccitti

Every time the end of the month nears I cross my fingers..

TF007

F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️

Cignal

Just so you guys know, Tefler has recently renamed himself on Discord. The good news is he is alive. The bad news is that he appears to be distancing himself from TSM.

Newnotsure

I guess it said he left don't add anything we don't know for sure

tony

get well soon tefler, hope to hear something from you whenever you have time.

Mike Sarap

I really enjoy reading TSM. With the way everything is going it is a great escape. I hope Tef recovers from his ills and continues the story. I'll keep checking to see if he submits more.

Mark Strom

If Tefler has abandoned TSM, then we should pick it up for 4.5 chapters and end it properly. A grand battle scene where Faye is reborn as a Kythfaren. So it seems as if abadoment is the issue then we should do a hostile takeover. Everyone needs to put there bruised egos away.

RF5 Flyer

Dear Tefler, I hope you are in better health than your last mail. I, for one, have never read a more intriguing story. You have the gift of a story teller with an unfinished story. I do not, as everyone else, know why you have stopped publishing your story but I plead that you return to the pen and keep us on the edge of our seats. If, by any chance, someone has upset you then please remember that there are thousands of loyal followers just waiting to continue reading about John and the girls. I cannot stress hard enough that there are always a microscopic minority who want to spoil it for the rest. Please ignore them and remember your loyal followers. All the best from one of those followers of an intriguing story. Scudrunner.

MVFast

F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ Tefler Fan 007, I hope you don’t mind me copying that!

Greg Hill

No space battles here, but if you have Kindle Unlimited, and you like grand sweeping epics, then you'll love Dennis McKiernan's :"Eye Of The Hunter", and once you finish that you'll want to go directly into it's sequel: "Silver Wolf, Black Falcon (a novel of Mithgar)...after that you'll be a fan of McKiernan for life, 'I Guarantee'! Which is good because he has a plethora of books about the world of Mithgar...but those two and "Voyage Of The Fox Rider" are the best imo, but others might disagree...they're wonderful books if you like action and adventure, discussions about the gods and free will, morality and immorality...full of world spanning adventures ...dragons, elves, dwarves, foul folk, hobbit like Waerlinga...just a great universe he(McKiernan) formed...

Michael56Smith

.311: to Tefler: ...oh, where oh where are you tonight? ... why did you leave me here all alone, ...? ... I searched the world over and thought I found true love, ... ,,, but you met another, and Pssst you was gone, .... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.312: ... Hey! it worked, . Tef dropped the completed chapter #164 on 02/03/2024, .... wow, ... I guess I need to sing more, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.311: So, I'll stick to singing in the shower for now, .... :-)

Nathos

Our lord and saviour has returned. For real I hope you're well and putting your health and wellbeing first Tefler. Meeting the demands of hundreds is never easy, but looking after yourself and your loved ones comes first.

Greg Hill

"Our lord and saviour has returned."...yep, no cult here, keep it moving!

Michael56Smith

.314: YAY! Tef's back, ... (Feb 3rd) ... -- let's see, .314 times TSM equals six months with no updates, that's quite a long time without any information, ... so, spill, come on, tell us, ... ;-) ttfn