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Question- Character Cooldowns? (Patreon)

Published:
2023-03-02 18:55:59
Imported:
2026-06

Poll

Question- Character Cooldowns?

  • Yes 233
  • No 44
  • 2023-03-02
  • 277 votes
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Content

Hey all! If you haven't caught it yet, the animation for February is finished and up in the usual places; the painting is still being worked on (apparently I didn't plan my time well!) but should be finished by the end of the day. But, I have a question I've been thinking about asking. I'm starting to notice more and more complaints about the lack of variety in the characters being chosen for these monthly artings, and you have to admit it's hard to argue, especially in the animations... we see an awful lot of BFCT, dragon, wolfguy, over and over, and while I do like working with all those characters, it wouldn't hurt to see some of the others pop up more often. Is it time to shake things up and introduce a cooldown on characters chosen for the animation and painting? Note that this is info gathering rather than a strict poll. If it overwhelmingly goes one way or the other than I'll probably just follow the results, but if it's fairly balanced I'll more... "take it under consideration", if that makes sense. The exact details would probably be worked out over time, but should be fairly simple; something like, any character used in an animation can't be put forward in suggestions for the next month, or maybe two. It would take some trial and error to get things feeling just right I think. 

I don't know if this will actually solve much, but it's an easy place to start at least. Think carefully before you vote, because if this does go into place it would mean that characters you want to see more of could never go on a lucky streak either. Anyone used would always be out for the next cycle or two.So, what do you think? Cooldowns, yes or no? Is this a serious problem, or a couple of squeaky wheels? Only one way to find out! Also feel free to voice thoughts or other ideas in the comments if you wish!

Comments

rylie

So into this. You have so many great, well designed and mega hot characters and it’d be great to see them all much more often in rotation

Direkitsune

I like the idea of cool downs, allows for more diversity and inspires more ideas. Otherwise you might end up with the same thing over and over. Another idea is if some ideas keep popping up but get passed over, weigh them higher each time they get passed over so they can have a higher chance

James

My only concerns are that once a character comes off of cooldown, they will be voted for regardless of if the idea is the best idea, or that when they come off of cooldown there will be overwhelmingly many ideas submitted for that character. That said I think its a good idea and worth trying.

Knotty Sergal

Imma say cooldowns on everyone else except BFCT. Because. BFCT = boss

Ruaidri

It's definitely a highly imperfect solution, but it's also extremely easy to implement and understand for everyone involved, and also easy to un-implement if it causes problems or ends up not solving things. So it seems like a good place to start!

BananasTheLeech

Boy that's interesting. Cooldowns could just kick the can down the road when it comes to who gets picked. BFCT, Wolfguy, Dragon, Gale, Runo, it's going to make a circle again. Where now you can have two months of BFCT, now you are just adding space between who gets picked. If you only do one or two months, you run the risk of the same cycle, but now instead of nearly monthly, it's a circle of the same characters. Maybe a basis? So the most popular characters have a longer cooldown than less used? I'm all for seeing Adhina some more. BFCT has to wait three months, wolfguy four, but birdie or Adhina can be picked two months in a row before getting a cooldown. Though that could make BFCT as much a rarity as Adhina is now.

Anonymous Donator

You'll like him even more if you miss him for a while. ;)

Ruaidri

I've heard ideas like that before, and honestly I'm not sure how I feel about it. Fundamentally I like the idea of everyone having a shot at getting their suggestions in eventually, but in practice I'm not sure it's a great idea. Do we really want ideas that very few people actually like to be able to 'war of attrition' their way into winning? I'm not definitely saying no, but it doesn't feel like the right approach to me, personally.

Ruaidri

That's definitely my main concern with this idea, and honestly I pretty much expect that's what'll happen, but it's such an easy thing to implement that it's worth giving a try anyway. As for making cooldowns vary per character, that's getting into a bit more complexity than I think I'd like. I do want to keep things fairly simple overall so people know what they're getting into when they support me. Also that would give me a lot to keep track of and I'd rather spend my time making smut, haha.

Direkitsune

I don't think just any should, but if you have a consistent runner up or something I think it could work. Though I think cool down works alot better, I just brought it up because it is another avenue

BananasTheLeech

I think it wouldn't be too hard to make something in Excel that tracks that and makes a list of cooldowns or something. If I come up with something better or more to talk about, I'll let you know.

Eddy SanHusky

There have been many times I liked the situation, but voted against it because I wanted another character to get some love for a change

Knotty Sergal

NOOOO NEVER. BFCT is like Renamon to me. NEVER get tired of seeing them.

Sentharn

There are so many unique characters available and I get tired of seeing the same subset. No offense to them of course. Even the best TV show has guest actors and side episodes. There are lots of comments discussing weighing which is an interesting variation. No idea how things will shake out but I can tell you that, personally, the potential for characters I like to actually get chosen for once is one factor that made me bump up my membership tier. Ymmv of course.

Scotia

I miss seeing many of your characters! And I'd commission animations with them myself just to see them. (but also because they're hot) I see the concerns about the rotating cooldowns still allowing for the popular few, but we can test and see.

Ratatosky

Maybe you could have a rotation of what characters can be used each month. Just save up the suggestions, and put them up when its that character's turn. More popular characters can show up more often.

Dakgnol

I'd say it's worth trying out. It sounds like you want to have the chance to use more of your cast, and if you're vibing with the idea, it wouldn't hurt giving it a go and seeing the results. Nothing's stopping you from not going forward with it if its causing issues. Plus if you end up making a new character or updating a model or whatever and you yourself really want to use it more, nothing's stopping you from breaking your own rules ;3

Lavan

Isn't that basically all cooldowns would do? Either the cooldowns are to short and it just gets rotated between a few popular ones which is basically all that happens now or the cooldowns are long enough that eventually they're all on cooldown and you're at that war of attrition. If you feel like something is being overdone then just pull it from the polls but I wouldn't try to make hard rules about it.

Direkitsune

Is that to me or Ruaidri?

Lavan

You might do some polling on why different things did/didn't get chosen, I know alot of times there are characters that I wouldn't mind seeing but I wasn't a fan of the scenario that went with it.

Sentharn

that's a really good point...it's usually the scenario that i dislike more than the chars

Bloudin Ruo

I think it's a good idea! I've stated previously that I think more direction on content is a good thing, like introducing themes for the suggestions or character requirements. This idea approaches it from the other direction, but accomplishes a similar goal--To spread out character usage and content suggestions from month to month. This has my support!

Sentharn

I take back what I said. It's not characters so much as scenarios/topics that I get tired of. But that gets real nebulous real fast. "Failed hunt" is the perennial example and that's concrete. "Character X getting stuffed up the butt by Y in [insert scenario here]" is vague but popular, and locks out Nidhala. (Obligatory mention that failed hunt basically locks out ALL of your more interesting characters.) No idea where to draw the line. Good luck though. :P

Sentharn

I'd love to see more Original Ruaidri IP (tm) work in the future, so direction/themes would be really cool to see!

Sentharn

Honestly yeah, there are some things that came up repeatedly that I'd love to see. Yeah, it's a small group of people getting their way over time. How's that any less unfair from a small group of people (suggesters) getting their way all the time? Philosophically, anyway. Practically it does sound like a mess lol.

BananasTheLeech

What about a limit on the cast that can be chosen from? Instead of all of your characters, only half have a chance of being on the list to be chosen from. Their chances of randomly being on the list depends on how often they've appeared in previous months content. Everybody starts at 10, and every month they gain 1, and each time they are chosen for content, they lose 1. Out of all your characters only ten can be on the list, chosen by chance, the higher the characters number, the more likely they will appear on the list to be picked from.

Steve

Still waiting for the purple lizard to get hypnoed by birdie, but dragon and amethyst kept winning.

TheFleta

I joined to vote on the cute birb, i'll be happy to see him in some stuff at last.

PsyMar

Maybe a smaller change to start, like no character in more than two animations/paintings in a row?

Jackson triggs

Cant wait to see some of the lesser known characters again.

Gamer Vane

Totally fine idea, variety is always fun! even if the characters or scenarios aren't my "faves" I still dig your style and appreciate the heck out of it.

Iridius, Trash Dragon

definitely yes, I joined the patreon because of one of your lesser-known characters. still hoping to see that gryphon again someday 👀

N.B. Eskerata

The only crime an artist can ever commit is the crime of being boring. Most of your animations, for example, are a mile above 99% of the boring grot that I see on E621. Give characters like BFCT a break and let's see the Ferret and the Gryphon get busy.

Caerdwyn

I'd definitely like to see some variety. As good as it is to put up ideas from Patrons (especially the high-tier), it's the same people. They're going to ask for the same kinks, the same characters, consistently because it's their favorite.

Fal Chavamee

Yes, but I don't think characters should be limited too strictly. If a character is used for two cycles in a row that's fair I think. Especially if they are new. If they do go for two cycles or show up in both the animation and painting, then remove them from the vote to cooldown for a few cycles to allow variety. Also, I think it's fair to say that the people here enjoy your flavor of ideas so if you personally feel something is being overdone you should make executive decisions without fear of backlash. Chances are your gut feeling is right. Voting is nice but mob rule is not. You can employ reason to break up the mob. And why not take it a step further. What if there is an animation idea or drawing idea that you really want to do for yourself. Maybe do one for you on occasion and share it.

knedit

yes, please, and please allow a break from FH stuff too, it just writes off the image poll every time its submitted

Jan B.

I think some form of this is needed as the recent themes / characters have been a tad too repetitive and I miss the creativity and variety of the earlier animations. However as have been noted above, strict rules might backfire and you might end up in a repetitive cycle or facing unhappy people. If you can influence what topics do get picked for the voting, by just "filtering" this selection would allow you to influence the direction while allowing people to have their say.

Jan B.

I like the idea of giving the runner-ups a chance - the tail end of the curve should not attrition their way in, but ideas that place in the higher end of the curve for couple rounds but don't beat the BFCT might deserve some love.

Jaye Ventus

Honestly, going through with implementing something like this gives you the chance to go back and revisit old polls. I know there's a lot of great ideas in there that I'd like for to have a second chance (And I do agree with Knelt. While I do love ho you've developed the Failed Hunt setting, it might also need to be given a cooldown of sorts)

Ruaidri

Well, it's pretty clear -something- should happen given the comments in this post, hah. I'll start with this idea, a simple cooldown, and adjust from there if it seems like it's not doing much.

Ruaidri

Hah, well thank you. :P Yeah, let's give it a try and see what happens.

Harry_Hirsch

Maybe some sort of rolling cooldown? Like a character can't be more than 2 times in the last 4 animations or something like that?

Sentharn

I like the idea of looking back at old polls for good ideas! The suggestion thread just opened so imma go browse back for inspiration 👀

Ruaidri

Perhaps! Gonna start with the simplest case of just a simple cooldown, and then fiddle with it from there if necessary.

Ma'Jeera

I think its fine, but, variation is good, every character deserves a moment in the spotlight :3

Justin Carpenter

I want to see you, creating what you love to create. I want you to feel free to go wherever your own inclination takes you, and speaking purely for myself, I'd be happiest if you felt completely and utterly encouraged to create whatever you felt like creating, from day to day. I don't like the idea of standing between you and your creative process. You do you. You *keep* doing you. You doing you is why I'm here in the first place.

Ruaidri

Aw, well thank you. :D With the way things are set up here I'm a little beholden to whatever the suggestors want me to make, but I retain enough creative control over things to keep it fun and interesting, so we're mostly still getting the full Ru experience, hah!