Home
Creators
Search Recent Random
Posts
Search DMs Popular Hash Lookup Tags Random
Importer
Import FAQ
Register Favorites Keys Review DMs Logout
Community
Telegram ThePornDude
Home Creators Posts Import Register Favorites Logout

Jubilee & Cancel Culture - A Therapist's Perspective (Patreon)

Published:
2022-01-26 02:16:58
Imported:
2026-06
Tags:
haven't archived this post yet. have a subscription? use the importer!

Content

Here are some thoughts inspired by a video on the Youtube channel Jubilee about that thing people refer to as "cancel culture." Hope you find it interesting!

Files

Previews only

Jubilee & Cancel Culture - A Therapist's Perspective

Live streams: https://www.twitch.tv/whatstherapy Main channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj2oGgifnseTWw2NgLezs2A Original Jubilee video: "Should We Cancel Celebrities for Their Crimes? | Middle Ground" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5ePvuDm5Is&t=637s

Comments

Luca Bernasconi

I am Italian, i don't know the people talkin in the video but we have had quite a debate going on abut cancel culture, but, if i have to be true, i dont quite understand what it is. If i got that correctly an artist calls himself a victim of cancel culture when he thinks he is being outcasted not because of his art but because his ideas, even those ideas that are explicitly embodied in a particular creative work. If things are like i understood them i think the artist who calls himself a victim is just playing a marketing game to be the victim and promoting hisself in that way. I say this because i think the artist in point is not treating his audience with all due respect, by not assuming they are able to appreciate the good work he does and be mislead by someone who says they shouldnt listen to him\watch his art because he's mean, he has done bad things and such. I heard your point about crimes, i may not have got it correctly as i am not a native speaker, but i dont even think that the criminal record of an artist are a good way to measure his works. they may or may not help in being popular, as art is always a product of its times, but hey... Caravaggio was a murder, killing people is bad, at whatever times, so should i say caravaggio is not a good painter? truth is, in my opinion, that the beautiful complexity of human people is that one can be a great tennis player, a bad father, a good movie critic a terrible painter, a decent co-worker and a wonderful husband, all at the same time! :) Bottom line: if you can't separate the art from the artist you better watch horse races, because it's well known that animals are better than people! :) Maybe, there is a better example of cancel culture when an institution actually cancels or forbid a cultural or artistic event due to the ideas of the artist\perfomer. We have unfortunately had examples of that in Italy even in recent times, when an university in Milan (Università di Milano - Bicocca) cancelled a conference about russian literature to be held in his campus by a notable professor (Paolo Nori). We have had similar episodes at other cultural institutions where we saw the political authorities calling for russian professionals to take public distance, expressing their opinions against the war in Ukraine, from the government of their homeland and Vladimir Putin's politics. My opinion is that such things should not take place as art\culture and politics should not melt too much. Artistic creations are always a product of their times, and of the zeitgeist. Austrian secessionist painters used to say: die zeit ihre kunst die kunst ihre freiheit, meaning to each time its own art, to art its freedom. Art is a product of the times, yes, but should remain free. Free from interferences by the political power, but obviously subject to the taste of the public. As you correctly put it: if that comedian does or doesnt make me laugh your word probably wont change my mind, as it's a matter of personal emotion.

What's Therapy
>>89291521

Really interesting thoughts! I think part of what's confusing about 'cancel culture' is it refers to numerous different ideas at once, some of which are reasonable, and some less so. So the idea of separating the art from the artist definitely makes sense, but of course it also makes sense for institutions and platforms to have public pressure to avoid sponsoring artists or pundits or whatever when the public doesn't want to see any more of them. Could the person still be making good stuff? Sure, absolutely. Is it 'cancel culture' if they don't get the space they used to have? Seems to me just the winds of public opinion, old as forever. Idk I'm not super articulate at the moment but thanks for leaving your thoughts! I also like that you speak Deutsch I'm trying to learn it better