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June 2024 Mailbag (Patreon)

Published:
2024-06-04 16:00:11
Edited:
2024-06-07 23:59:25
Imported:
2026-06

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Hey everybody!

Oh Boy it's been A MINUTE:

ASK ME ANYTHING!

ASK ME EVERYTHING! ASK ME THINGS! DON'T MAKE ME COME UP WITH QUESTIONS MYSELF—THEY'LL BE WEIRD!

I'll post the link here as always but I'll be live on Friday 6/7 @ 5pm Pacific so submit your questions before then...

LINK: https://youtu.be/_hIvUf2x3Ig

Comments

Lambda Sitta

1. Have you watched the Canadian cop shows, like Pretty Hard Cases, Murdoch Mysteries, Rookie Blue, etc.? Pretty Hard Cases is definitely an interesting watch, kind of like Brooklyn Nine Nine, but more drama than comedy. 2. What are your thoughts on young people becoming police officers to "better the system from the inside"? Do you think copaganda plays a role? 3. What was your favourite interview from the ones you've done so far? 4. What piece of information was the most shocking discovery? 5. What would a "good" cop show even look like? Or should cop shows just not exist?

Lambda Sitta

Hello Red, I think you accidentally replied to my comment when I believe you meant to leave a main one!

RedX2099

Welcome back! Got a lot of questions. 1. I recently did a "powerpoint presentation night" with some friends. One of them did a presentation on this story about cops in the UK infiltrating left wing activist groups and fathering children with some members while lying about their identities. (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2018/oct/15/uk-political-groups-spied-on-undercover-police-list) when we were talking about it he mentioned that the really screwed up thing is that this plays into the "James bond seduction fantasy" we see in media. The idea that seducing a woman under false pretenses is ok because she is "a threat" and you are "serving your country." With this in mind do you think you will do a copaganda about spies and espionage television/movies? I think you mentioned looking into jack ryan before but I can't remember if you decided not to do a video on it or not. 2. I know you mentioned the potential connection between lead pollution and violent crime in the US before and I know I asked about it before. However do you know about the Lead Industries Association? (LIA) it was a group of lead manufacturers who tried to convince people that lead wasn't dangerous and spent money on biased studies ro prove it and worked to pass legislation to manage usage of lead in construction projects kind of like oil companies and climate change! I know you talked about doing a video on tv advertising before and maybe this might spark some ideas even though the LIA did not do tv ads to my knowledge. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/22/us-lead-industry-history-water-crisis) 3. Finally on a lighter note let me ask about x-men! You said you watched x-men 97 and enjoyed it and there has been something on my mind recently regarding the x-men franchise. Does x-men still have relevance/strength as an allegory and if not does that mean it's time to focus on new superhero stories? (Let me explain.) When the x-men debuted in the 60's there was something to be said for making the story a stand ins for the Civil rights movement. It was easier to write about white people with superpowers and use that to comment on racism and prejuduce than it was to write about real life racism towards african americans. But overtime that allegory became more messy and less relevant. Modern x-men writers have acknowledged this and tried to reframe the allegory as being less about race and more about being LGBTQ. However even that aspect gets messy when you consider the fact that marvel tells stories about mutants whose powers are literally "kill someone just by breathing on them." Marvel frequently tries to have it both ways. They want to spread the empowering message that there is nothing wrong or harmful about being different and then tell stories like the one in the ultimate x-men where a kid manifests his mutant gene and his powers kill everyone around him. Flaws like this really holds the x-men back in terms of representation and spcial commentary. Additionally representation has improved and I feel like it just makes more sense to focus on superhero characters who are actual members of minority groups rather than characters whose powers are used to vaguely represent minority groups. In the 60's we couldn't have gay teen superheroes in a long term relationship in comics but now with young avengers, we have Wiccan and hulkling. This is part of why I find the doom patrol more compelling characters. Their team members are explicitly lgbtq+ and that is just treated as another part of their identity as a character on top of them being superheroes. Maybe I'm overthinking it but stories need to evolve to stay relevant and I'm wondering if x-men is increasingky showing it's age.

RedX2099

Yes I did. Used the patreon phone app. Must have glitched. Corrected the error. Thanks

That One French Guy

Hi! Do you think there's a show (or movie) that could be construed as "crimaganda"? Glorifying illegal activities, minimizing its downsides and vilifying/dehumanizing the police? Most crime stories I can think of are built and a "rise and fall" structure, so even though you get to see the protagonist do cool crimes, you also see them lose it all in the end. Maybe The Sopranos? I'd love to hear your opinion on this.

RedX2099

"Crime" is a collection of behaviors and actions that the state has decided merit punishment if they are engaged in. It is not an institution, unlike policing. Police shows regularly show cops committing crimes like performing illegal searches or torturing suspects and glorify those crimes while minimizing their downsides because those crimes are framed by the narrative as being for "the greater good." Many shows and movies glorify immoral behavior unequivocally and romanticize it. But there is not a larger criminal apparatus that gets to fund their own "heroin dealing is heroic!" TV show to compete with the police in "the marketplace of ideas" and get more people to buy heroin. There is not a "criminal/cop" binary at play in the real world. There are merely people who perform immoral actions and the institutions who decided which individuals need to be punished and when to ignore their own established rules. Romanticization of crimes/immoral behavior is not exclusive to shows about the mafia like the sopranos or cops shows like Hawaii five-0.

Matthew Dezii

Thinking back on your first Copaganda videos: if reviewing/assessing the earliest cop shows would be profitable on YouTube, would you watch and/or commentate more old-school cop shows? Are detective/mystery novels Copaganda? Is that problematic? Are there any creators on booktube talking about this?

Sunanda Sharma

In the same vein as some of the other questions about cop shows in the UK and Canada, have you looked into copaganda in non-Western countries?

Kel McDonald

I'm putting this in a reply to Matthew's question because basically my question is this but specially about Discworld's watch books since the Vimes Boots Theory of Economics was quoted in a different video.