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WOW! YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST! (Patreon)

Published:
2019-02-27 22:14:16
Imported:
2026-06

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I can't believe how quickly and thoughtfully you all responded to my question about full length reactions. THANK YOU!

As I was reading the responses, the solution became clear to me: We'll start rolling it out in phases. To begin, I'll post a few full length reactions (minus the intros) and see what you guys think. I just re-read both the Fair Use doctrine and Vimeo and Patreon's policies, and I think we're still within Fair Use.

The full length reactions won't be with any extra fanfare or anything, they'll just be posted that way. I can tell you, though, that the first one will be the final episode of "Overlord", as their company has shown me NO respect for my Fair Use (when I used only short clips of their footage, CLEARLY covered by Fair Use) and instead leverage YouTube's "block" policy to get around my Fair Use. So, I will happily make them the first full length, as I'd love to have them be the one that I can finally test the legality of this out on.  :-)

Comments

Darkslifer#27

Curtis is a bit salty about overlord i see 😂 tbf they deserve it

Yousef khanagha

that's good that youre going to do some full length reactions, but how come youre not going to react to the intros?

Aidan

Nurufufufu the goosh my dear gooshers will never be the same again if this workers and its all because of our support and especially brother e for searching this up. I could kiss you brother e and just show you what i can do with my tentacles.

Colin

Are you gonna do a poll for sub or dub on yu yu hakusho or are you just gonna decide yourself? In my opinion dub is much better.

Meelog Malterion

Sounds Badazz....now maybe if it works out we can get another Golden Video....maybe....one where he walks around the neighborhood with an orange soda looking for Susan to share a drink...and maybe pee on her garden Gnomes...oh wait....Adam Sandler already did that...minus the garden gnome part...oufcourse...

PKKite
>>20282512

It really is. Gives the main 4 much more character. Its one of those old legendary dubs.

THE GOOSH!
>>20282458

Because when you incorporate original music tracks - that aren't background - it goes into a whole different area of Fair Use. :-)

Jojoekage

Thanks Brother E, very cool.😎

THE GOOSH!

Of course, it bears noting, too, that it's REALLY not in the best interest of the Japanese companies to test me legally. If they win, I have to stop making reaction vids. If I win, the precedent has been set that this is, indeed, legal, and the doors will get blown off for more reaction vids.

Colin

How can the Japanese companies even know about the videos anyway? They’re private. It’s not like YouTube where they can easily find reaction videos and copyright them.

Jordan Swan

I can't lie when I say I enjoy the way you have it set up now. But if switches are made I'll support it.

Anonymous

Hell yeah Curtis you show em. I love what you’re doing here in this community and I can’t wait to see where it goes. I believe that some reactions can be full length but I totally agree that not EVERY reaction should be. That would probably make you a bigger target. Keep doing what you’re doing love you man. No homo <3

AyBe

Will you do this for the Broly movie when you get to it? Your reaction would be amazing.

Batman's Pet Goldfish

Smart move to test it on the most hostile company. That way we'll know if they can fuck with you on patreon too.

Ali6B

Perfect! One Piece & YuYu full reactions is a dream duo

Freddy Jimenez

Any chance for the last 2 eps of Super? They are so good you need to watch everything. I will also settle for just the last episode

Scryehard

Gimme the intros! D:

THE GOOSH!
>>20283437

Nah, music is a separate issue of Fair Use altogether. An individual video devoted just to an opening, with me giving my thoughts while it plays, would be way more likely than showing the opening during the reaction vid.

a weak geek
>>20283219

131 episodes in total. And I agree with Freddy, the final few episodes are definitely worth a full reaction too

boumka
>>20283437

we all would love this ! (Especially with samurai champloo opening/OST ;) )

Anonymous

Hey Curtis, first post on any of your channels. Ill go ahead and speak for everyone when I say we'll support you in either case. If you think we'll get more enjoyment from seeing more of your enjoyment then that's dope. If you think we get it all through the highlights, that too is dope. You do you brother. Empathy will take care of the rest.

Hi O'laverly

Not gonna lie, i disagree with this. I do not consider this to fall within fair use. In much the same way, i would consider it fair use to critique part of a novel as part of a review of the book, but i would not if i were to reproduce the entire text as part of the review, with comments and footnotes sprinkled about. Even if Patreon doesnt object to it, and even if the company doesnt either... im honestly not very comfortable with the idea. Still, your content. Do what you feel is right... but i cant agree with it at this point.

Zachary Provenzano

You do you Curtis even if an issue arises i wont complain if you cant do full-length. Your reactions are always truthful so ill still stick around to see more of your content even if their in parts.

THE GOOSH!
>>20287255

My biggest point of contention with that would be, in the case of the book, is there any evidence to suggest that the viewer/listener hadn't already read the book for themself and was now just listening/reading the review to get a new perspective? The crux of my claim to Fair Use - be it with or without edits - is that I can prove that the viewers A) have already seen the content that's being reacted to and B) are here strictly for the reaction... I'm not saying that guarantees me a win on the basis of Fair Use, as there is so much ambiguity in the doctrine, I'm just saying that in either case - edited or not - the defense doesn't really change at all.

Lewd Angel
>>20287255

While i would personally love to see the reactions fully here, i don't believe it worth the risk. Specifically for the reason that, while i do believe your edits are in fair use, a full length reaction could not be defended. Simply because of the fact that im pretty sure the 'people have seen this before and are here purely for the reaction, and i can prove it because they all said so on the internet' defense would not hold up in court, and since thats the main defense you'd have with doing full length reactions who knows where this would spiral towards

Colin
>>20287255

These are private videos... there’s virtually no risk

THE GOOSH!
>>20287255

In fairness, Lewd, if being able to prove that viewers are here for the reaction (constituting the transformative nature) isn't enough to prove Fair Use, then we will most definitely lose either way. If that element is thrown out, just saying that editing out 9-10 minutes of the episode alone makes it Fair Use will never hold up.

Lewd Angel
>>20287255

Editing the episodes down to a specific time does keep it within fair use though. It is a valid defense. What proof would you have that any of the 2000 people here have legal copies of the shows watched and that they have watched them previously, other than their word? Their word that holds no real weight in court in case this comes down to a bad lawsuit

Brother E
>>20287255

Has nothing to do with whether or not people are watching the anime. They are here to watch ‘CURTIS REVIEW/REACTION OF SAID ANIMES’. If you go to the overview of the Patreon channel it states ‘Spaz Boys Comedy is CREATING VIDEOS’ not ‘Spaz Boys Comedy is DISTRIBUTING ANIME EPISODE’. The Patreon does not only specify to anime, anime does have a majority factor in the Patreon but its not the only content provided here.

THE GOOSH!
>>20287255

Lewd, I'm not saying that editing a vid down might not have an effect in a court case. My point is, if you throw out what people have said, over and over, with no impetus to have lied, then there is no case to be made no matter how they're edited. That IS the proof of the videos being transformative; that I can show where people are watching the reactions despite having full knowledge and experience with the series itself. All testimony is simply someone's "word"... And whether or not they watched it through legal means would have no bearing on my case. All I need to show is that they already had full knowledge of the show before watching my reaction vid. As a matter of fact, if people had watched the original illegally (for free) but are willing to pay to be a member here and watch my vid, that would, perversely enough, strengthen my claim of a transformation of the material.

THE GOOSH!
>>20287255

@Lewd LOL! Yea, I really do need to get over there WAY more often. I always end up having a GREAT time when I'm there!

Chris
>>20287255

The only real argument against fair use that would take it to court is that it is hurting the profits of the original creators. Not only does the western audience account the a extremely tiny portion of the profits these anime make, those who don't buy the official merchandise are people that are unlikely to buy it in the first place. We pay what we pay here for the reaction, not the anime, just interested in Curtis' opinion.

Anonymous

I think One Piece really should be full reactions. I mean you watch the entire episodes anyway, so no lost time on your part. Less editing, slightly longer upload time. I doubt there will be any issues over this, not when it's on Patreon. The way you've been doing it does work, but at the same time there's reactions we miss because you skip scenes. I'd rather see it all.

GoldArthur

Hey Curtis. The successful instances of Full Length that I've seen did not use Vimeo. They used Google Drive and MEGA (since Google Drive easily hits view and download limits) and then links them in a patreon post. (You don't have to download. Both GDrive and MEGA allow you to view videos through the website.) Vimeo might work, but if it doesn't Id recommend trying MEGA before giving up on it. ... In fact, I'd recommend using MEGA from the get-go. It's easier to view on mobile that vimeo, its faster and easier for you to upload, AND it gives people an easier way to watch offline.