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A Proposition Regarding the Future of TTS on Patreon (Patreon)

Published:
2017-10-22 11:55:51
Imported:
2026-06

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Ay there!

I got an idea from one of my patrons (ye boy Twinsinner specifically) that I wanted to share with anyone who's interested.

You know how TTS takes a fuckload of time to release because the episodes are so god damn long?

WELL - what if I were to, EXCLUSIVELY ON PATREON, split the episodes up in 10-minute chunks that I release as part-episodes?

To be specific, here on Patreon, I will fully focus on just about 10 minutes of video at the time, subtitle it, brush it up real nice, include some credits and make it all individual episode-like, and release it for you to watch if you so desire!

Then, when the entire episode is finished, I'll release it in normal episode format on YouTube for the general masses, like I usually do.


REASONS FOR DOING THIS

I am constantly stressed by the fact that I haven't released a video in a while (even when I've just released one). Many people often approach me asking if TTS is dead or accuse me of being lazy.
Luckily, people here on Patreon have NEVER done this, and I am incredibly thankful for that, you have the patience of Saint Celestine (40KPUN).
But, there is always a gnawing feeling in the back of my head when I'm out for a walk, when I'm playing games with friends, when I'm trying to sleep, more or less all the time when I'm not editing.
This feeling is worry. A worry that you'll all suddenly leave enmasse because you realise that I'm just way too slow.
Thus, my brain logics - the more often I can release videos for you, especially mainline TTS videos, the less stressed I will be.


The pros and cons of this that I could come up with are:


Pros:

  • TTS more often for you.

  • Less stress for me.

  • You get to provide feedback for the full release.

  • You get to experience the episodes long before anyone else.

Cons: 

  • Potential story phasing issues (I will actively try to diminish this)

  • Potential exposure to spoiler-leaks if you choose to wait for full EPs

  • These videos will be shorter than you're used to.

  • fUCK YOU ALFABUSA STOP PAYWALLING CONTENT


Just to specify, I will ONLY be doing this for Patreon because I do not feel entirely comfortable releasing part-episodes on YouTube. It would be such a huge shift in the format that it'd probably rustle the jimmies of many.

The episode-parts will probably be released as unlisted videos on YouTube as well as downloadable through Dropbox right here on Patreon!

I hope you find this idea as tantalising as I do. If not, just throw a brick at me and tell me your thoughts in the comments.

That's all for now, thanks for reading and have a good one!

Comments

Eoin Thorpe

Dude anything that makes it easier on you to keep doing your fantastic work is worth doing

Karen Trevelyan

I think it makes a lot of sense, especially when it comes to easing stress about producing videos often enough.

Puff Dreemurr

I like the idea of previews in small chunks as it does give you something to hold you over before the full episode is released. Though yeah don't do this for the entire mass as it is a large shift in the format. Just Patreon is just fine. I say go for it if you think it's best! Also that f in "fUCK YOU" is lowercase when it's all caps.

Paul Calhoun

If it makes you feel better, do it. I'd wait for the full length videos if you did because I like them better than all them cliffhangers you'd get with 10 minute videos :)

Grimgore

I'm happy with whatever I get tbh as someone who has edited small shitty things I can only imagine how many hours go into a TTS episode. It's always worth the wait no matter what & I seriously doubt anyone currently here would abandon you because it takes time to make episodes, because it always has, that's the general understanding of (hopefully) the majority of the community. I'm totes down for the segmented episodes here if you feel like doing it but I could take it or leave it, I'm always happy to wait. I love The Emperor Had A Podcast series maybe those more regularly could fill the gaps? Even then you still put a lot of effort into those too so I dunno! *throws brick*

Andrew Mahoney

10 min chunks would be fine. there's a reason nobody minds waiting for these episodes - because we know how much time goes into creating the videos and as long as the quality is there in the end product there are no issues. You are right to be concerned however, since when people sponsor on Patreon they may have an "expectation" of an episode/content per moth or whatever (since sponsorship is "per month").

Kirk Rowe

"I am constantly stressed by the fact that I haven't released a video in a while". This is all I care about. If your new idea eases stress in ANY WAY, go right ahead and do it.

Conor Gordon

I’d be happy either way. Whatever you do Alfa it’s always amazing. I didn’t become a patron because I expected to get something out of it, I became a patron because your content is hilarious and clever and I love it. I’ll always be here no matter how long you videos take to come out.

Kami-Kaze

I'm fine with waiting, but if shorter chunks makes your life easier then I'd absolutely be happy with it.

Shane Heppenstall

I'm happy to support still either way man. You do what works for you :)

Deliciously Decadent drawings

I am happy for w/e you choose though has the thought of bringing this to GW and seeing if they would like this series enough to back it

Kashim

I'm not a patron of yours (yet) but I think this is a great idea. More regular content, even if it is in smaller chunks, would be far more preferable than going weeks/months and suddenly getting a TTS surprise in my Youtube subscription feed (which is nice, but waiting that long without content can disillusion the impatient out there). Other content providers do a similar format on Youtube so recreating it on here should not concern you at all. Personally I think you sound paranoid somewhat. Just relax more in the knowledge you produce brilliant content and have a whole lot of eager fans that will happily support you regardless of changes you want to make.

Johannes Pakonen

Dude, of course it's fine to split it into parts. While you do get patreoned for the episodes, you started doing it for the fun of it and that usually shows in the "love" put into each episodes (even though there are mistakes in the subtitles, but we are all make mistakes). Best you do it on your own pace, so you can make excellent episodes while enjoying them with your friends. The worries you mentioned are real, but relatively small compared to stress building up and then we suffer from the drop of quality and you suffer from the accumulation of stress and bad thoughts. EDIT: Thank you very much for all the fun episodes thus far and hope you will get the peace of mind you wish.

Aidan

fUCK YOU ALFABUSA STOP PAYWALLING CONTENT

ArchMagos

mate take your time. your content is so good and the wait is not an issue. dont worry about stress take yout time and make the best show you can. we will still be here. GW took 20 years to advance the 40k plot and people waited that long and didnt leave so whats a month or 2 to us?. do what ever you feel happy with.

lol32

i dont think is a good idea, your staff is good, but this is just one step foward to privatice things , i cant talk for everyone else but im supporting you because i like your staff and lets be honest here , not everybody is going to pay for it , still your staff is good enought to share it with as many people as possible, and just want so show you some appreciation , watching earlier a few days i think is enought, but , your decision mate, im just a regular guy with a personal opinion.

Kamendachi

By all means if it helps relieve stress for you go for it Alfa. Just because people are asking and pressuring you for video doesn’t mean you need to stress yourself and staff. Your videos are the type that need time to make and when there done their some of the Best videos I’ve seen in a long time. For example......Voxcast Episode 1, I LOVED the Debate between the Emperor and Priest explaining the pros and cons of the warp.........oh um spoilers. At the end of the day you do you man.👍

Sirin15

I will probably wait to watch the full episodes anyway, but as a lot of the others said above - I want you to pick the option that makes your workflow easier and your life easier.

Zamnil Mattockwaz

I would rather have half an hour episodes every 6 months rather than some short ones per month because long ones are much more satisfying *wink wink*. I mean really because of that I fell in love with your 1.5 hour long podcasts. Even so if it will make you more relaxed (or less stressed) and some people happy, do it. I will just ignore them and wait for the full release.

Lucky The Plucky

I am of the mind that you ought to do whatever you feel you should. I wouldnt mind more frequent episodes, but at the same time, I cannot help but marvel at the small details I find in each one. I understand it takes a long time to make, so I can focus on something like my job or getting my master's degree in between episodes. In short, you do you boss. I'm with ya either way.

Ri Souza

The better for you, The better for everyone =). The emperor concurs.

Anonymous

I mean. I like the teases. And I like my episodes lengthy. Soooo Do what you do now is something I like.

Bob Kyne

I am all for the idea, I think it will help shorten gaps and I am all for more content!

acroPhobia

Honestly, as for the proposition, I'd have to know how much of a change this would actually make to the schedule. If it's from two months to one month, I'm honestly not really too fussed. The most important thing, though, is definitely your own mental health, and how you personally feel. If chopping up the episodes like that would be better for you, I am 100000000% for it. (Also, just an fyi that's completely unrelated, I freaking /love/ the podcasts. They are really, really good. )

Steven phoner

I for one will not stop being a patreon even if the episodes take a while, and while I wouldn't complain about more frequent updates, I do think that the script may suffer if you end up trying to break it down in 10 minute segments.

Anonymous

I would say it would prob be better to stick with the old way. Also dont worry about releasing content all the time, quality over quantity and im pretty sure most of the people on this patreon know what they were signing up for.

Zatarra Manetti

The only issue I'd take with this is the "story phasing issues". Make that not happen, you are free to release chunks at a time.

medhathobo

I don't care either way. The people who watch your stuff and support your patreon likely think the same way. I know that not putting out a youtube video for awhile causes people to unsub, but exclusively putting parts of the videos here wouldn't help. That said, there are parts of newer videos that I thought could have been an ending to their own video, so you could just make episodes shorter. I'm not exactly short on patience myself, still waiting for Half-Life 3 over here.

AyeBraine

I'm REALLY not sure about this. I write for a living, and I write scripts for screen sometimes, and (as you of course know), a 20-minute script is significantly different from two 10-minute scripts or four 5-minute scripts. I mean, I'm sure you could create glorious 10-minute animations if you felt like it, but so far your main format is long, TV-show-episode-length videos - with ample time for long verbose jokes, monologues, joke arches, couple of locations changes and so on. You can't just chop these up in chunks. It's like dividing one MACK truck into five Suzuki Jimnys. There is a _reason_ for why you did such long videos for S1 - it's not that it's a standard for YouTube parody animation videos, on the contrary. I realize that _telling_ you to stop fretting about the pressure is very stupid, but frankly, you'll have to deal with it somehow (I certainly don't know how yet myself )). I'd say this is a solution that is invented to decrease discomfort and delays, but will create an enormous amount of new discomfort and gigantic hurdles and more delays along the way.

AyeBraine

Of course if you FEEL that you could do shorter 10-15 minute videos and it would benefit the format, go for it by all means. Again, you don't owe anything to the viewer really, at least in the realm of "oh, the first season had N x 20 minute episodes, and this one has N x 10 minute ones, y u do this".

AyeBraine

Oh, and one more thing: I think that "raw" previews and outtakes of WIP videos would be smashing for Patreon updates. We receive them in the mail, and it's always fun to watch a short one. I think that's a very good middle ground. Due to the nature of your videos, outtakes featuring separate short "skits" or just funny outrageous animations that are so abundant in your work (like a gruff remark then flying off on a jetpack) would maybe work very well as updates for supporters. Just don't try to cram your videos in an unnatural format for the sake of more frequent updates.

UltimoPlayer

Well, I honestly don’t mind waiting as long as it take to make the episodes Alpha, but if it helps with you being less stressed about not putting content in regular intervals then by all means do it. Im just here to help you keep making GLORIOUS videos.

Anonymous

I am in full support of this. Have my HAMS sir.

Trevor Bond

I like your work so I support it. You do you: if it helps you sleep at night and keeps your stress level down you produce your work however you care to. I can wait for full episodes (I know this stuff takes time), or I can check out pieces as you release them I won't know how it is until you try, and if I don't like it I can always just go back to watching the full releases! If it brings down your stress level, go for it I say. I know how much that can wreck a full time creative.

Liam Swinn

Whatever is easiest for you. If it is less stress I would say go for it. You can always do a test run and see if it works.

Cyber

I think the way you're doing it right now is fine. I'd rather see a finished product then get it bit by bit. If it's less stress on you then go for it and the last thing we want is this to become too much stress on you and everyone else.

Sean Geraghty

As long as I get my Chainhammer, I'm good.

Anonymous

Go for it dude, doesn't sound like it'd delay the YouTube releases much, and you do have a decently sized patreon hoard to consider now.

Darío Canto Fornell

Whatever makes you more confortable, m8. A happy Alfabusa is a good Alfabusa.

Glen Mallorca

Whatever you are most comfortable with works for me. However, I would counter complaints regarding speed with the sheer length and quality that goes into your videos.

Jim McGeehin

I personally don't stress out about it. I personally am a Patreon because of the quality of the content, not it's speed. But if it's less stress for you, go for it.

Anonymous

I would love this :D

Delta

This idea, it pleases me! I love your content as a whole and I don't mind waiting especially because you put so much time and effort into your work, which gives us better content in the long run. I understand how creative pressure can manifest, either as depression, stress, anxiety, etc. as I write myself and often go through the same process of self doubt and worry of people losing interest. That said if it would help you out, make you feel at ease, and the result is us getting piecemeal content for us to watch, hell I'm all for it!

CasketCase

Short answer: Whatever is easier for you and makes things less stressful. The long answer: I would suggest starting off with a few "test" chunks of content, just to test the waters and see how much of it would be leaked out to the larger audiences. While I believe everyone has been doing really well when it came to podcasts and previous episodes being released a few days beforehand, you never know nowadays about stuff like this. Still, if getting feedback while work is still in progress helps your stress levels, I say go for it.

brotherthat

I like it. Gives incentive for people to support your work without taking away content from the rest of your fans. Also barking Toad plushy when? I could see Vulcan giving one to his dear dead dad. "Look father! I have brought you a small deadly amphibian to keep you company in your endless existence of pain and misery."

Zack Coggins

I say go for it. If it means less stress, then in means better quality. Plus, if you release a half video, then I'll watch that. Then when you release the second half, I'll watch the first half again then the second half. Then when you release the connected video, I'll watch it all again. So, you know, more views! And if anyone bitches about a paywall, then they can go suck a genestealer ovipositor.

Mars Project

I can understand why you would want to do this, it certainly has the benefit of us getting TTS episodes more often to sate our hunger for its fantastic story and comedy. But I personally prefer the way you are doing it at the moment, I feel they are worth the wait.

Aubury

Watching a new TTS video without having to wait 3 months per episode? What an absolutely fantastic idea! Go for it, especially if it will make you feel better.

Alfabusa (Ogre Poppenang)

I'm glad you agree! I reckon full format change would be a bit sudden and shellshocking. Oh and yeah I know I tEND TO WRITE LIKE THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW

Alfabusa (Ogre Poppenang)

I wasn't sure how many would just wait it out like you've always done, but I am happy and relieved there are people who are so willing to do so!

Alfabusa (Ogre Poppenang)

Thank you very much! And yeah you're most likely right. A lot of people do tell me that it takes too much time, but those people are not patrons, and I have never heard such sentiments from a patron. However, as for the podcast, oh yes, absolutely, I will make more of those, currently working on a script as we speak as a matter of fact! Black Templar time!

Alfabusa (Ogre Poppenang)

That is my primary concern always all the time, of course! But I'd be lying if I didn't say it has been quelled somewhat what-with all the extremely understanding comments that have been left here, which is also an incredibly nice feeling. Alfabus is alive and healthy thanks to you.

Alfabusa (Ogre Poppenang)

Thank you for the extensive and thought-out comment! I absolutely see where you're coming from, and you're right in many regards. However, at the same time, I really do feel like I perhaps could make this work maybe somehow! Of course, as I established, this will ONLY be a thing on Patreon, and for those who feel like watching it in this format. I'm never going to be releasing them on YouTube in this format. So, while it will be bit rougher, the people who just yearn for TTS perhaps does not mind. In the end, the normal episodes will not suffer. I also feel that focusing on ~10 minutes of video at a time could up the quality of each segment, both because I focus on 10 minutes exclusively both while editing visuals and in post, AND because there may be people out there who will provide useful feedback on the segments that I can improve upon in the final product. That's my thought-process at least. I hope it makes even the barest sliver of sense.

Hori

Alfa I love you mate. But honestly, I would be completely fine if you just made say 10 min episodes like you want to and just release them as part 1/2/3 to the public and then release whole episode with the last part even if individual parts have massive cliffhangers (just don't cut it mid-sentence xD). I'm throwing money at you because I love TTS. And while I'm sure 99% of people would be perfectly ok with it. I'm worried that fixing this stress for you would lead to another one when some people start harassing you for "paywalling" or shit like that.

Tactical Suplex

This idea isn't half-bad actually. I'm all for this plan.

Field Marshal Fry

sounds fine to me old bean, but I'd rather be like Saint Ciaphas Cain :P (yes, there is a cult that worships him as a living saint)

Garcarius Von Garquen

Take the time you need i'd say, waiting is not a problem for me, so I'd rather see the whole episode, thought if it does help you calm yourself the go for it.

Anonymous

I do not like this idea. The best solution is often the easiest one and going to the trouble to chop an episode into pieces just to piecemeal them onto Patreon seems wasteful. Honestly, I'd rather you were taking a nap than spending time and energy on THAT.

GUYFUN

For months now i've been thinking about how you take the pressure of making this series and the fanbase. Personally I think it isn't a good idea to give us shorter episodes just to then merge them for youtube. I think the solution is to continue giving us more short witty clips and maybe screenshots of your progress and any scenes you think could need the 'public' perspective.

GUYFUN

Holy shit it's been 3 years since you started your patreon... I feel old ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ

CasinoV

I don't believe you have to go out of your way to make 10 mins videos. Maybe just more feedback into how an individual episode is coming along or like a 30sec clip every once an awhile.

Vladimír Lieberzeit

If you're really sure it will ease the stress on you, then do it.

Orjin

Yeah man, whatever works best for you

Tish

In my opinion you should keep things as they are. Yeah the episodes are months apart but everytime we get nothing short of amazing, you have a system that works. Your'e worried about the production of your series, your'e running a business and thats tough, but I know that cutting these episodes to three parts will add more work and might mess up how the story is told because you'll have to edit things differently. You shouldn't be afraid of your patrons leaving you, we are more stubborn then Cadians, more zealous then Black Templars, more crazy then Sisters of Battle for your series and you have yet to let us down, We are not leaving anytime soon, at least until GW decides to create a whole new line of Squats miniatures because then we have to support that. I don't mind waiting 2-3 months for a TTS episode, I get other series in between and I consider myself very patient. if you'll still cut the episodes in three I'll still support this channel, heck it might be better, but I think the current way works.

Ted Johansson

ehh, nah. these things take time and they should be allowed to take time. perhaps post some production updates instead, to let people know you're not dead, at least?

joeystaats

My opinion Is keep doing what you are doing take your time for awesome videos

Abayas

My two-cents: do what makes you "happier". I myself hate the feeling of something hanging over my head. The way you are doing it is fine, I think. Especially so with the addition of the podcast and Vulcan spinoff. As someone mentioned above- why not give it a test-run, see how it works out?

Aphala

Either way, I'm behind it!