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Doctor Who 8x3 FULL LENGTH Reaction | Robot of Sherwood https://youtu.be/LsIdpbGTbMs

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Doctor Who 8x3 FULL LENGTH Reaction | Robot of Sherwood

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Purple Nurple

Just an FYI - the YT link doesn't seem to be working in the description - there's a missing 's' at the end

Alkaris

and that is lowercase 's' just in case folks are wondering.

Luka Poser

I'd like to push back on the idea that rejecting Journey Blue is unlike the Doctor we know - maybe the coldness/bluntness of it is, but the Doctor has only really tolerated soldiers at best. He's never invited them aboard, not even the Brigadier. The last person the he would want as a companion right now is someone with the same violent history as himself, especially after seeing how his own justified hatred of the Daleks got in the way of a better solution. The way I see it, it's another part of the "veil of age lifting". This is a Doctor who perhaps remembers who he is too much, and has been adventuring so long that saving people is just "going through the motions." I don't think he doesn't care, but i do think he doesn't want to get emotionally invested because it hurts.

Lycanlux

Your right about seeing yourself as a hero being bad - remember Tennant in Waters of Mars?, Don't think I ever left a comment but I love Capaldi and the 12th doctor I started watching with Eccleston as well but Capaldi became my doctor who I always love to rewatch, I hope you come to really love him as well, If I can give one thing to look forward to it's Capaldi's speeches by god does he do a great speech and there are some brilliant ones in his reign. Also yes this episode is absolutely necessary for the 12th Doctors development this doctor is doing a first time thing (At least I don't think Eccleston, Tennant or Smith had) in actually having an arc which just adds to my love.

Bill

The black and white photograph that we see when Robin is shown images about his legendary status is from a 1953 TV series in which Robin Hood is played by Patrick Troughton - the same Patrick Troughton who went on to play the second Doctor in Doctor Who!

Frank (MetronV) Izzy

I'm so glad I'm doing this rewatch because at some point between when this episode originally came out and now, I had somehow convinced myself that Robin and his men were also robots and I had forgotten that the girl was Marian! As to the Doctor's personality after his latest regeneration, i've always believed his harshness in the first few episodes has been a result of both the circumstances of his regeneration, and the suddenness of it. Everything about him has changed. The memories are in there, but even at the very beginning he couldn't remember how to fly the TARDIS. His personality is still in flux and having a companion such as Clara helps direct who he will be. Although the Doctor frequently has a female companion (especially in the modern era), he hasn't always. There has been solo male companions in the past (classic series), and mixed companions like Rose and Mickey. Personally I like the duo dynamic, but don't really mind at all when they add more cast, especially when it makes sense. I was rather confused at his treatment of Journey Blue at the end of 8x2, since he's such good personal friends and ally with a soldier in the form of Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart in the classic series, but that might be part of the establishment of this new Doctor's personality developing.

Merlin’s Cat

I think you are forgetting how Matt was in his second episode, he was very cross, but he got better..why because of Amy his companion. xx

Cei Stockport

At this point the Doctor is 2000 years old and has spent 1100 of the year's fighting war's (400 subjective years in the Time War and 700 years at Trenzalore). From his perspective he met Journey Blue around 4 weeks after Trenzalore and her first action after being saved was to pull a weapon on him. That's NOT companion material even if you leave out being absolutely DONE with soldiers at this point.

Cei Stockport

The Doctor is deeply self loathing, carries a lot of mental scars and can live up his 'title' as the Lonely God. He absolutely need's Companions around to rein him in.

dean worrall

are these robots cousins of the Pyrovilians? they used carved stone tablets to repair their stuff while these used cast gold "circuits"..

Sorcerer Rumburak

Well, well, well - The really, really best Sheriff of Nottingham, Robert de Rainault, is and was Nicolacs Grace. Even "Costner Hood" stole so much from his performance - better: From the hole Show "Robin of Sherwood" from 1984. Strong recommendation to watch. https://youtu.be/9-x7rvmTeRA?si=CeGw7Sg2SQNWg2ER - BTW: The horse, Guy of Gisborne rides, is in fact "Black Beauty" from the 1972-Series.

Paulo

I love him he is such an old man i love him.

funnylilgalreacts

But his first episode was fun, Peter has been so cold throughout the 3 (four if I'm being honest) and it's intolerable. If this person was in my life they would be out of my life.

funnylilgalreacts

I was just hurt that he thinks Journey is JUST a soldier. She obviously wanted something different by asking to go. You'd think he would have be interested in that switch.

Merlin’s Cat

I get you, and as a big fan of Peters other work I was taken aback by the coldness but hang in there..

funnylilgalreacts

But by her asking to go was that not her trying to not be just a soldier? You'd think he he would have liked she wanted to go with him rather than fight in a war.

Luka Poser

In another fun contrast, we've now had a trilogy of putting Twelve up against his past. Deep Breath is him crashing into an Eleven+Paternoster story and overpowering it. Into the Dalek has him reliving the Ninth Doctor's trauma, with the underlying tension that his hate & behavior feels different without the guilt of killing all the Time Lords. Robot of Sherwood, then, is the inverse of Deep Breath - where Twelve crashes into an episode starring basically the Eleventh Doctor and it overpowers him.

Mimi

But does that mean he has to travel with her? It's his tardis, his home, and his choice. Also, he didn't say that's all she was, and he actually said some nice things about her, but right now, because of what he's been through and is going through, he just doesn't want anything to do with soldiers, which I think I is fair enough really!

Mimi

I'll be honest, I'm struggling to understand why you feel that this doctor needs to be like Matt's doctor in order for you to accept him as the doctor!? Why does he need to do the drunk giraffe? Nine didn't, nor did 10, and you still loved them! Every doctor so far has been very different, and 12 is no exception to that - he brings his own unique elements, just like all the doctors before him! How boring would it be if every doctor was the same?! Obviously it's perfectly normal that you like some doctors more than others, we all do that, but it just feels like you're setting this doctor up for failure by expecting him to be the same as Matt, and I really don't want you to miss out on being able to enjoy this doctor because of that!

Literaltruth

I've never liked this episode - but it's really interesting rewatching it with you reacting and it makes more sense now. As a fan of classic, where the Doctor is quite often a variation of "crotchety old man who is annoyed by stupid humans even though he likes them deep down", I LOVED Capaldi from the outset and really vibed with him. However, seeing your reaction made me realise that they really needed a fun, goofy episode like this in this slot so that people whose only experience is Christopher, David and Matt can see that there's still going to be fun stuff. Just to reassure you a little - he is VERY much on an arc as a character and does not finish his run the way he started it and I really think you'll like him a lot by the end.

funnylilgalreacts

I didn't think he was going to be like Matt. I expected him to be like the Doctor. This guy isn't The Doctor.

Frank (MetronV) Izzy

Oh and that does make it all the more gut wrenching when you think about how she did actually want something different and who she could have been had he not reacted with such dismissal. Also I knew I’ve seen the actress before. Zawe Ashton played the main antagonist Dar-Benn in The Marvels!

vaughn DeGeer

The first thing the sixth doctor did when he regenerated was try to strangle his companion who was with him when he was the fifth doctor

Mimi

I mean, with respect, you did literally say in this reaction that Peter's great at serious, but you want to see a dancing giraffe or an allons-y...!! Can I ask what are you wanting that you think is the doctor but you're not getting with 12?

funnylilgalreacts

Warmth, kindness, fun, whimsy, playful sarcasm… it’s like my favorite person has dementia and a different face. He’s completely unrecognizable.

Mimi

Yeah, I totally get that at this stage. I think part of the problem is that we're all coming at this from the perspective of having seen his whole run, and it's hard sometimes to remember how this doctor is presenting right now when seen with new eyes! I'm not gonna lie, I think this might be rough for you for quite a while, but I promise you, it will get better eventually, and those traits you love are in there, even if it doesn't seem like it right now!

Jeremy C

I'll be honest, Peters not my favorite doctor, but as I'd watched some classic who in my childhood years, I was sort of used to an older cantankerous Doctor already. However, as others have said, I see him very much as the same character, slightly more honest with his prejudices than with some earlier Nu Who Doctors, who you could imagine were wearing a bit of a mask with the humour Having said that, some of my most liked episodes are in the 12th Doctor Era.

Alix

in this episode we literally saw him sword fight with a spoon, tell the merry men he loves them, save Maid Marian and all the other prisoners, and reunite Maid Marian with Robin. he also *said* he hated and was against bantering, but then found himself bantering later anyway. he also made sarcastic jokes that even Robin Hood laughed at and called him an "amusing fellow" about. Yes, his delivery is curmudgeonly, and his disposition is a lot more grumpy than previous doctors, and he can absolutely be callous and cold at times (though I'd also urge you not to take everything he says/does at face value--remember the whole "the doctor lies" thing from eleven's era), but the things you're saying that you miss about him are very much things that were active and present in him in this episode

John

It's not that the Doctor hates soldiers. He hates himself for ever having to act like a soldier. Some of the Doctor's closest friends have been soldiers, but right now they all just remind him of centuries of war on Trenzalore. Peter Capaldi's Doctor has a proper character growth arc. It's not wrapped up in a couple episodes, but it will be worth the journey. No judgement on your feelings. I think the Doctor probably misses the old fun Doctor himself.

Rach

"He seeks to oppress us for evermore" "Or 6 months in your case!" It's mean but it makes me laugh every time. FWIW I think other commenters are being harsh and forgetting that your reaction is normal. 12 is being deliberately written in order to make you feel the way you feel about him right now, it's part of the story Moffat is telling, and a lot of people pushing back on the way you feel have the benefit of hindsight colouring how they feel.

Isobel Pittman

Honestly when I first watched Capaldi I was right there with you, I didn’t like how seemingly grumpy and mean he was compared with past doctors. However by the end of his run he was absolutely one of my all time favourites, and his and Clara’s dynamic became one of my favourite doctor/companion pairings. There’s a lot to peel back but the writing combined with Capaldi’s performance does an excellent job. As someone who felt the exact same as you at first, I promise it gets better.

John

That's a fact. This season is a journey, one with some rocky terrain along the way, but keep to the path and you'll eventually make it to the promised land. Oh, wait....

db

Very out of the box comparison, Matt Smiths doctor is like Bryan Cranston in Malcom in the Middle. Capaldi's doctor is like Bryan Cranston in Breaking Bad. Both Capaldi and Cranston also faced quite a bit of resistance at first.

Ejigantor

I choose to believe that it was not that the arrow was all the missing gold they needed, it was just enough at just the right time, to give it a boost that let it barely reach sufficient altitude. I enjoy this episode overall. It's fun, the robots are cool, Jenna looks amazing in that dress, and I love the meta conversation at the end between Robin and The Doctor, "I'm as real as you are." Trivia note: There's a glitch at one point towards the end of the episode because they edited it on very short notice because of a real world event, and background stuff jumps around where they spliced things together around the cut content. Reportedly it would have revealed the Sherri's being part robot, it was before he described himself as "half man, half engine" but there were of course conspiracy theories that something far more significant was cut, and those who were mad that anything was cut at all, but it doesn't really detract from the episode we got or make anything not make sense. I like the episode we got, and given the real world context I'm glad they did the edit. (I am being vague regarding details because the details include real world violence and I can't spoilertext it to prevent people who don't want to read it from possibly seeing it)

Ash Davis

There’s a version of this episode that had to be re-edited last minute due to real world circumstances involving a journalist being murdered. There was a point during the final fight scene between Robin Hood and the Sheriff where the Sheriff actually gets decapitated, which in turn was supposed to be a reveal that the Sheriff actually died during the initial crash of the robots’ ship, and was repaired to become a robot himself, so he simply picks up his head and puts it back on, itself an allusion to the story of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. This explains the Sheriff’s “half man, half engine” line, and how he was able to survive for a moment in the molten gold, long enough to visibly be seen reaching out of the vat. The moment was taken out the week of broadcast as to not offend the general public. Before episode 1 was ever released of this series, unfinished black and white versions, along with their scripts, of the first five episodes were leaked online, where this moment remained intact, but with unfinished dialogue audio and special effects, and with just the temporary music.

Carl Wilson

Funny, but Cranston's character on Breaking Bad only becomes worse and worse as a person. Opposite of what happens here.

Carl Wilson

Fun fact file: the Sheriff's line "Will no one rid me of this turbulent doctor?" is a play on a famous quote from English history, supposedly said by King Henry II about Thomas Becket, the Archbishop of Canterbury at the time, who was plotting against him: "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?

Kevin (GiantFutures.com)

Is it bad that this is one of my favorite episodes of this season? Like, behind the first story of the season and the last story of the season, this is the episode I love the most! It’s fun, and it’s 12 getting to have some fun by being the crotchedy old man, but he’s clearly doing it with a wink as well. My favorite moment, and Angela, I hope you saw this in the edit…watch Capaldi when he puts on the glove before grabbing his spoon for the duel. He closes his fist one finger at a time slowly……………but the finger that he was last to close was done with cheeky intention. 😂😂🤣 There is a moment coming up that I know all the others who have watched this know…when Angela will get precisely the Doctor she wants. I swear, she’s going to cry tears of joy when she sees 12 in that moment.

Mimi

100%!! And yeah, he's more grumpy, but his grumpiness is actually funny!

db

True, thats why I used actor to actor output and not the characters.

Cross Hatched95

To be fair to the question (“does he have to have a companion?”) river, any, Donna, Martha and rose all said don’t be alone. And the time he was alone was waters of Mars.. and we know how that went.

Carl Wilson

I love that you enjoyed the "utterly ridiculous shit" that is Doctor Who about this, and nobody needs to give you a hard time about your feelings about early 12, which are just sincere ones. As long as you're not giving up on the show, it's all gonna be okay. And I do not care about the absurdity of the golden arrow the way that I did when I first saw it - the spoon balances that out!

Carl Wilson

The one thing about that, Angela, is that Clara has been very dramatically reminded that this person is the same person who was in her life before, whom she very much loved (in whatever sense you choose, but most of all as the most miraculous person in the universe). So now she is not going to give up on him easily.

Carl Wilson

I don't think I've seen that old episode, but we've seen a bunch in New Who that the post-regeneration doctor is more than a little psychologically warped until he settles down, so you know, whatever it might be. I think this series just takes that transition further than it's ever been done before.

Carl Wilson

Some of that is true but Peter's Doctor is still being very grumpy and combative at this point, and trying to argue Angela out of the evidence of her own eyes and ears feels a little harsh.

Mimi

I don't know who your comment was in reply to Carl, but I don't think anyone is doing that, just trying to reassure Angela that the things that she likes in the doctor are/will be still there in this doctor as she's struggling with him right now. And no one is saying he's not being grumpy or combative right now!!

James Hoffmann

Angela, maybe. But in the Doctor's experience, he's seen a lot of soldiers who shoot first and ask questions later. The Doctor is about asking questions first and shooting only when necessary. So he really dislikes that quality that he has seen too often in solders. So when his first encounter with Journey Blue is her pulling a gun on him, it just confirmed that bias all over again, that she is a typical soldier who lacks curiosity and just wants to shoot what she does not understand. That is not companion material. Could she have changed? Maybe. But it can be hard to get over a bad first impression.

Alexander Whitehill

this one was kind of a kick for me when it first came out... still is to be fair. At the time I was still playing Robin Hood at most of the Renaissance Faires across Iowa (and a bit into Nebraska). I walked around the streets of the Faire with a wooden "treasure box" full of plastic "gold" and "silver" coins and "gem" stones and necklaces and such. I would look for "poor people" who needed some wealth. Generally I defined that as children but there were exceptions. Japanese tourists were very much into my vibe. Children would find me years later and tell me how they still had what I had given them. It was really quite nice. My goal was to try and make the day better for every child I could find. And by extension their parents. I have always said that once I got older I could play Don Quixote. I DO speak Spanish more than passing well. AND I know all the songs from Man of La Mancha. As does the guy I know that used to be my Friar Tuck, and would make an excellent Sancho Panza. I feel I need to be thinner than I now am to pull off Don Quixote. But I'm working on it with the VA and what not.

James Hoffmann

I think that the Doctor has seen lots of soldiers who acted pretty dumb because they just shoot first whatever they don't understand. He hates that trait. So I think it would be more accurate to say that the Doctor hates a particular type of soldier. There have been exceptions like the Brigadier.

James Hoffmann

Angela, your intro remarks about the Doctor trying to find himself are pretty spot on. This season is about the Doctor rediscovering who he is. He will answer his own question "Am I a good man?" and it is a great answer imo. I know regenerations can be tough and the change from Smith to Capaldi is especially jarring. But hang in there. It is worth it. I absolutely loved Capaldi by the end. When you get to his regeneration, you will see the end of the journey. It will all make sense, I promise.

funnylilgalreacts

I feel like no one sees this from her perspective and give him to much grace in that whole scenario

funnylilgalreacts

I’m not saying Clara, or myself, would give up easily. But it better not be who he is long term because his coldness is borderline abusive.

DSJ.

I think that in some ways, the Twelve we've seen so far is actually exactly the same as the Doctors we've seen - just without the sugar-coating. He's just more open about the ruthlessness that his life requires. Which doesn't mean he doesn't care, or love, or have warmth. You only have to look at his glee about the 'endless rebirth of the universe' speech in Into the Dalek to see the young man in the old man, the warmth and love that is there. He's just not putting a front on the harder edges of it anymore. But let's see how it all goes... And yes, this is the Doctor who was born almost straight after revisiting the trauma of the Time War and spending a millennium fighting on Trenzalore. This man is even more traumatised - because he remembers more - than Nine, but still he is trying his best, and there is heat and heart and hearth at his core.

DSJ.

Also interesting to note that Matt was the youngest ever to play the Doctor, and he was followed by the oldest ever to play the Doctor (by a few months, Capaldi was older than Hartnell when he began - though his age in the 21st century is obviously a lot more robust than the same age in the '60s). But I think in some ways Matt embodied the oldest Doctor, and Peter embodies the youngest, but that's an opinion to be discovered perhaps

DSJ.

Always nice to have a very, silly episode, with a scintilla of seriousness towards the end :)

DSJ.

Also, this is one of those episodes that creep up on you. The sort of thing that you dismiss at first sight but actually, and strangely, rewards repeat viewing (I say this as someone who watched it live and forgot about it for years before re-discovering it). It has its merits. Also, not-so-fun fact, but there are two deleted scenes, one in this episode and one in the previous, Dalek episode which were cut because they aired at the time ISIS was becoming a big thing. I won't say why, but the scenes happened to have some uncomfortable similarities with things that were happening in the news at the time, so they decided to cut them, for the sake of sensitivity. The scene and plotline that was thus excised from this particular episode kind of diminishes it - it works a lot better if that scene was still in. Less so the Dalek episode. But regardless, it's interesting that they decided they had to cut things in both episodes because of stuff that was happening in the wider world and was featured on the news at the time.

Jordan Boulton

I can maybe stomach you not warming to Capaldi immediately but I don’t know if I can stomach that AND a spurs hoodie 🫠

John

I didn't say the Doctor hates soldiers. I said he hates himself for having to have been one for so long.

Luka Poser

Oh I certainly agree that the Doctor is in the wrong. His rejection of good people who are soldiers - while always present and understandable - IS hypocritical. He himself was both things in the Time War and again on Trenzalore! Journey Blue is one of those "almost companions" I often think about, like Rita in The God Complex. They could be great, and it feels unfair that they were denied that future.

Jamiee

to be fair to Angela, the tonal whiplash is significantly different when you haven't waited and had the idea of a new doctor teased for a year, watching it when it came out and actively WANTING something different, edgier and spicier and having that rewarded is very different to having the rug pulled under you and immidiately jumping into the next episode, that said, 12 is a journey and without spoiling there's a lot of development in both doctor and companion

Ben “Bentendo” Dawson

There was a brilliant easter egg in the database of Robin Hood as a legend, where the final picture depicted Patrick Troughton [the 2nd Doctor] who portrayed Robin in the first televised adaptation of the story in 1953.