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Babylon 5 1x14 FULL LENGTH Reaction | TKO (Patreon)

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Gallows Girl Amy

This is an odd episode in that Susan's plot is so engaging but the Walker Smith plot was a bit "meh." Smith's casual racism towards aliens probably didn't help. Although he learnt some respect. I will say I never noticed his slightly foreshadowing comments before. Susan's story always affects me though. My own relationship with my immediate ancestors was somewhat problematic and never really resolved. But beyond that it is a fantastic exploration of the puzzle that is Lt. Commander Susan Ivanova.

Moricant

The name Caliban is taken from Prospero’s monstrous slave in The Tempest.

Dylan Humphries

Somehow I always manage to forget that the 'sitting shiva' episode I really like is the same one as the 'dumbass fighting' episode I mostly disdain. Not because fighting stories are dumb necessarily ... but this one is particularly dumb.

Mark Ten

If you have a rabbi in your life, you are going to get some intrusiveness. Though this one did cross the line. I think this was more a case of a concerned uncle putting his nose in where it didnt belong more than an abusive rabbi.

Moricant

This is widely regarded as one of the weakest episodes of the entire show; it’s the only one rated below 6 on IMDB.

James Fleischman

Note that Garibaldi never said anything to Sinclair about Susan's father

Paul Hess

In my opinion those who dislike the episode are watching it backwards 😜. What they think is the A plot is just a fun silly romp that's mainly there for some side reasons that I won't elaborate on. And we got a lot of fun silly slang words from Walker and Garibaldi's bantering. The real plot is Ivanova and her character development, her suppression of mourning, her not letting anyone inside her feelings, further establishing the very difficult history of her family and relationships. That plot was wonderfully executed, with a great guest appearance from Rabbi Kossel and some very strong compassion moments from Jeff. Change the title to "Remembrance" or something and then everyone will look at it the other way. I haven't watched your reaction yet I'm looking forward to it!

Terrafan

This one is...complex. I'm not going to talk about the Walker plot...it's...irrelevant and...for lack of a better term...essentially filler. But the other plot.... Sometimes.... -sometimes- we need someone in our lives to meddle...in certain things. Sometimes we self harm and we don't realize it. We self sabotage...and sometimes it takes someone else to pull us up by own own petard even against our own wishes If you see someone physically hurting themselves...you'd do almost anything to intervene. The same goes for someone mentally self sabotaging....or in this case...spiritually self sabotage. Forgiveness is a strange thing. Many people think forgiveness is telling someone what they did is ok, and that there are no more consequences. It's NOT that. Forgiveness doesn't mean that someone is absolved of consequences for their actions. It means that giving someone forgivness means that you're letting go of the emotions and the turmoil within ourselves over the actions. There still that can be consequences, but you've removed your emotional attachment to it. At least that's how I look at it. I think everyone needs a Rabbi Yossl in their live. We don't grow and overcome our own (sometimes self imposed) limitations without sometimes getting a shove from someone else...even when that shove isn't what we think at the time. Sometimes the other people in our lives know better than we do when we're ready...and what we need. It's a very fine line, for sure. Many times...it doesn't work..but sometimes..it's just what we need.

funnylilgalreacts

I'm mean its both but either way, Susan is a grown woman, not a child.

John

Morden was speaking to the ambassadors. Who is the human ambassador to B5? Functionally it's Sinclair, but he's also the military leader of the station. Would that make a difference?

Vexkun

Filler is a thing, just not what most people now think it is. Most people think filler is anything that doesn't move the main plot forward. They forgot what episodic storytelling is, where, while the main storylines may not move forward, there is still world-building and character development in the standalone stories. Now, what filler really is. In anime, a filler is any content, episode, or storyline created by the animation studio that was not part of the original source material, such as a manga or light novel. Now, an anime that didn't do this was Fullmetal Alchemist. The first series outpaced the manga, so they made up their own story and ending. Years after the manga ended, we got Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, which follows the manga. Why Filler Exists: Outpacing the source: Anime episodes usually release weekly and take less time to make than manga chapters. Preventing a catch-up: Studios create original stories so the anime does not overtake or run out of manga material to adapt. Maintaining time slots: Long-running shows often air year-round without seasonal breaks, forcing studios to pad the broadcast schedule. One Piece falls into this one, at least till the newest arc that started this year, with a run of a 26 episodes season each year, going forward. Common Characteristics of Filler Non-canon: Events do not affect the official main story or character growth. Self-contained: Characters usually return to the exact same status quo once the filler ends. Variable quality: Some episodes feel cheap or pointless, while others offer fun character moments.

SbE

I'm pretty sure about why Morden didn't talk to whoever would be considered the main human representative on the station, which I agree is Sinclair, but those are major spoilers, so can't really discuss it here.

Marcus Hicks

I am definitely one of those people who would definitely love this episode if more of-or better yet, all of-its run time had been devoted to Ivanova's storyline...and yes, the tonal whiplash towards the end drove me bonkers. One interesting Easter Egg, though, is that Ivanova was reading a book by Harlan Ellison before the Rabbi arrives. He was a famous 20th century Science Fiction Writer, of course, but he was also a creative consultant on Babylon 5.

John

I won't discuss or reference any info from future episodes. Even if I know the answer, my posts on a current episode will be based on what we've seen thus far.

MertzRocks

On your intro: I think one of the best (but still frustrating) things any of us could say to you right now (and for some time yet) is: You do NOT understand... But you WILL...

MertzRocks

Pretty much THE creative consultant. Maybe a cameo somewhere far far down the road...

MertzRocks

Right. I'm sure of EXACTLY why Morden only talked to certain people on B5 too, but I'll keep it to myself until the time is right...

MertzRocks

Yes Ivanova's story here is considerably more important, but I don't dismiss the Walker storyline at all. For this episode, it balances some heavy drama with a little fun, even if you think that fun is kinda hokey. Maybe it is... *SHRUG* And the title more likely refers to Susan's story knocking -US- out than to the Mutai...

MertzRocks

The last line of my reply to Terrafan 👆

MertzRocks

IMDB schmyemdeebee 😜 Not every episode can be "Mind War" or (oh I can't mention that one yet! 👀😜🤣🤐)

MertzRocks

Season 1 is great! Hey there are 8 episodes left and I'll only say what -I- think: All 8 are total bangers! That's what I think. (17-18 is a two-part ep, and you should post them together if you can, for reasons that are too spoilery, so I won't say - peeps may already be crying spoiler on my ass lol...)

Walter

I don't agree with your interpretation that the Rabbi was trying to force her to forgive her father. He may have crossed a line to provide the opportunity for her to sit Shiva, but when she expressed that she did not want to the Rabbi didn't attempt to force the issue. She came to it on her own and, as it turns out, she needed to do it. Which, as the close family friend the Rabbi was, he probably knew. Sometimes the people in our lives can see more clearly than we can.

Stephen Collette

A samovar is a large metal urn or container used to heat and boil water, traditionally for making tea. Very, very traditional in Russia and Russian Jewish community. For many decades this would also be the inheritance value passed down within the family.

Stephen Collette

BTW, even this 'bad' episode has events/dialogue/things that do relate to later episodes and storylines. No spoilers. The general consensus is exactly what you said. The Ivanova story is great, and we just don't care about Walker Smith.

TricksterDaemon

Interesting trivia: The species Gyor is part of is the same species as the religious ccouple and their son who came to Babylon 5 to see if Dr Stephen Franklin could provide a cure.... who refused surgery for their son. The Onteen.

TricksterDaemon

Interesting that Walker Smith literally proved the people in the Mutai right... that humans are always trying to invade other's spaces. Babylon 5 permits the Mutai on the station because it is a well-regarded and deep part of the traditions of the mutari, that the fighters are 100% consenting (no Roman gladiator matches) and that not all cultures share the humans' need to ensure safety for people, even when those people are 100% fine with it NOT being safe. And it's always good to be able to keep an eye on things, made easier by keeping it open and legit.

D Scott Howard

As we learned in Ep 10 (Believers) it is important to respect the religious beliefs of other cultures, among both aliens and other humans whether we understand them or not. Not the strongest episode but MJS sneaks a little message in there. And, of course, a meddling Rabbi is a story from the depths of time.

MertzRocks

Snap I swore he was Brakiri. Okay... Onteen.

Chris Biebel

No, it would not make a difference. I'll just mention what's in the episode: Morden goes to 3 of the 5 main ambassadors. He avoids encountering a 4th (Kosh). He then later has Kosh stop in front of him and say "They are not for you." You can kind of piece together from that why (on the surface) he didn't talk to the humans. As for any deeper meanings, that would be spoilers.

bakamitai

A few contextual notes: 1. The UFC was started in 1993, the year before TKO was aired. During its early years, UFC fights were largely unregulated and the brutality led to political pressure to ban it. 2. The UFC's early format was (apparently) heavily inspired by the movie Bloodsport (1988) with Jean Claude van Damme. The "Mutai" in this episode is an obvious allusion to that movie's "Kumite" competition. (At least, it was obvious to me when I saw it on first airing.) 3. Walker Smith (Jr.) was the birth name of boxer Sugar Ray Robinson, widely regarded as the greatest pound-for-pound boxer of all time. He was "the best anybody had ever seen."