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Feat Adjustments (Patreon)

Published:
2015-11-16 17:38:15
Imported:
2026-06

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Hey, let's tweak a feat for fun!

How about Athletics?


+2 to climb and swim. At level 10+, if you've put 10 ranks into one of those skills, you get +2 more(to a total of +4) in the skill you invested in.


Issue, climb and swim tend to have static DCs. By the time you're level 10, with 10 ranks, you likely have the numbers to make it through most situations. Assuming you're a strong sort with 14 strength, that's +12 by the time the +4 comes, and if it's a class skill, which there's a good chance of it being, make that +15 On the plus side, making it +19(with the +4 of the feat) means even in a hurricane you just can't fail to swim. You can also swim around the world without issue. You may get tired because you're up past your bed time, but the swimming part? You got this covered.


Of course, you'll be able to do that anyway at level 14 without the feat.


Onwards, to solutions!


Let's borrow from Unchained a bit. I do like the ideas put forward by Paizo in this book.


Leave the skill bonuses in, but also make it unlock the skill unlocks of one of those two skills, player's choice. To keep things fair, make taking this prevent you from getting any other unlock via feat, since you can normally only unlock one skill this way, unless you're a fancy pants rogue who gets it as a class feature. Go rogues!


Now there's a feat you can sink your teeth into! And it'll get better at 5th, 10th, 15th and 20th level!


But what if you let everyone have all the unlocks?


Then I'd make it increase your ranks by 5, for sake of unlocks, meaning you get them earlier. Let it do it for both skills.


How does this idea sound to you? I'd love to hear from you!


Swim unlocks: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/swim

Climb unlocks: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/climb

Comments

Vivianne Claire

I always liked the idea of skill feats imvolving with level or rank, a book called Feats Reforged even considering such an idea: +2/+2 Skill Feats Benefit: You get a +2 bonus on all X and X skill checks. At 7th level, once per day each, as a swift action, you may reroll a failed X or X skill check. At 14th level, the bonus increases to +4 for those skills, and you may reroll both skills twice per day. Now admittingly, they have taken this a different direction then what you have in mind, especially since you have the increased bonus happen sooner, though the idea still shows how the skill feats could be improved. Having such an idea involving skill unlocks is actually really good, though I would have it apply to all such feats not just Athletics.

ponyfinder
>>993335

Sure, the idea is to get away from just 'more plusses!', since that's one thing Pathfinder has plenty of already, I believe.

Vivianne Claire
>>993335

Though how would you balance it, since Paizo has it that a skill unlock as its own feat? One could, since skill feats are already the weaker feats, just do it anyway though I'm not sure how such would work out. What you have above could be what is needed, though maybe others' thoughts are needed.

ponyfinder
>>993335

Quote: To keep things fair, make taking this prevent you from getting any other unlocks via feat, since you can normally only unlock one skill this way, unless you're a fancy pants rogue who gets it as a class feature. Go rogues!

Vivianne Claire
>>993335

I did notice that in my reading, though I wouldn't want to be quite so restrictive. I could see my character Mythos getting a skill unlock for both Perform (oratory) and Diplomacy. I can understand wanting to limit things, but Rogue can get like 10 skill lock with their class and feats while other classes can at best get half that through feats... or around that, I would have to check the numbers.

Vivianne Claire
>>993335

Ah my mistake, thought the feat allow for taking a skill unlock more then once. Hmm, well I guess one will have to do without... unless some houseruling comes into play. Still, I very much want skill unlocks to remain the specialty of the unchained rogue so I wouldn't have other classes have easy access to it. Perhaps though one could allow taking both Signature Skill and a 'duel skill' feat to gain an unlock from each?