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YOUR INPUT NEEDED!! Should I Evolve The Patreon To Account For All of My Content? (Patreon)

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2017-04-25 07:13:18
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In this video I make the case for why my patreon should be reformatted to account for all of my content, by switching to a monthly payment system. This would involve radically revamping the reward tiers, but it would give me carte blanche to expand on all of my other content by not having to worry so much about making at least 4 main-channel videos every month to keep Davoo employed. I NEED YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT THIS!!

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How To Evolve the Patreon?

Uploaded by Digibro After Dark on 2017-04-25.

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KHMakerD

I'm fine with this. You're content is worth it. Good luck!

Eric Arthur Blair

Whatever is going to work best for you sounds good in my books.

Eme Flores

I'm fine.... but I already cheat by having it at 1 max charge per monthy so yeaaaaah you might wanna check which percentage is doing that already AND would be fine with you new plan

Anonymous

Yeah, I cheat by having a monthly max charge already too.

HopoMies

Another "cheater" here. Go for monthly, that'll be just fine. Though I love your main channel stuff, After Dark is very entertaining in its own right and I'll gladly support you on everything you do.

Zak Penrith

Have you ever thought about doing a sort of Kinda Funny and then Kinda Funny Games type of thing? So Digibro and then Digibro Afterdark. Keep Digibro the way it is on the per video thing and then make Afterdark a monthly one? Maybe just another something to think about

The Electric Hobo

I'm at the $5 per vid level and I have it capped at one vid and I don't mind moving up to $10 per month. Making the Patreon monthly makes sense to me as well. And if the whole page is redesigned to focus on everything you do, and you make the levels worth it, I'd be far more willing to up it to an even higher amount like $15 or $20. It currently just doesn't feel worth it to pay anything more than $5 a month for videos I don't care about much anyways. I'm only looking to support your career as a whole.

Guusagi

I'd go for all video content being here and the monthly sub thing. Good luck :)

The Electric Hobo
>>4859095

Oh and why not do more live streams that may or may not be exclusive to Patrons of a certain level? Or maybe just make the chat Patrons only. Those were really fun when you did a few a couple months back. :)

raytsh

I'd prefer the monthly payment. I have a cap of 3 videos in place right now though.

Anonymous

I would be willing to pay the $5 monthly since I want to support the majority of your and Davoo's content. The per vid is nice to keep you guys accountable, but there's no denying the insane amount of vids you guys crank out, so no worries. As far as what I would like to see in the future, I enjoyed the highly edited deviations from your "Main Line" content like the Berserk Digi Bro Discussion and the Otaku Workout. More creative stuff like that is highly welcomed. I'd be interested to see more finely tuned Manga Mondays, but honestly I skip all the blogs and "per day of the week" vids in general. Hope this helps and good luck finding a new place.

Anonymous
>>4859246

I would also love to see the return of Davoo's main channel game analysis, so maybe giving him a budget and having extra editors would be encouraging. Whatever keeps you guys afloat, you're livin the dream.

raytsh

I mostly care for the main channel videos, the anime and general media related vlogs. I skip all the rap videos and the manga mondays/vinyl/game and stuff videos. That said, I would not mind to move up to the 5USD monthly compared to the 3USD cap I have in place right now. Depending on the reward I would also not mind to move up to 10 per month.

11000100

digi this sounds like a pretty tough decision to make, if people do up their pledges to match what they're currently paying monthly then obviously do it. i like your idea of having patreon money as a budget so you can pay more people to do shit. but i will still only pledge $5 a month so this doesn't really apply to me

Taya Toxin

Hmm, this is a loaded topic indeed. I've been slacking on your main videos for a moment and your vlogs have been much easier to get through with my schedule since I don't have to put eyes on them; not that I don't go back to them on my off time. I dig you as a content creator period, so that's why I didn't bother capping my pledge. I'm already giving you $20, what's another 5 or 10 to compensate the After Dark line that truthfully gets more attention from me. Again, not that I don't value your view on anime in general; actually having a ball with the weekly Eromanga cast. Putting names in videos seems a tad pointless to me, but I suppose I can see the appeal of being recognized. Another tier could include some live streams or scheduled anime/discussion nights; play some games, discuss some music, etc.

A random patreon

15 dollars a month sounds like a good tier point for me. Just whatever you do for it, don't force yourself to do it. I'd rather something fortnightly or monthly that you are happy with than something weekly that you feel like you are wracking your brain to figure out what to do.

Jared Beare

I like the idea of a monthly model but I would like to have a guarantee there will be at least 1 main channel analysis video a month. Plus I currently cap at $5 a month and can't really increase it, is it possible to keep the commentary's at the $5 tier?

digibro
>>4859932

The commentaries will have to go up to 10 a month, but I can definitely guarantee at least one main channel video a month (in the style you're used to).

Athenor

I don't have a particularly long comment to make here, besides the fact I would support and subscribe to monthly payments and the reward cost increase.

Anonymous

I can afford significantly more then 5 bucks and the change would give me a good incentive since I watch everything you do.

Taylor Mott

Hi Digi, I support the switch to monthly pledge as it just makes more sense. I'm a patron because you're a creative who's content I want to see more of in the world and I support you doing you. I could care less about the quantity of videos you release. I would rather take comfort in the fact that you're releasing a video at all because you're proud of the result and had something to say.

Tariq

Just do what ever you see fit And we are with you ;) All the best

CureEtude

I'm personally all for the change. I am one of those who feel like I'm paying for the "Digibro Experience", which mostly consists of your after dark vlogs and podcasts. Don't get me wrong, still love the main channel videos, but I'd rather be able to just fund you to do whatever you want. I'm a $5 patron without a cap (since you don't make more than 5 videos on your main channel anyways), and would love to just switch to paying $25 a month. As for extra content, the decompression chamber-esque videos sound good to me. Mostly just want long videos I can put on while I work.

Anonymous

I don't care about anime at all. I barely watch the main channel videos. The best thing you've released in months is Fat and Dangerous, and that's the kind of content I'd be happy to pay for. I'm always considering un-patroning, because I just don't care at all about the main series videos I'm ostensibly paying for. So go ahead and change it!

Sam Ybarzabal

I respect your main channel videos, but Digibro After Dark is what drew me into your content. I would be more than happy to pay more money for more tiers and more of that type of content. I love your long ass commentary videos. They are my go-to for studying or just general background listening while I do other shit. And yeah, I think you're starting to develop a following of people more interested in your "philosophy" stuff than your anime stuff. Stick more ADs on your main channel. Give the Patreon more "After Dark" content. I would love a reward tier for stuff like "livestreaming" with Digi or Q&A access w/ Digibro or more exclusive chat access. More content that lets us pick your brain. Ultimately, if you want a more comprehensive overview, you need to poll your current followers and see the numbers. That will give you a more quantitative overview. Also fuck yeah I want my name on that shit. $$$

Infocalypse

I mostly care about drunken rants & stuff like the Old Ass Anime Cast; if you switched to monthly, I'd be willing to increase my patronage / drop the cap. (I mean, I don't expect you to stop making content just because it's monthly, considering you're currently doing lots of videos you're not getting paid for.) As much as I like your mainline videos, a smaller number of longer/better mainline videos would be a good tradeoff for me, and if pledging more will make that possible, I'm in favor.

Michael Ohr

I cap at 2 videos anyway so switching to $10 a month wouldn't change much for me. I watch basically all your content so it does kind of make more sense to pay you a flat fee for all of your output.

ZigZagKangaroo

I think it's a great idea. If you feel forced to make videos also makes it less fun for yourself. And for me, it's easier to lose the whole fee at once instead of spread out over the month. Downside is that people with very few money won't be able to pay you anymore.

Paco Silva

I personally would love to support the entire Digibro experience. I've been following you for about a year and the stuff that I enjoy the most is the vlogs and the podcasts. I also really enjoy the main channel content, but I usually gravitate towards the videos that are more conceptual (subverting anime tropes) or about a particular aspect of a show (Kill la Kill's inventive animation). I pledge 1$ per video but I'm willing to put between 3 or 5 dollars per month if you switch.

Donovan Rodgers

I'm at $5/month right now _just_ for the commentaries. I don't have enough money to justify to myself paying more for those so I'll probably unpledge.

PatientBearBeta

I think the positives of setting up a budget and better organization is a good enough justification to try out a monthly payment structure. Hopefully everyone stays at the same payment level to support your content!

Katharsis939

Well, in my case, I have no time to listen to most podcasts. I'm anti-alcoholic, especially on sundays, don't share your taste of music and mangas and don't care about mail-unpackings. In short: All this unscripted videos and round about 90% of After Dark I'm just not interested in. Videos of the Digibro-Channel always get to the point, they want to make and with Patreon I was willing to support that. As far as I understand, my new position as Patreon would counteract exactly that and to be honest, I think, I would stop paying. But I'm intrigued, what's the others opinion is. Greetings: Katharsis

Christian Baker

I'd prefer monthly considering I already think of it as pledging $15/month rather than paying for individual videos. I also like the idea of a patron exclusive livestream/chat every month or so.

Aldo López

Whatever desicion you take I will still support you the same, 5 usd a month, sorry I have other expenses

Os Donnelly

It honestly makes no difference to me.

Michael Krause

I personally enjoy the Digibro content more than After Dark, but there are interesting topics you touch upon in After Dark that I can see not making sense on the main channel. I'd be interested to have Manga Mondays be on the main channel with more in-depth thought. I enjoy all the videos you put on Digibro, the Scum's Wish video is what convinced me to become a patron, and I enjoy hearing your opinions on anime in general be it from the main channel, Finish or Fail or your podcast with Guy. If I could get more regular content from your main channel, I'd have few qualms about raising my pledge outside of my monetary situation and because of that, a monthly goal would suit me better. In any case, I'll continue to support you no matter what path you choose because I enjoy your voice and what you discuss.

AmbushDeer

Personally I prefer a month payment over the update payment. This is a more clear way for the patrons to decide how much to pay to support the artist and there work. But I will say It comes down to what works best to motivate and support the artist. If you find meeting your goals and deadlines for projects with having each finished work represent payment then I say keep at it. If you want to put more time or effort between projects and experiment more than a monthly would be a better plan.

Anonymous

I haven't seen most of your main channel videos. I listen to a lot of podcasts and watch the after dark channel or listen to the "digi bros" channel as podcasts. I pay you because of all those videos and podcasts even the ones that aren't on your channel. For me there is no reason to base the patron on the main channel videos. Yes, patron all the other content too.

Munkeh

I do support you for your main and side channel content, and I would be fine with this, but I don't know what % of your patreon pledges may not increase their pledge if you switch to monthly. Maybe its only 10% of patrons, but I think for at least the first month you'll lose money. I would not advise the switch but I'll support you either way.

AmbushDeer

I missed the whole point in you question earlier, sorry about that. I pay to support you as an artist. I watch Digibro edited analyst videos more than any of your other content. But I vote go monthly, make the videos and podcast you want to talk about. The reason I support anyone on patreon is I like the work and I want to support the artist who creates the work. I pay about $5 month, and I plan to pay at least that much regardless of what payment system you chose to go with.

Destin Harmon

I'm not able to watch the whole thing right now, but I don't need to just to suggest this. Digi, you need to stop trying to sell us specific videos. You want to pigeon hole specific videos and want to consider their value independently and making sure whatever you attach to the patreon billing feels worthwhile for us. That makes sense, but you really just need to offer a simpler system. We just need to subscribe to you a flat monthly fee, because we want you to make CONTENT. Whatever you want. You don't owe us "Season 7 of Digibro edited by Davoo" or whatever. We want you to be able to work. Pursue whatever projects you deem fit. A flat subscription is easy as hell to justify, too. One benefit could simply be a nod in the credits. The more complicated a "rewards" tier system, the more people have to consider what is the most "efficient" or "worthwhile", and people are fucking lay-men, Digi. They don't want to think. They want a purple $4.99 Subscribe button. Other payment options should be additional opt-in rewards tier for a specific thing, that can be temporary and ever changing, or written to be open to a request through a private or public line. Or anything else. But the core should be a flat monthly rate. Simple.

A looming creature of darkness

When I first started as a patron, I didn't realize how much content you were putting out, so I didn't realize how much I was giving you monthly, so a flat monthly rate might be a good idea. That said, psychologically, people will probably give you more money if it's a small value per video rather than a large value per month. This is why microtransactions are a thing. People find it easier to give lots of little bits of money rather than one big lump. Which you should take into consideration. Also, I'm here for Digi After Dark, quite frankly. I enjoy your vlogs more than your main videos.

Jon I

I like monthly payments, I'd gladly ramp up my donation accordingly, I watch all main channel and 20% side channel (basically anything about anime, philosophical art discussion, and writing gooder), I don't care about rewards, I care about supporting an artist who has inspired me to think differently and critically about the content I consume

Branko Burcksen

If you switch to monthly, I will raise my contribution from $5 to $25 or $30. I already pay for whatever number of videos you make in a month, so that increase is basically the same amount I already give. I hesitated for the longest time becoming a patron BECAUSE it was per video. I do not care about tiers or rewards. I care about content. I have been willing to pay more because I have gotten to know your work better. I think the 'per video' could be a barrier to entry for some people who might want to contribute, but do not know how much they will end up paying every month. (When I first began contributing to you, I did not know about the limit.) I think a greater number of people may be willing to give a little extra overtime as they see more videos and witness your work evolve. That got me hooked! Choose whichever method you think is best, I will patron either way.

LumRanmaYasha

I was in the camp that hesitated to patron you for a long time because of the per video payment cycle, before I realized I could set a monthly cap. I generally prefer Patreons with a monthly payment cycle because I like knowing exactly how much I'm giving per month. I'm invested in you as a personality and the narrative of your content, and you are one of the most incredibly prolific creators I follow, so I'll still patron you should you make the switch. I admit that incentives do play a role in how much I patron someone because the idea of receiving more content helps me justify the expense. I finally decided to pledge to the $5 tier because I liked the idea of receiving 3-4 more hours of your content every month in the form of commentaries and patron-exclusive vlogs. So ideally I'll continue to pledge at a level where I can receive that content if possible, provided I can find the finances to continue patroning other creators I want to support as well.

Nick Loewen

As a person who caps out at $20 (and would probably bring my patron up to $20/month), which I think is rarely relevant for your production cycle, I would absolutely support this. Maybe I'm projecting but I feel like your last two videos (Masamune-kun and Scum's Wish) were fueled by a need to produce a main line video and less by having anything personal to say about them. Not that I didn't like the videos, but clearly you have less investment in them than your Old Ass Anime Cast, which I've been loving so far and is way more valuable to me than those two videos. I wouldn't say that I think After Dark is the "main channel", but I do like your after dark videos just as much if not more than your main videos even though there's less production value in them. I like the monthly idea because it gets around the issue of deciding what to patron and instead just gives you a set amount of money each month, which clearly you would like to have. Concerns: It might lead to you producing less main line videos, which I think would be a bit of a loss to the community. A lot of your goal is to change the state of anime discourse and without the presentaion that Davoo's editing gives, I don't think you would be able to have as much of an effect. It also seems like this might lead to Davoo making less money if you're less inclined to make the 4 vids each month, but obviously that's something you and him would work it. I'd also be a little sad if the you and davoo editing videos were to paywalled above $20, I have a feeling that that's a mental breakpoint for a lot of people. Edit: Don't care about names in videos, I don't like the idea of individual rewards either since it'll just water down your content and eat up your time.

Beta-is-my-Name

I have a very slim time contingent for watching videos, and I do not use it for getting involved in comments. I gave after dark a try and 2 more but (for me ) it is to obscure to irrelevant. I'm here for the main channels quality content and only with 1$ a month caped to show my general support for your content, because I enjoy but not love it. This may be viewpoint of the bulk of low end patrons (I could be wrong about this but most wont take the time to formulate an opinion) .I for me don't bring in the big cash nor I'm jumpy and would carry most sensible changes.