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A1/A2 (as ladies) (Patreon)

Published:
2024-12-18 00:30:01
Edited:
2025-05-02 18:51:14
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2026-06
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i have put an embarassing amount of thought into this.... but am having a hard time organizing said thoughts...lemme know if u wanna listen to me yap anyways ahahah.....

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charlie

ABAKDJSBSNSJEBEMDJD

Em

OH MY GOD I WAS GONNA PROMT THIS THIS MONTH. GIFTS

Em

Also yes please please please yap about them GODDAMN

charlie

HELLO WE ARE FINALLY BEING GIFTED THE BLOND WOMEN

L

TELL ME EVERYTHING

Rebecca

AWOOGA AWOOGA

vatican

I HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS ABOUT GENDER

Em

I HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS AND NO WORDS. I love them so much??? The fact that a1 is almost identical but a2 is so sweet and delicate and fae-femme looking. Look at all that Gender she has. Bet she hates it

Em

BLOOOOOOOOOONDE WOMEN THIS IS NOT A DRILL

charlie

ohhhhhh she’s miserable she wants to look more like a1 bc that’s everything a woman should be but also looking more like a1 would make her more masc I AM ON YHR VLOVK

Rav

Holy forking shirtballs!

anthroxagorus

Please share your thoughts on gender because I'm so confused about mine 😂 😭

izzy craw

I MEAN THIS SO NROMALLY I WOULD KILL AND DIE FOR THEM

vatican

I just thought that it was neat how A1’s character design is exactly the same, except as a man it reads as a feminine-ish man, and as a woman, it reads as a masculine-ish woman The character design is mostly just “heavily queercoded, mostly straight person” And its always a balance of genuine self expression and being palatable to the social circles you want to be included in

vatican

YESS A2’s character design is.. having a body that fits the societal ideal for your assigned sex and being unhappy with it but leaning into your assigned gender role/presentation because you benefit from maintaining/upholding the status quo (and you think its a lost cause anyway)

o.Kayland

I HAVE LOST ALL ABILITY TO THINK I AM STUNNED HOLYYY

vatican

and w that being said. i think while in the normal verse, a2 wants to be a1’s wife, this verse a2 wants to be a1’s partner like she’d want to show a1 thats shes capable of violence, she’d want to be an asset

L

She’s on a rotisserie in my mind I want to stare at her for hours

vatican

well i think the main thought is that, these ladies would just… not be the same characters at all.. alot of a1/a2’s design and arcs rely heavily on their place at the top of social hierarchy and also the rejection/acceptance of manhood

vatican

and also a2’s autism would read completely differently. girl a2 would not be treated the way a2 is treated

Em

Also I love that A2’s still so so off-putting

moonmoon

it's perfect omfg

vatican

my husband calls that lizard mode

vatican

theyre so pretty and i love them… a little too much

Jess

blonde women what the fuck!!!!!!!! i know i always want to hear you yap. i love that a1 looks basically the same, that femme fetale ass bitch. a2 is giving me all the feelings, stunning but off? so pretty so girly but wrong?

morrigan

Woman A2 is so my type it's actually embarrassing omg

vatican

also this a2 would be a top

Em

GOD I wish you could tell us more about the ladies without spoiling everything in the comic 😂

charlie

i’m nodding along frantically like they are fundamentally the same but societal expectations and the defiance thereof are so intrinsic to who they are as characters that it would change them irrevocably to hold different places in society

vatican

woman a2 is EXACTLY normal a1’s type.

Jess

YES!! i really don't understand what it is? but it makes me feel more rubbed the wrong way then man a2.

vatican

girl a2 is… all that rage and bloodlust with nowhere to go

Em

I am so intrigued by the ways their lives would have diverged from the male versions. Would there still be be huge amounts of violence? I assume lady a2 wouldn’t join the military? But like what’s the equivalent? Pretty sure Charlie and I once hypothesized about her getting knocked up and married at 18 or something. I need to know. Everything.

vatican

so much of a1 is exactly the same, bc ive just written him as woman character. so much of him is performance and fighting for respect and carving space for himself where he doesnt belong

Jess

we have wanted this for so long!! i have never seen someone so aggressively femme. like ive never thought of a2's masculinity that way. i have so many thoughts. a1 looks so cool, i love her. i would accept comparisons to femme a1.

Alec

am i???? a heterosexual????? i’m 👀👀👀

Alec

these women im

vatican

thats where i get lost… like it just… wouldnt be the same characters or story… so much of what.. influenced a1 to be in.. this line of work is bc of the 92 arc… and… the 92 arc is so. heavily gendered

morrigan

It's also crazy that A1 looks so similar but man A1 I'm just like that's my little guy I want to put in a terrarium buuuut woman A1 has me 😳🫣🥴

vatican

like i dont think a2 would be in the military but i also cant see her being married either…like i dont know… would she go to like. i dont know. nursing school?? IT?? so much of a2’s late 90s-early 2000s arc is… like.. just taking the path of least resistance and not reaching his potential tho

Jess

i feel like a2 would be more palatable than a1 as girls. she could be really quiet and bad socially but really popular cause shes so pretty. whereas a1 would be more rough and independent and not as likable as a woman. i have so many thoughts.

Alec

im having a gay panic but in the opposite direction where i suddenly realize i might not be as gay as previously considered

Em

OH GOD any version of a2 as a nurse is spine-chilling, haha. But that’s so interesting, about him just floating through life. I was thinking of gendered jobs and it’d be so funny if she took the path of like. Early childhood education. Any version of a2 and a room full of 5-year-olds is nightmare fuel.

charlie

is she also a domme

Em

Excuse you is that the Cartier bracelet on a1??

vatican

i agree w the a2 bit, being a beautiful 5’1” woman makes life easier in alot of different aspects but i disagree with the a1 bit. i think girl a1 would be just as popular, men are obsessed w weird butch girls, speaking from first hand experience

Jess

a2 would be an evil nurse for sure. 92 arc is gendered??? like...it kind of fits into my theories but not really. i don't know what to make of that.

vatican

cant believe u caught that

Em

I simply must zoom

Jess

WOO HOO BLONDE WOMEN BLONDE WOMEN I GAVE UP HOPE

charlie

hmmmmmm eden or aiden?

vatican

Short for Gethsemane ahahah

Em

Ooohh intriguing!

Em

So it’s a family full of biblical gardens? 😂

vatican

I LOVE THEM I MISS DRAWING PRETTY DRESSES

charlie

wait okay we had women names for them back when you first teased lady angels but i feel like they don’t work any more

charlie

KINDERGARTEN TEACHER A2 OH GOD EMILY WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

charlie

i think a1 is an it girl in every iteration like……. as a character they’ve just got that baddie je ne sais quois

vatican

okay wait. since a1/a2 is male yuri, would the story need to be reconstructed into female yaoi or would it just be normal yuri now

charlie

fully restructured for female yaoi but this time it’s a1 with the yaoi hands

vatican

childkiller a2 in every universe

Jess

yeah im changing my mind about femme a1. im so curious what her personality would be like. how differently she might have been treated young.

lizard

absolutely devastating to hear…. free trans A2

Nico Bear

a2 in the white dress screams ballet school to me. Trained to be graceful, in control, ultra fem, etc

vatican

also a1 has be an it girl in every universe, his entire character is try-hard-chameleon whose entire sense of self worth comes from being liked and desired

Sabrina

A2 reminds me of Claudia from Interview with the Vampire, beautifully ethereal but deadly (and looks pretty with blood staining her dress).

Em

Okay really important question. Would she still eat lettuce like a monster?

Jess

i don't prefer them like you feared but i am obsessed. i want to see them in more outfits and know everything about them. new barbies!!

charlie

love highfemme michael still being a garbage disposal cryptid

charlie

wait be honest did femme!a2 or that one ex of a1s in look homeward (vera?) come first

mizumonomartin

maybe Lucifer could become Lilith and Ares -> Artemis/Athena 👀 idk about Michael but I can see that female A1 has the necklace so it must be some alternative spelling, or maybe it's just Michael (rarely used for women too) or maybe the necklace is different??

vatican

femme a2 came first 😬

vatican

love twisting the knife

royautical

PLEASE GIVE US THE YAPS.....

royautical

These two make me so fucking bisexual I could scream

charlie

that gender knife cuts DEEP

vatican

in this verse a1’s type is really big burly military dudes

charlie

one of our OG femme a2 names (pre MILF art) was mary so like idk how common the virgin mother is as a confirmation gift but like it seems possible?

lizard

hmmm hmmm hmmmm does a2’s wish to be a wife vs. partner change more along a1’s gender change or a2’s ?? now gnawing on girl!a1/boy!a2 and boy!a1/girl!a2 and how it changes the dynamic………….

vatican

wait thomas being exactly the same in this verse is so funny

Em

Oohhh the necklace is a good point!

Sabrina

I need them to date so m!a1/2 can see and realize their feelings

vatican

i want a1/femme!a2 to hook up so i can hurt a2 some more

vatican

i also want the a1s to hook up

Jess

i really like mary and lilith. are there any girl angels?

charlie

so does a1

mizumonomartin

YES it could definitely be a miraculous medal necklace with the Virgin Mary in it. It's pretty common for baptisms/first communions/confirmations

ILoveMyKnives

How is A2 so tiny!??!?!??! This is breaking my 🧠

vatican

its not..necessarily about…um. biblical references. or angels as a whole. its uh

vatican

please look at the medallion 😶🫡😶🫡😶🫡😶🫡

mizumonomartin

it's about someone killing Lucifer (👀) with a big ass flamin sword ??

Jess

Wait are they Michael and Lucifer because a2 wants to kill a1? What would the girl equivalent be?

charlie

…….. themis?

vatican

the dainty girl that is in a2’s soul 😔

Em

How’s the committee contract for non-canon versions of the characters? 😂

charlie

or astraea?

vatican

thanks for letting me yap im going to play roblox now bye guys 🥰❤️

charlie

go have fun with mr husband i hope this chaos is enough to sustain you for a while

Jess

Emily asking the most important questions

Jess

bye I have 10 smirnoffgates worth of questions

charlie

the way vati has me extrapolating and reaching like a public defense attorney over a one off au of his own ocs is actually terrifying

Nestor

I'm such a lesbian omfggggg

doctorgraves

losing it fr thank you mister vatican

doctorgraves

I'm bewitched by a2's unsettling gaze

L

YES!!!!! I was trying to think of who she reminded me of!!!!!

L

AHHHHHHHHHHHH

Em

OH ALSO is a1 still six feet tall?

vatican

both a1s are 5’11”, femme! a2 is 5’1”

Em

Incredible thank you. Shameful that I misremembered his height, tho 😂

vatican

its okay he tells people hes 6 ft. as ppl who are 5’11 are wont to do

baby sardine

high femme a2 just one chance please i could be the butch victim of ur dreams (i am 5'4 and arab i do not fit the a1 bill)

Jess

sternum scar!!! im in love with femme a1. i cant stop thinking about them.

royautical

Fem A2 is so beautiful... She's so small and 'fragile' looking which is precisely the part of normal A2 I adore to see under all that Beef

vatican

yeah!! i think these designs reveal alot about the original designs

royautical

I don't know where along the line you decided to make A2 a hulking and terrifying individual but I love that just as equally. It's the juxtaposition that makes him so beautiful

vatican

i think a2 being huge makes scrawny little a1 being his protector just that little bit more compelling

royautical

Fem A2 looks like she listens to Hole

ILoveMyKnives

I mean if you miss drawing pretty dresses I feel like some more femme!hannigram is always an option...

royautical

That's amongst the most brutal things you have said. You can't let A2 hear that sentence

neo

oh ... i am feeling really normal about fem a2 (lie of incredible proportions)

neo

i am generally just Thinking about both of them. i would say. and will be for the next 7-10 business years

Helios

oh....... see i dont usually want a1 carnally hes too relatable but. f!a1......... i Need her. and a2 i Desire but f!a2.... im platonically obsessed. that haunting stare......... i want to chew on her.

SailorSuu

When you look into her eyes, the depth of her rage resonantes with your own. It’s like glancing at an old friend when you hear them screaming in their own head, echoes of kindred misery. *flies awayyyyyyy*

Nico Bear

Does f!a1 have a fml breakup mode hair style too???

vatican

i love fem a2 so much, i need her to ruin my life

vatican

f!a1 is so much cooler than a1 tbh fbfnnf

vatican

yes ahahah she also grows it out

Mostlytoastie

AS A LESBIAN CAN I JUST SAY UHHHH WOW EXCELLENT 10/10.... A1's butch bob????? excellent no notes???