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Bonus Audio: War Coffee (Patreon)

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2025-09-29 04:46:00
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2025-09
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In this bonus audio, David and @joyofnapping discuss:

Entering the time of Max Q Part 2

Reflections on current events from the past couple weeks

One Battle After Another Review (WITH SPOILERS)

PATRONS: You can get this audio in your podcast app by going to patreon.com/davechen, going to the "My Membership" section, and copying and pasting the RSS link to your podcast app.

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Christopher Yee Mon

I would implore you to watch F.D. Signifier's take on the movie on his FD Streams channel. https://youtu.be/Spp84ovOMPE?si=aNilVRtDHuS3LB27 He's a really great black culture video essayist on youtube. His main and 2nd channels have a lot of good essays and takes. The FD streams channel is unedited takes from his twitch streams. But basically I largely agree with everything in his take. It's astonishing to me to see that anyone who isn't black can't see how terrible the black representation is on screen in this movie. The majority of it centers on Teyana Taylor's character. The first half hour of this movie is completely UNWATCHABLE. I felt like I was in the twilight zone. There is no black woman on this planet walking around that is Teyana Taylor's character in this movie. She is one note, absurd, hyper violent, hyper sexual, fetishization of a black activist. I don't know if any black woman is gonna be able to get through that first half hour. She's not a real character. She is a white guy male gaze fetish fantasy. Basically every single beat and character in the first half hour is fetishization or can easily be identified as problematic and that undercuts the movement and doesn't give it a fair representation at all, and it's just gross. "jungle pussy"? really? 🤦 That and the representation of left wing revolutionary action just being equal to left wing terrorism is also cringe. This also pissed me off in Eddington as well. It's a harmful false equivalency to keep putting left wing terrorism up on screen as if it's a real thing in 2025, and then calling it revolutionary action, as if that's what's actually going on. The numbers don't bear that out. The majority of political violence in the US is right wing, by a huge margin. But between Eddington, and this movie, it seems to be some kind of screenwriting crutch that they keep coming back to. Left activism is kinda played for laughs and looked down on, when framed from the French 75 group. The only exception to this is Regina Hall's character. Her performance and portrayal is brimming with nuance and pathos, and she only gets a few minutes on screen. A portrayal like hers would have made more sense for Teyana Taylor's character. Coming away from it, the part that is most perplexing and the confusing is how good the latino representation of revolutionary action is. That actually did hit the right note of being realistic but still embellished slightly to match what the movie's overall tone is. Benicio Del Toro's character is hyper competent and organized and it centers the revolutionary action on helping people first, which is actually what it looks like. I have been trying to figure out how that depiction is so pitch perfect, but the first half hour was so terrible. The main problem is that there's no beat that acknowledges how not the norm the French 75 are. It acts as if what the latinos in town are doing is the same as what the French 75 do. There's no repudiation of Teyana Taylor as a character. It doesn't even make sense logically watching Regina Hall's character work with Teyana Taylor's character. Movie doesn't make space for these things. After that first half hour, it does get a lot better once the family drama that it actually is, sets in, but the whole thing is built on shaky ground to begin with. It's a major L for black representation, black women representation and black activism representation on screen

Brandon Lee Tenney

Well said. I just got out of the movie and it left me cold, demoralized, and after reading your thoughts, I agree with many of them! I don’t even think the filmmaking is that good, re: the “bravura filmmaking” David mentions. We’ll definitely be in the minority opinion for this one, Christopher!

AtticusMT

What would you call the filmmaking, if not bravura? Pedestrian? Amateurish? Rote? I can understand someone having a complex—and even negative—reaction to the CONTENT of the movie (I personally did not), but it’s very perplexing to me to see someone label the filmmaking as not very good. The level of skill and talent on display in every aspect of the filmmaking is, in my opinion, masterful. Given how disjointed a film shoot is, it is stunning how sustained the energy of the movie is, how the camera moves through complicated scenes without ever confusing the viewer, how the brilliant use of long lens sows tension during the car chases, the acting, the propulsive score, the tonal shifts that somehow don’t feel out of place… It’s all a masterclass of filmmaking. We must not have watched the same movie?

Joy o Napping

I am sad that I spread misinformation 😭