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Orion Heads! (Patreon)

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2019-12-13 05:41:37
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Want to help us out with a little internal debate?
Some want a full head refresh that is more realistic.
Some want a more old school head with a center split bar.

I get both camps (though you can guess I'm in the former camp). I also know the head of a mech is pretty much always a critical iconic element.
The question is, do we change a head to make the mech more appealing to new players, or is it too important here to the Orion?

I haven't seen many comments against the new head for the time it's been public, but you haven't seen options either.
Cast your votes!

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ShimmeringSword

Oh and yes, I DO want the grogs to make the grog case if you have it. Or if you're a grog that likes the departed look I want to hear that too.

Andrew Dickinson

NuHead seems to fit better with the torso than OldHead.

Peter Holthaus

Definitely the NuHead. The center split bar makes no sense visibility-wise and really disturbs the pilots field of view. Maybe a horizontal bar along the front edge of the NuHead center window to make changing broken parts easier.

Taylor Shead

I'm a frog that likes a more upright head than a flatter head but I do like these as well, classic preferred. I'd be happy both ways!

Anonymous

NuHead, definitely.

Anonymous

I didn't even know this was debatable. Left Nuhead for sure

Anonymous

Left for sure~~~

Zera

Never been a huge fan of the Orion so no emotional horse in this race. Gut reaction is one on the right. It just looks cooler to me even though I know it makes less sense. On the bright side, I'd argue the Orion is one of those rare mechs where the head isn't all that important to the identity so long as it's tucked in the torso. I always thought the Orion's awkward, insanely asymmetric design was it's defining characteristic, especially the massive LRM shoulder.

Anonymous

The left one. It just goes very well with the whole design.

Mike

I'm with Zera in that it never occurred to me that the head is what people considered iconic about the Orion.

Phil

The head isn't the thing that identifies the orion - its the unique profile. In which case, the left head (or a variant of it, perhaps with a slightly narrow central panel) is the way forward.

Swen Decker

Lets be honest here, either is way better than the classic, the orion never had a decent cockpit. Id say the left but what i really dislike about the right are the thick struts of it. Id guess with the way finer struts of the left one you could even give it a demanded center split bar without changing too much of the left shape. And... isnt the srm4 arm-mounted?

Anonymous

I agree with several others - the exact head design is not its distinctive feature. In fact. I can't even recall from memory what the original Orion head looks like! For me, it's all about the asymmetry with the triangular missile launcher in the torso.

Anonymous

Your Orion design is what convinced me to join this page. I think it is the best version of the mech I have ever seen. The cockpit looks perfect.

Anonymous

That's not the SW head on the right, that's the Tyco Thor head. It's almost like you're deliberately making it look like a turd. I KNOW you're a better artist than that. Could you put up a real Succession Wars version? Keep the wide front of version A and split it.

Anonymous

Left times ten million. I love the left one.

Anonymous
>>30014959

Dang bro be cool! You can just say “I don’t really like it”

Franky Waky

The NuHead looks better and more realistic. Compare it to older fighter aircraft that don't have bubble canopies. Not many have a cross brace in the middle of the pilot's line-of-sight.

Dan Hegarty

I’m an old school guy but the left head looks better!

Anonymous

Putting a thick strut right in front of the pilot's line of sight does not seem like something that will increase the effectiveness of the mech or extend the pilot's life.

Anonymous
>>30015410

not being able to see directly in front of you does make it harder to drive.

Sororitas Cupid

I like the head on the right, I do. But the Orion is old. It's one of the early designs in the lore and I think the head on the left better reflects that. So yes, the head on the left gets the lore nerd seal of approval. Also the head on the left just looks better full stop. But you have a lot of people saying that already.

Ryan Voigt

I have gotten so used to the MWO head, I had to look up the old one.

Anonymous

The one on the right is a bit too bug-like. Something more fitting to a light 'mech. I love the one on the left.

BFenix

I enjoy both cockpits, but the Nu is playing safe. I get that the SW one might ruffle some jimmies, but it's far less generic than most and I'd pick it for that reason. I guess one should consider Battletech's audience too though, SW might appeal newer players better for the sleek look but grognards might not enjoy seeing such a classic not looking like what they expect...

Anonymous

The new one is beautiful. The iconic thing of the Orion was the LRM placed in the shoulder and the head, frankly was quite goofy. Keep the new head. The new Orion looks gorgeous

James Bixby

the Nu Head's arraignment of Cockpit panels does not do it for me. I am more a fan of either a three panel like on the Orion IIC or making it a single large panel. of the choices presented I would favor old school style

Anonymous

Painting wise right appears easier than left.

Lexikon

I really like the head on the right. The practical arguments for left-head are sound though. Both look good.

Anonymous

That said I like the one on the left much more.

Anonymous

I believe my comment on the new art was that the modernizing of the head was the best part of the design.

Anonymous

I voted for the older head strictly because it will be easier to paint the cockpit. The new one is far more pleasing on the eye. I really hope that the antenna makes it into the final design.

Mike

With the SRM pod being in the torso, I'm curious what's in the left arm. If that's just medium laser, that's the best armored one ever.

Malintus
>>30050867

The size of it will make it easier to implement the SRM-4 in the ON1-V design

Mike
>>30050867

True enough. I forgot that was a thing since I never felt that was a great trade-off. Now that you bring it up, I vaguely remember running a modified 1V where I swapped the AC/10 with an AC/5, adding 2 heat sinks, and maxing out the armor.

Andrew McKenna

The old style just fits, it looks solid. The new style is too much along the lines of MWO art with lines going everywhere making a mess - and with all the people complaining about CGL designs like the Atlas III canopy, this new canopy here is actually going to have more weak points than the old style, so many pieces that can flex and break in such a critical spot.

Stewart Spencer

I'm a Grog, but I'd totally go for the Nu-head.

Mike

I wonder which one people would go for if there was a third choice of the left one of the other Orion picture you posted. I guess that one was already nixed?

Alex F

I prefer the old head. It's a part of the 'mech's character. But then I am biased as I'll evetually end up drawing it one way or another

Jeffery Smith

the head on the right makes me think of a dual pilot mech, giving a clear view to both, in a single operator system having your view directly ahead blocked the way it would be seams "strange" (although it does look cool when you think of them as eyes) for this reason I chose the head on the left.

The DRT

I love how the comments almost all say the old head, but even I, a Marik player, voted with the majority, voting for the Nuhead. Nuhead is best head :P

David Razi

I am diametrically opposed to any cockpit with a vertical bar down the middle, but frankly there's not much fighting it with how many there are in BT already.