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A Gee Cook

Great ep. Interested to how this theory applies to Africa as well as India and Asia. These great thinkers called eastern ppls primitive civilizations….i can only imagine the way they thought of Africans and their history/ future. must be monstrous

Jaime Christley

The "give your idea a place to live and line it with things that they like" stuff is some of the only really actionable creative advice I've ever heard; a dunce like me can pass that along to fellow (in my case) writers in a way that may even make sense when I put it into words.

Rob Dag

“The secret story is the one we’ll never know. Although we’re living it from day to day thinking we’re alive. Thinking we’ve got it all under control and the stuff we overlook doesn’t matter. But every damn thing matters, it’s just that we don’t realize. We tell ourselves that art runs on one track and life, our lives, on another. We don’t even realize that’s a lie.” Roberto Bolaño

David

You know, that line from Benjamin's Theses about how the working class are "nourished by the image of enslaved ancestors rather than that of liberated grandchildren" has honestly never sat totally well with me. I think a bit of a visceral aversion on my part to anything that sounds at all like desire for vengeance or retribution has made it hard to take Benjamin's point seriously enough. But the way you explained the potential justificatory/teleological narrative of Marxism in terms of colonialism is finally allowing it to cohere, so thank you for that. Also I love your point about giving ideas a place to live. That is an explanation of something I never thought would or could come to sense in real words.

Horseloverfat

There are obviously many pitfalls to growing up Jewish in America — many of them painfully apparent atm — but boy every time you talk about your spiritual priors I feel thankful that nobody did that to me. Sorry brother

Ashley Naftule

Book question for MSJ: have you read Cartarescu’s Solenoid? It’s a really dense, interesting novel that feels like the sort of thing you could sink your teeth into (especially with how much it talks about the 4th dimension/exits/fascism as a kind of Dreamtime).

Jack

Brilliant episode as always. I wanted to put this Russell Means transcription here because I find it relevant to the episode and also because he is relevant to where I live and who I live with. https://www.filmsforaction.org/news/revolution-and-american-indians-marxism-is-as-alien-to-my-culture-as-capitalism/ I also wanted to say that sometimes I boil down my issue with Marx to his totalitarianism. The whole thing where he thinks Western civ is superior to all other civilizations and that his version of communism is the only right way to live – that's totalitarianism. Totalitarianism is when someone declares they know the one and only right way to live (their way). I feel sympathy for your pain and experience with your perpetual migraine. I can't even imagine. I wish I could offer more than my sympathy and whatever power my prayers may have. I appreciate what you do on this show. Thank you Michael.

Brian

Thanks for this. It’s funny, I consider myself to be a Marxist AND I agree 100% with everything you said. For me it’s about a method of analysis, so really one can use “Marxism” to disprove Marx. It’s a very useful lens, but where orthodox Marxists go wrong is confusing what they see through that lens for reality itself.

elle

this has nothing to do with anything but can we talk about jean fkn cauvin/jan pierterszoon coen/the dutch east india company n why calvinism is satanic

Shunning Ground

Everything you said about Irish Catholicism was like you were reading my mind, so thanks again for what you do

Colin Helpio

I'm a confirmed Catholic and your thoughts on positive feelings and Catholicism really resonated with me. The first thing you learn growing up Catholic is that if something is fun it's probably a sin.

Joel Blackstock

It's amazing how your able to describe such specific phenomenological fodder that I am chewing on but with a jewlers lense. Your nest and ideas being dead or growing thing that I made me realize why I encourage myself and patients to use the animistic perspecitve that we do. you give up a little bit of your conciousness to make the universe concious. It will teach you well. A ritual is just you externalizing somethings in order to withdraw them later so you have more control over it but animism is closer to the Neolithic condition.

Adam

So much to think about in this episode (as ever), unfortunately the koan my brain has chosen to meditate upon these last few days is “baby girl Hegel serving cunt”

Watermane

man, your thoughts and the way you let us take part, just always hits the spot

Angus Cameron

Hi MSJ, I hope you’re well. Very interesting episode as always - looking forward to the next one! On the subject of the nuclear bomb as a transformative force have you ever come across the Australian (where I’m from ahah) magazine Arena? John Hinkson from Arena has written extensively on the nuclear bomb as representative of a larger transformative techno-scientific revolution. It’s Marxist writing but it breaks with a lot of the assumptions underpinning orthodox Marxism. I think it’s right up your alley - lmk if you’re interested and I’ll link some articles :-))

YourBabysFather

As much of a genius as Marx was, he was still subject to his material conditions and the time and place in which he was raised. He likely never met a single person who wasn’t a Euro-supremacist

Scott

Just don't let me die before you get to the Rathenau scene!

Trazdat

Have you read Surveillance Valley? I’d be curious on your thoughts on the theory that the origins of the Internet stem at least as much from counterinsurgency as from nuclear war planning.

Gabriel M

I don’t think there was anything novel said in this episode. I think most people would agree European philosophers from a certain era were racist because just about everyone was. Of course Marx’s general analysis still stands as the best tool we have (with asterisks).

Tvvvv

I dont think the Marx quote is especially inflammatory or racist. I know it’s positioned next to the Hegel quote to make it appear so but he seems to be just describing the reality of colonialization and capitalism. Like of the powers of the world at that time, the British Empire was the most technologically advanced and was a central power of capitalism. That’s the base Marxist idea of societies needing to go through capitalism to get to communism. The social and technological advancements are essential. It’s not because the Indians or the English are superior racially. It’s just the way development unfolded that led to Britain getting to that stage of advancement prior to other places. It would have been someone else colonizing them if not for the British. As the rest of the world that was not as developed was gobbled up through colonialism. He seems to just be stating what happened from a Marxist lens.

Ravindu Shehan

Sri Lankan parliamentary election held in yesterday was won by a former Marxist leaning leftist party in a landslide. I’ll update you guys on how it goes for me under a former Marxist party. Fuck! Jokes apart this party won because they promised to clean up the mess created by elite nepotistic parties who inherited the ruling of the country after the British left us in 1948.