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Better Call Saul Season 6 Episode 8 'Point and Shoot' Full TV Reaction!!

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Ashton Rice

Been waiting so long for your guys' reaction to this!

Ellie Williams

I could be wrong, but I think this is the only time I've seen a murder victim get buried next to his killer. Even more undeserving for Howard.

AdrianF

1:30 am here, guess these two are worth getting up for!

Jeffrey Miller

Been waiting forever for this episode

Millennium4ever

Lalo definitely stole the show and he quickly became my favorite character as the show went on. I loved him enough that I was hoping he somehow makes it into Breaking Bad. Even though I knew there was no way that’d happen. Anyway. A piece of detail I liked a lot about Lalo is that we never see him kill anyone unless it was in self defense or the others were in “the game.” Howard is the only person who isn’t in the game that we see Lalo kill on screen

Will D

this episode might have improved the fly episode of Breaking Bad lol

Javier B

You'll never look at the lab the same way again in Breaking Bad

Philip Alan

Lalo: I love this guy. I'm so pissed off he's dead!! I mean he killed so many innocent people and made a lot of people suffer!! I adore him. I hope he kills more people in the afterlife. He's so cool. Saul: I HATE THIS GUY!!! HE PLAYED THESE RIDICULOUS PRANKS!! HE DOES THESE LIFE ALTERING THINGS TO INNOCENT PEOPLE! POOR HOWARD! I WANT SAUL DEAD!! I WANT KIM DEAD!! I HATE THEM BOTH FOR CONNING PEOPLE OUT OF A FEW BUCKS!! Why are we like this? hahaha!!! Great two episodes! Great reactions!

TGrimace

I hate to disagree, but one of the first things Lalo did was kill the innocent guy at the money wire place. Lalo was charismatic, for sure, and that made him likeable-ish. But he was a psychopath. He was Tuco without the drugs. Well, and much, much smarter.

TGrimace

Jimmy and Kim are terrible people. They are clearly and unquestioningly responsible for what happened to Howard. But be fair. It's not what they wanted. It was an outcome they couldn't have seen coming. They ruin lives, and now Howard is dead because of them. Absolutely 100% responsible, but it wasn't the plan. They thought they were just having fun, and now they have to live with the consequences. Their responsibility? Absolutely. Their fault? No.

Millennium4ever

We don’t see Lalo kill him though. We know he does, but it’s not an on screen kill. Every other kill he’s done has been off screen except for the assassins, Gus’s men, and Howard

JenM

I don’t think Jimmy doubling down on the Saul persona in Breaking Bad is a plot hole at all. Strictly looking at his behavior up until this episode (so no spoilers) almost every time he has done something wrong or been involved with something that goes badly for him, he has doubled downed with his behavior. The one time he seems to seriously reconsider backing off was after the massacre in the desert and the scary confrontation with Lalo). Sadly, this is the time Kim is encouraging him not to change his ways and instead they plot against Howard. If only he’d listened to her when she WAS giving him good advice such as to see a therapist after Chuck’s death. Jimmy has deep levels of denial and he masks it with his Saul persona. To me, it makes the fact he’s so shallow and fully the Saul we know from Breaking Bad more of a plot strength rather than a plot weakness. Jimmy McGill/Saul Goodman is one of the most fascinating characters I’ve ever seen on a show.

Jeffrey Miller

What makes Howard's death such a tragedy is he really tried to become a better person after Chuck's death and got nothing for it. Hell, right before he dies he remains somewhat optimistic about being able to get through another challenge in his life.

Corks

In the first epside of season 5 of BB when Mike first confronts Walt and Jesse he says something like "Do you even know what you've done?" Yeah that takes on a whole new meaning after the season+ of BCS. How Gus had to survive Lalo and all the lab drama and then as soon they get it up and running Walt kills gus and burns the lab down. lol!

Marcus Cato

My favorite summary of the show so far comes from Samantha: "Phenomenal show. I hate it." 😂

Marcus Cato

They could do a fun re-edit of Breaking Bad where Tony Dalton and Patrick Fabian get a screen credit for every episode with a scene in the meth lab.

jeff

So, I've been waiting to ask these 2 questions. It might be a hole in the universe, but I hope someone can prove to me why it's not. 1. At the top of Breaking Bad, Krazy 8 is the guy running the Salamanca show. Why? Ok, Tuco is in prison, and Hector isn't capable, but how could it be Krazy 8? Krazy 8 was Nacho's guy! Whether it was Don Bulosa or even Hector running the big picture, why would either choose the guy who was brought up by the guy (Nacho) who betrayed them? 2. So Krazy 8 dies, Tuco dies, the twins have nothing to do with operations . . . so who's running the Salamanca empire? They have no one. Wouldn't they be over with the death of Tuco, seeing that no one is left? I'm open to suggestions; even arguments; but I can't figure this one out. Unless it is a hole, and I don't want it to be.

Ellie Williams

- Another casualty of Walter White: Lyle's superstar career at Los Pollos Hermanos - Much like Hank, Lalo celebrated too early - Sadly we are all complicit. We've spent too much time rooting for Jimmy to suddenly think we're so separate or different. Kim may have been driving the scams this season, but we've been cheering Jimmy on for 5 seasons. We always wanted him to get away with it. We never wanted him to get caught. We never wanted Walter White to be caught either. We all loved Saul Goodman on Breaking Bad. We've enjoyed the bad too much to be innocent. This is what Vince Gilligan's writing does to us!

Tyler Foster

Krazy-8 isn't really running it, is he? We see in "BCS" that Krazy-8 ultimately gets promoted into Nacho's original job when Hector is incapacitated. To me, it seems like Krazy-8 remains in the same position. Nacho is supposed to be a spy. A good spy does their job well in order to blend in and get more important information, so there is no inherent reason to suspect anyone else Nacho was working with. Maybe I'm misremembering "BB," but my memory is that they deal with Krazy-8 before they meet Tuco, so, Tuco's the boss, and Krazy-8 is like Nacho back in the days when Hector would read his paper in the restaurant during the counts.

Mike Medaugh

Yeah what Tyler said. That covers Breaking Bad. You could ask who runs what until Tuco gets out which is kinda unclear. Everyone thinks Lalo is dead, so the cartel already has to have someone set up to run things until Tuco gets out. I think a year or 18 more months from the end of Jimmy's timeline. I doubt Domingo gets that gig. Maybe Bolsa runs things from a distance and while in the North and visiting Hector, Hector keeps telling Bolsa Gus is who we know he is. Maybe Bolsa keeps a little tighter eye on Gus and this is why the Salamanca territory survives until Tuco gets back. Ultimately I don't think it beaks anything or gives continuity problems, because Salamanca just tread water until Tuco returns and Gus can't take their territory without increasing suspicion.

Michelle Hoffman

I hope Jimmy can redeem himself a little bit with you guys 🤗

jeff

To both Tyler and Mike: Except that Jesse tells Walt right at the beginning that Krazy 8 is in charge. After Krazy 8 dies, Jesse says there's a new guy in charge named Tuco. The only way to plug that hole is that Jesse didn't know what he was talking about, which makes sense because the concept of the Salamanca family hadn't come up. Even so, why would anyone trust Krazy 8 since he was kinda Nacho's protege? At best he'd be a little suspect. Maybe they'd keep letting him run his crew, but more than that doesn't make sense to me. And again, who's running anything once Tuco is dead?

Mike Medaugh

Like the rest of us, I've been waiting for this reaction for the entirety of the journey. Now I'm counting down to see how you react to the conclusion of Kim's arc. Regardless of how you feel about Kim, Rhea Seehorn gives one of THE best performances I've ever watched.

Simon

“Lalo’s gonna make him show him that hole”…oh my 😳 lol

PIG

One of the other great reactions channels on Pateron, one of the guys, Formal, just kept saying "Fuck you... fuck you... fuck you..." to the show since Howard was taken down lol Like the others over here, I'm curious of what you'll think of the rest of the show! I have my own thoughts of where I was at this point but I want to see what you two think first.

Robert Smith

Just like watching the Sopranos, you almost always hate their actions but admire their character's status in the show. Lalo was one helluva villain. Loved Sam's reaction to Howard's fate...

Tyler Foster

I would agree that the confusion about Krazy-8 can be chalked up to Jesse not knowing what he's talking about. If Krazy-8 is the only person he ever interacted with and then Tuco appears after Krazy-8 is dead, then that is how it would look to Jesse (and of course we can also just give a little leeway that the show was being written without any awareness we'd go back further). I still don't think Krazy-8 would be suspected at all. I don't know where you get the idea that he is Nacho's protege. Any scenes in "BCS" where Nacho is sort of training Krazy-8 can simply be looked at as, like: you start a new job or a new position within a job and some guy who already knows how to do the job trains you. It doesn't mean those two people have a relationship beyond that interaction. Again, for Nacho to be an effective spy, he has to be doing his job well. It makes sense to think of him behaving like an undercover cop might, where the whole point is to avoid rocking the boat, avoid doing anything wrong, avoid being noticed other than to gain more trust and be promoted higher within the ranks. Nacho works with Hector. Nobody would suspect Hector of being in on it just because they're associated. I think part of it may just be that the show is focusing a little more on Krazy-8 because he is a character we already know from "BB." It doesn't mean Nacho's relationship with Krazy-8 is more special than any of the other dealers who come in and give him their weekly take. (Frankly, that may be why the show has Nacho beat the shit out of him -- to remind the viewer that Krazy-8 and Nacho are business associates, and not friends. The time that they've spent aware of each other doesn't mean shit. Nacho will still kill him if he is asked to.) Also, if Krazy-8 was promoted up the chain farther than seems reasonable, you can also just suggest that the vacuum left behind by Lalo and Nacho throws the Salamancas into a bit of chaos and they just throw Krazy-8 into that position because they don't have anyone else. It's not like the cousins are fit for that position, and even the Salamancas probably know that Tuco is kind of a loose cannon. Given those options, if Krazy-8 is reliable, then that is convincing enough for me.

Tyler Foster

The thing I wanted to say on last week's episodes turned out to not be as true as it was with Nacho's final episode, which is: The way the episodes are split up in your schedule is going to be frustrating again! In the end I almost think this was better, because Episode 8 was a pretty good episode for Sam to just be pissed through. That said, when the show aired, the season was split in two like the final season of "BB," so there was actually over a month between those two episodes when they aired. Also, fun fact: the scene of Howard's car on the beach was apparently the final thing shot for "Better Call Saul." It was also during the filming of Episode 8 that Bob Odenkirk had his heart attack after a 12-hour day of filming and was thankfully saved by Rhea Seehorn, Patrick Fabian, and Tony Dalton. You may feel differently now about wanting more Lalo that you've seen what he does to Howard, but one thing I thought about Lalo watching these episodes with you is that he is like the Saul of "BCS." When I started watching episodes with you guys, I was kind of flabbergasted to realize how late into the show he enters the picture, because he feels like such a big part of it, but he's really not in very much of the show as a whole.

Tyler Foster

I wouldn't absolve them quite that much but it is interesting to think that if Jimmy were not already wrapped up in cartel business, this would pretty much be a prank. A fucked up prank, with consequences, but the severity of what they were doing changes almost entirely. One thing I think that is easily lost is that even though Jimmy and Kim fucked the Sandpiper plaintiffs a bit and Howard's image is suffering, it's also true that Howard has an easy out. Even if people *think* he's a drug addict, Jimmy and Kim are clearly counting on the fact that, well, he isn't. He can always genuinely prove himself innocent, even if some people don't buy it. I think in their minds, that is the parachute that Howard has -- or more accurately, that is their way of justifying that what they're doing to him isn't that bad. On some level, I don't think they're entirely wrong. Everything that happens to him is hearsay, implication, suggestion. But as both "BB" and "BCS" illustrate, over and over, once you start down a path, once the dominos are falling, who knows what is going to happen. Actions have consequences.

jeff

Ok, fair enough. Then to the other question: Who's running things after Tuco dies? How is the Salamanca empire even in existence anymore?

Marcus Cato

It's amusing to look back on Lalo's first conversation with Nacho where he tells him, "It's gonna be like I'm not even here."

Jen Barnes

In reference to "framing" Howard, I think Jimmy and Kim got really lucky with Clifford Main's personal experience with his own son's drug issues. If you've had a loved one with serious addiction issues, you get sick of the lies, it eventually wears you down. Addicts are very good liars and they lie about everything. So Cliff was sympathetic to Howard and tried to help him, but he wasn't hearing his excuses as anything but lies. Jimmy and Kim deserve to rot.

Jen Barnes

I think when you re-watch BCS, you will see that Kim was always toxic, she and Jimmy manipulated each other, egged each other on, and continually make terrible choices. Kim was never innocent.

Michael Chavira

Great reaction. Like so many people here, I've been waiting for these two episodes for a very long time. Your angry reaction to episode 8 made the things you said so much more entertaining. If I had to pick my two favorite things that just made me laugh out loud, it would have to be: #1) Dan (with a blank face): "I hope one of Mike's guys blows her brains out." #2) Sam (still angry): "Who the fuck is Glenn?!"

Chris Bruneau

well, Lalo comes to his end--he was a great villain and a great character--hell, he even died with that same smug smirk on his face!!!

Ed Nunez

Better Call Saul > Breaking Bad

Matt DSM

There is an answer to this, but it’s not revealed until season 6, episode 9 of BCS - so I don’t want to give away any spoilers.

Matt DSM

Yeah and don’t forget about the flashbacks of Kim as a kid. She had a messed up childhood where doing illegal things won her the respect of her mom.

jeff

I've seen 6/9 -- I've seen the whole thing a few times -- but I don't recall this question being answered. Maybe I forgot. I guess we'll see on their next reaction. Let's talk then :)

AdrianF

But only just

Marcus Cato

I remember that. Formal especially was pretty pissed. FRR Reactions is a great channel that deserves a lot more love.

Marcus Cato

I think some people respond to trauma with total avoidance, trying not to even think about it, and their entire personality begins to center around this one big defense mechanism. i think Saul is one of those people.

Abel Salas Jr

BCS is also the superior show to me. But its probably also based on what you like more as a viewer. Breaking Bad feels like there's more action and like youre being pushed into the next episode, like a lot of adrenaline. Whereas Saul to me feels quieter and deeper. The acting isnt as big and over the top as Breaking's is (nearly cartoonish at times) its more nuanced.