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UPDATE IN 2022 - making this public again at the request of a patron but just wanna say we love olivia so so so much now at the pod and we're pulling for both girls (also think jolivia was not a stunt at all now that we did a deep dive on her last year)

in this episode of swiftgron radio, cara joins me and we rant about antis, but then to keep it balanced we dump on kaylors as we read off their reaction to taylor "stunting with joe'" during the lover era, we take sides in the new fake teenage love triangle, and we ponder taylor's relationship with dykon kristen stewart.

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