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Episode 160 - Nationalize This (Patreon)

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2022-03-21 04:03:10
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This week, Briahna asks experts pointed, pragmatic questions about how to nationalize the energy sector. With the public discourse centered on high gas prices and the climate crisis is looming bigger than ever, it seems odd that the left is silent on a solution that could deliver big benefits to direct consumers and, well, everyone who enjoys a habitable earth. What does the Tennessee Valley Authority teach us about state-owned energy projects? What should we learn from the Obama-era nationalization of GM? We've done before, other countries, like Sweden, do it all the time, so why is the idea of "nationalization" such a bete noir -- especially among the left? Matt Bruenig, returning to the podcast, is the founder of the People's Policy Project think tank. Johanna Bozuwa, Executive Director at the Climate and Community Project, has written a detailed paper on how we can actually "nationalize this." 

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Produced by Ben Dalton (@wbend).

Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands

Comments

Anonymous

Thus was another great episode! I want Nationalize Energy to become the new FTV. Everytime someone says, "We need more money for Ukraine, cuz high gas prices!" Ten voices should shout back, "Stop the Death & Destruction in Ukraine! Nationalize Energy!" We all know that the war in Ukraine has ZERO to do with democracy or saving adorable little blonde Ukranian girls from being blown up. This has to do with control of pipelines and the USA's European War Dept, NATO, expanding and War Profiteers making bank. We should also stop calling it the Defense Dept. It was the War Dept prior to, ironically, WW2. Stop calling Raytheon, etc. Defense Contractors and call them what they are War Profiteers. It may be just word games, but the American Public loves a label and a catchy phrase. Remember the Estate Tax for the Rich being changed to the Death Tax? Leftists should start doing the same thing. Perception can be half the battle. Time for us to start calling these vultures what they are. Let's stop using their language and let's use our own!

Anonymous

Just in Texas there’s roughly 7,300 damns and only six or so are fit for hydroelectric. All fitted during the New Deal. I feel Texas could easily go from 5% hydro to at least 10%.

Anonymous

Decades of Reaganomic brain rot has done a number on this country.

Anonymous
>>80251084

I'm 57, so the Reagan 80s was pretty much my 20s. I know there are many examples of things crumbling prior to Reagan, but the Greed is Good decade is what got the money train moving full speed. Then Reagan's "sons," Clinton & Obama turned that train into a rocket. Clinton & Obama did things St. Reagan's followers could only DREAM about!

Johann Strottman

Love the episodes with Matt! (Johanna’s great too.)

Anonymous

There lots of public utilities that exist now at least in the northwest. Most of them get power from the huge dams on the Columbia.

T

Great ending song. Gotta love The Wiz 💚

Cory

I find it difficult to get enthusiastic around these potential policy solutions to prevent us from going past 1.5C. I'm in favour of nationalizing anything and everything,, but we aren't avoiding 1.5C and any argument that we can avoid that is just fantasy. We've fucked ourselves with climate change and it's too late. We had the chance and we fucked it up. Its done. That decision is baked in. If anyone can tell me I'm wrong I'm totally open to it. But as far as I can tell we are locked into the "fucked" scenario. and anything that these sincere and passionate people are advocating for, are based on some fantasy proposition that we can avoid a catastrophic level of warming. I dunno. To me its done. We lost. All these fancy ideas aren't worth shit because they should have been implemented 30 years ago. We are fucked. (please convincingly tell me I'm wrong)

Roxanne G Rieske

I want to see a detailed plan of how these two think this country can meet it's energy needs without fossil fuels, because that is a big, fat pipe dream. Renewables have the POTENTIAL to be the majority of our energy production, maybe up to 2/3 based on what I have read, but it won't be the majority for a VERY long time. Not only do we need fossil fuels, but we also need nuclear energy. Any energy plan without these is absolutely unrealistic.

Scott Willis
>>80246305

10% hydro will reverse climate change? hahahaha!!! keep dreaming!!! The fantasy on the green left that all we have to do is switch fuels is mind boggling.

Scott Willis
>>80251084

I'm 59 ,and I can assure this started long before Reagan. I remember when I thought republicans were to blame for everything. "I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now."