Title: The Bipartisan Landscape of the Liberal Mind (w/ Peter Kalmus & Rose Abramoff) (Patreon)

[Note: We flipped the public and premium episodes this week so Monday's candidate interviews would be public. Also, Ally Dalsimer dropped out shortly after a pretty emotional Callin episode Monday night during which many of you expressed your frustration with electoral politics. She put a lot of herself, and even some of her retirement savings, into the campaign, and I know it must have been a difficult decision. I'll let you know if I learn more.]

This week, Briahna spoke to climate scientists and activists Peter Kalmus & Rose Abramoff about what to do when marching is not enough. Both were involved in a direct action event that resulted in their arrests earlier this month, and are encouraging a turn to non violent direct action as a way to push world-saving climate reforms. I asked them whether they feel groups like Sunrise that emerged as super radical have ultimately helped to cover for the Biden administration's failures, whether strategic property damage falls within the "non violent" category of activities, what the latest IPCC report warns, extreme Don't Look Up moments from the mainstream media, and whether there's finally some willingness in the mainstream to criticize Biden. It's a climate episode that will inspire you, not depress you.

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Produced by Armand Aviram.

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