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Do left candidates running within the Democratic party deserve your support? McKayla Wilkes is running against Steny Hoyer in Maryland's 5th district, and she thinks she's got a chance to win. But if she does, will she vote for Pelosi to be speaker of the house, for bloated defense budges, and to fund Israeli apartheid just like presently elected progressives have done? Also, Briahna asks her about the Congressional Progressive Caucus's betrayal of Nina Turner, her thoughts about the latest mass shootings, and more.

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Josh Bobst

Brianna Joy gray, go on a research vacation

Anonymous

I just don't believe a word she says. She sounds like a politician-in-training.

Merfy Mac

Humour in comments is a tricky business. Caitlin Johnstone ought to run classes

Cory

I'm only halfway through this but I like this chick. I always groan when I see these politician interview episodes. Of course she might have just done her homework and is a better bullshitter than the rest, but I acknowledge and appreciate that effort if so. Compared to all the people that don't even try to fool us anymore.

Cclear

I enjoy the politician interviews because if it's possible to have a tea party of the right it's possible to have one of the left. Kshama Swant proves it can be done. Wilkes gave all the right answers and was the first politician on who I'd support.

Anonymous

Listening to the call-in for this episode rn and Brie, my girl, idk who these dudes are but they DID move the goalposts like you said and idk what their deal is. I'm actually appalled. Mckayla said all the right things! What more could she have said?! And all these dudes had no answer. This is exactly why people see leftists as whiny and never satisfied because-- *gestures wildly at this call-in.*

jennifer corozza

There's no way to verify it. She says all the right things, great. And then when she gets in there more of the same. Politicians are really not the people you want running things

Anonymous

Well for one, she doesnt have to wait for the questions. She can lead with a platform that aggressively goes after corruption and Nancy Pelosi. She could have a plan ready to combat the pressure and threats she would no doubt receive. She could bring the party corruption to the forefront, no matter if she is talking to centrists or left wingers. But just saying the right things when asked isnt gonna overcome the treachery from all the progressives who have already used and reneged on the "right things" theyve said.

Anonymous

I think the issue is that nobody trusts her. Yes, all the right answers, but we have zero faith in any follow through. AOC also said all the right things, don't you remember?

Anonymous

If the argument is we can trust nobody, fine, I agree. But as far as Mckayla herself goes, I for one am heartened to hear that she would unequivocally without a doubt not vote for Pelosi. That's not a typical response, in such black and white terms especially. That's dangerous to say as someone trying to gain entry to the democratic party and also to congress. So to me, that was impressive and audacious and I responded to it. Yeah, we'll have to wait and see. Of course she might be another let down. But short of being a socialist alternative member or someone with a long track record of being worthy of our fragile hope, I thought she did the most she could to convey her views in this very limited interview with Brie and I don't know what else could inspire you to like a newcomer. It might be nothing, and that's fine. But if we're talking about her as a candidate with the presumption that you might be persuaded to vote at all, yes I would say she did an actually good and non-typical job appealing to a "left" vote.

Anonymous

I think we get confused about the competency of incumbent politicians like Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi. At the highest levels (house, senate) the game is really sophisticated. It takes specialization and a kind of single-mindedness to hold onto your position for decades. So when we elect a fresh-faced, positive, idealistic outsider, I feel like they are just a lamb to the slaughter. They are walking blindly into a new and very complex environment and competing with people who have been doing this since they were in diapers. The evidence is that they all seem to abandon their ideals to some extent once they get a dose of reality. Nancy Pelosi would eat this person alive. I don’t think I want a really likable and positive politician. Just like I don’t want a likable and positive attorney. If I meet an attorney and walk away thinking I want to hang out and have a beer with them, they are not the right attorney. I want someone who is crafty and cutthroat. Someone who is effective, above all else. Knowing the den of snakes they are walking into, I'm not even sure I care that they are honest. As long as they are dishonest in pursuit of my goals. That's the game. Electing every day, regular people, with slightly above average intelligence and the right ideals, only works if you elect enough of them to have real power in numbers. Otherwise, they are just fresh meat for the machine.

Toby

I want to vote for someone that openly hates the Democrats as much as I do. When the current political quagmire finally ends, it will be to a wave of people that say they will “fight corruption.” That can be us or it can be the Republicans and it better fucking be us. A Democrat going straight for Pelosi and taking her scalp is a great way to upend the status quo in our favor.

Anonymous

No, they don’t deserve our vote. Anyone who runs within the Democratic Party will never change anything. Point blank periodt.