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Episode 245 - What's Left? 2024 (Patreon)

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An all-star panel of left leaders -- Kshama Sawant, Imani Oakley, & Shahid Buttar -- discuss 2024 and the state of the left. The Freedom Caucus validated the efficacy of Force The Vote just weeks after the Democratic Party consigned crushing a rail road strike, and now some of the few consistent left voices remaining are looking forward to 2024 and having a serious conversation about what's next. No prevaricating. No doomsdaying. No punting to abstractions. Kshama Sawant also explains why she's leaving the Seattle City Council after a decade in office.

Subscribe to Bad Faith on YouTube for video of this episode. Find Bad Faith on Twitter (@badfaithpod) and Instagram (@badfaithpod).

Produced by Armand Aviram.

Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).

Comments

Nick Grayson

Also whatever shahid is producing should just be pitched as the next Hamilton. Maybe stupid libs that clap like seals at “political” hip hop will have good politics again

Kimi Ramos

This was an amazing conversation. I appreciate you for all your work in making a place for this!

Frank

Where does Kshama explain why she’s leaving electoral politics? I missed that in the episode, but the description says it’s in there somewhere.

Tymon

NEEDED this

Cclear

Great episode, lots of good stuff but Kshama says the Democrat party will never let a real progressive win. Well what do you think they'll do to a third party person who gets close? Just welcome them in? They'll do the same dirty tricks and anything possible to destroy them. So that's really a meaningless thing to say. It's about the movement behind the person forcing the candidate and the power structure to do what's right that matters more than Dem party or not. It's going to be extremely difficult regardless.

Margaret Okuzumi

About Shahid being the only candidate from the left challenging Nancy Pelosi, that's absolutely not true. I can think of at least two who ran during the same elections that Shahid did. Steven Jaffe, an old white guy, was the first to challenge Pelosi as I recall and Ryan Khojasteh, a young man who was almost completely unknown jumped in late. https://ballotpedia.org/Stephen_Jaffe Shahid is cancelled in SF and will never be a viable candidate for public office again. I personally know someone who was paid staff to his campaign a bit later on, and that person quit even though they badly needed a job and confirmed to me that bad stuff was going on and that they didn't think he was fit for office and would never support him in the future. I also saw Shahid's vicious ad-hominem attacks on FB on another better friend of mine whose character I can vouch for, which basically turned me off Buttar for good. Maybe he's got some insights as a commentator but every time you platform him it turns the stomach of a lot of people in the San Francisco area and undermines your credibility. Lastly, Feinstein is pronounced "Feinstyne", kind of like a stein of beer. Clearly you're not too familiar with the California scene. https://twitter.com/DianneFeinstein/status/1059133198221725698?s=20&t=v_foDI9JNKeqtSbnirQhoA

Anonymous

Bri I listened to most of the Callin last night and can hear that folks attacking you is starting to cause stress. These attacks are completely ridiculous and unfair - you are a brilliant journalist on a mission from god . You are allowed to have friends which you always reveal. Its great to hear diverse voices and you provide the space for these voices and challenge them. We love and appreciate you - you are ond of the few real adults in this space - the ad hominem attacks only make those making them look really dumb ass! Stay strong!

Anonymous

How can I listen to the Callin?

Anonymous

I'm no fan of the squad, but let's be honest. A handful of far right wing nuts holding out to take America even further to the right, isn't a problem for the establishment. However, if the squad were to actually exercise their power to affect the bottom line of the donor class, there would be a real price to be paid. We all know that the odds of being MLK'd by a "lone wolf" goes up exponentially If you aren't a team player. I figure that every time one of these new uppity politicians comes in, they show them the real JFK files and remind them that they can only protect them if they're on the same team. That's probably why they refuse to let anyone see what actually happened to JFK;) The system works. Panther Party

Anonymous

The Democrat's sole purpose is to take energy and resources from the Left. Period. They made that clear with what they did to Bernie Sanders, they would rather Trump than real progress because ultimately the goal is to consolidate money and power into the elites. With that as a guide (let's stop pretending that the DNC hasn't been failing on purpose for 40ish years), the logical conclusion to our future is eventual climate catastrophe that will be the pretext to fascism. When that happens and we don't have a movement that has been well funded with trained people, they'll round up the political opposition and the new world order will be impossible to fight against (think of the French underground leading up to the Nazi take over but now they have an algorithm that flags the people who are capable of fighting back). Therefore, like the Black Panther Party, we need to build a parallel government that ACTUALLY meaningfully delivers material difference for the poor - up to the middle class (people need to know that they aren't expected to be poor forever). Then a commitment from leadership personally to donate all money earned after hitting the average middle class wages to the Panther Party (Panther Party is for lack of a better term that has historical context for a parallel political government). The leadership would commit to a broader set of goals (M4A, anti war foreign policy, trade agreements that are worker centric, etc) that are not negotiable to the duopoly. Continue to use the resources of the PP to hire doctors, educators, lawyers, security and financial services for Party members and the poor. Also use the resources to buy housing/support business and the very last thing is to support electoral politics in so much as boots on the ground or fund raising from outside of the PP (Panther Party)for candidates who have our same stated goals with an explicit understanding that if they end up being traitors (by direct means or omission) we will use our resources to make their lives very uncomfortable (not violence but paid protestors, lawsuits, basically act like a hostile corporation). Anything short of that promotes the false hope that electoral politics can be changed to help the working class. Electoralism's last chance was Bernie Sanders and that failed, the inevitable climate wars are coming. Unless we start organizing now and use our time, $ and souls in pursuit of an organization that is going to support us when the System collapses we will find ourselves without the ability to survive to fight back. The system works, let's stop supporting it. Panther Party