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Episode 253 - Responding to the Right (w/ Nathan J. Robinson) (Patreon)

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2023-02-20 11:17:42
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Briahna enlists the help of Nathan J. Robinson, Editor-in-Chief of Current Affairs and author of the new book Responding to the Right: Brief Replies to 25 Conservative Arguments to push back against common right-leaning arguments t hat have emerged in the wake of the East Palestine train derailment and other current events. Is regulators' failures proof that government is corrupt and we're better off without it? Also, should AOC debate Majorie Taylor Greene, and if so, how would Nathan prep her? Should Briahna debate Ben Shaprio? And if yes, what would hep her reach the best result for the left? Also, what's the libertarian socialist take on covid vaccines?

Subscribe to Bad Faith on YouTube for video of this episode. Find Bad Faith on Twitter (@badfaithpod) and Instagram (@badfaithpod).

Produced by Armand Aviram.

Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).

Comments

Anonymous

Lots of debate bros who would agree with the idea that "no one owes you shit" think they're owed a debate by anyone anytime anywhere.

Lydia Maria Child

Jared Yates Sexton has a new book out, too. I'm assuming he'd be a much more interesting and enlightening guest than these neoliberals. Check him out.

Behold 666

Not sure how NJR has even an ounce of credibility in Left circles…

Anonymous

Queen of the Word Salad is a GREAT PUBLIC SPEAKER? I wipe my ass with Nathan j Robinson's "takes."

Eric Daniel Espinosa

Skipping. Can’t abide what he did to his unionizing workers

Jack Aloysius
>>102337733

They fell out over the details of the way in which the 6 or 7 people who worked for the magazine (that he founded) were going to run it as a cooperative. There was never any suggestion that he was opposed to them unioninising (in fact I'm pretty sure he actively encouraged it).

Anonymous

I dunno... This guy Nathan J. Robinson seemed kinda sus to me. A bunch of his rhetoric smacked of the condescending, out-of-touch elitism that tends to characterize well-to-do PMCs and turn off everyone else. I kept getting thinly-veiled superiority complex vibes (read: I'm better & smarter than everyone who doesn't share my worldview) from him today. ...Was it just me? I've liked Robinson on 'Bad Faith' before... Meanwhile, he heralds AOC as "one of the best public speakers I have ever heard in my life" and Ana Kasparian as "one of the best debators we have on the left... Just FANTASTIC." Sorry, but in the words of RBN, "This is not a serious person".

Rentaro Matsukata

I don't expect many conservatives will pick up that book and I don't think "humiliating" MTG will get the effect he's looking for. There's a reason people like Russel Brand can appeal to both sides. You don't convince people by beating them into submission. This man is just a bully

Anonymous

Regarding the Brie and Robby argument that was shown in this episode.... Man, "On Authority" was written by Engels in 1872 and addresses literally this exact point, which is a direct rebuttal to both Libertarian AND Anarchist views. I called in to Brie's show months ago and wanted to have a broader conversation about "authority" and the term "Authoritarian" and for EXACTLY this reason!! And the reaction I got from both Brie and her audience was the same type of reaction Robbie displayed.... An unwillingness to admit that eventually an Authority is going to emerge and be held responsible, the question we have to face is who we want to have that authority. Do you want the majority to have a say so or the minority. Cause right now, a minority hold all the power.

Sarah Jarrett

I liked the episode 🤷‍♀️ Tired of leftists eating each other. NJR has his issues like everyone else, but he still has a lot of value and I like listening to him in certain contexts.

...

I think I enjoy listening to NR as much as your average Patreon supporter, and I have to question anyone “on the left” who doesn’t think one needs to read Marx and yet reads everything ever written by Shapiro and Peterson (in order to argue with them). As far as the debate issue, AOC vs. MTG, isnt MGT a pretty marginal figure within the Republican Party? She actually seems more oppositional to the party line than AOC is for the Democrats.

Cory

This is a petty comment, but like 2 minutes into the show Nathan comments on preferring reading because he can't stand Ben Shapiro's voice (I agree). I also can't stand listening to NJR's voice. I'll get through this interview eventually and hopefully have a useful comment.

Anonymous

I find this entire premise, that we should be excited about AOC "winning" a hypothetical debate with MTG, is completely unrelatable. AOC has unmasked herself as an establishment Dem. Her arguments would be 100% standard issue Dem fare. Sorry, not interested. I'm glad you pushed back on this point, Briahna.

Cclear
>>102337733

The issue was he refused to hand over ownership of his publication to his employees. Since when is that a reasonable expectation? I think that's an extreme demand but he didn't try to bust the union or anything like Cenk Uygur