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Harvard Law & Economics Professor (and Briahna's favorite teacher) Jon Hanson joins Bad Faith to offer a firsthand lesson on the legal theories, economic principles, and social psychology that explain how our legal system and our democracy became so corrupted. In a sweeping conversation, Hanson explains how low liability standards all but ensure disasters like the East Palestine derailment occur, and what could be done to change that reality. As Briahna has mentioned on the podcast time and time again, Professor Hanson's Corporate Law & Tort Law classes were formative moments in her political evolution. She's thrilled to share some of those lessons on today's pod. She paid 180k for law school so you could get these lessons for free.

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Produced by Armand Aviram.

Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).

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Anonymous

Wonderful interview, thank you! 👍

Anonymous

And MacDonald’s kept the coffee so hot because the coffee evaporated less and they made more money…as I recall?

Tucker Millett

The guests have been awesome the last few sodes! Keep killing it Brie

badfaithpodcast

Correct! And the damages award was only 1 day of profit for coffee sales for McDonalds. It was characterized as being a punitive amount, and was later lowered. - B

Anonymous

The public perception of this case still rankles me. “Coffee is hot! DUH! hold it between your legs while driving and you get what you deserve!” The ACTUAL facts compel so overwhelmingly AGAINST McD’s. There is a real societal lesson that endures and is even more applicable to this very day.....

Anonymous

I ABSOLUTELY love his framing of contracts. I visualized a starving person reaching up out of salmon print on slightly less salmony paper, begging for food..... Contracts of Adhesion where survival life necessities are passed off as optional choices evincing free will! if contracts are “our own private law”, then what is revealed is the LACK of Justice in the law., contrary to the exculpating (of those wielding power) lofty ideals we pretend (are taught to pretend) are replete and are inherent in “the law”.

Anonymous

Where I diverge is the idea of “capture.” I believe that’s a misreading of history. In reality, these systems are working as they were designed & they’re just not designed with you in mind. You’re mistaken that they can be reformed.

Jesse Koechling

And just in the last year I was in a jury pool being questioned by lawyers and someone brought up that case when asked if they thought compensation could go too far in some cases. Thankfully the person questioned after gently corrected them when responding to the same question.

Drew McGill

Please have him find on Rising and debate Robbie on child labor Lmao. He dismantled his beliefs here completely. He rules.

Methew

He vaguely sounds like Ross from friends

Methew

That was great tho. So funny to hear that you were shy in his class, I would’ve never guessed

Anonymous

Your law professor was such a lovely man! I'm glad you finally convinced him to come on the podcast, he was really a treat to listen to.

Cclear

If the goal is not to reform the structures that rule our lives, what is the alternative?

Cclear

Great episode. I really enjoyed it. I think the legal episodes are some of the best ones. I love when Brie's lawyer side comes out.