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Margaret Kimberley, Executive Editor and Senior Columnist at Black Agenda Report and the current host of Black Agenda Radio joins Bad Faith to talk about the FBI targeting of the African People's Socialist Party, her fantasy third party presidential candidates, the failures of the Black misleadership class, and her take on how the left should handle the 2024 election.

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Produced by Armand Aviram.

Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).

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Anonymous

~1:10:00- It's not "I supported Bernie and I was disappointed and now I won't participate at all" , my position, and I'm assuming many others who agree with me are saying: "we tried that TWICE, under the best possible circumstances, and both times we were shown the DNC will do anything needed to anoint their candidate. I feel shame ALREADY for being fooled twice, you want me to be fooled a third time?" Or "I supported Bernie and now there is an overwhelming evidence that I was DEFRAUDED by him so now I WILL participate in the Red/Blue game by doing everything possible to DESTROY IT"

Anonymous

Margaret is amazing

Duborah Oya

Bang On Da Beast! Salute!

Duborah Oya

Not only is all the Manufacturing is N Asia, cause China's workers are NOT profiting either... N The "T Notes" ameriKKKa T Notes N Da TRILIONS R OWNED BY CHINA. however, China's Capitalism, Real Estate Model making Moa Twirl N His GRAVE.... Where am I going.... MONOPOLY GAME .. cause while we over here thinking we R Revolutionary / Reading the Red Book Not only Did China map the land of Asia that was not their's; and the Tibetians were being slaughtered... while the Monks were RAPING the Natives ... so the women placed tattoos all over their faces to make themselves UGLY... SO Ya'll HISTORY IS A WEAPON!

Anonymous

Great guest & chat, Margaret makes a lot of sense. Although i disagree regarding Taiwan; both the US & China are way too overly reliant on Taiwan for their computer chips. They make more and better quality than anywhere else by far. If production were to be stopped because of a “Hot War” the technology-based world as we know it would very soon grind to a halt. Washington knows this and Beijing knows this. The “Sabre rattling” is just that, all talk. I predict that maybe the US will attempt to impose economic sanctions on China, but even that is looking more and more unlikely and unworkable, seeing as more countries are switching to the Yuan for bi-lateral trading with China.

Nick Grayson

I’m sold, Bri. I understand that the Democratic Party is pure evil and reforming it is a fool’s errand but I will vote RFK JR in the primary if only to experience for one glorious second symbolically punching Joe Biden square in the Dick.

Anonymous

Thank you both for your work. The electoral politics discussion made me think of Glen Ford's essay "None of Them Has Ever Been My President", which ends with an imperative: "Let’s get organized, and get free."

Anonymous

That was fantastic thanks.

nati

Love Margaret! Glad to see you have her on your show. Would have been amazing to hear you talk to Glen Ford RIP

Anonymous

Great interview, great guest. I'm a BAR subscriber. Although as is the case with most guests they are great at asking the right questions and pointing out the flaws and failures of electoral, two-party politics, while providing very thin gruel indeed when it comes to answers and solutions.

Randy Hendrickson

I love BAR and I bought Margaret's book a while back and enjoyed it, however... I was very disappointed in her recent twitter takes on Chomsky. Not about the Epstein thing but in amplifying some dumb-ass' deliberate misreading and misinterpretation of quotes Chomsky had given on the imperialist's "humanitarian" justifications for wars like Yugoslavia. Saying Chomsky has supported all these imperialist actions in the name of humanitarianism where he was obviously being ironic. People chimed in with the rest of the context of the quote which pretty much negated her tweet. The whole thing just seemed sloppy and vindictive. It reminded me of Libs trying to convince America that Trump's plea to "Russia" for help during the 2016 debates was anything other than a clumsy stab at humor.

Anonymous

The Democrat's sole purpose is to take energy and resources from the Left. Period. They made that clear with what they did to Bernie Sanders, they would rather Trump than real progress because ultimately the goal is to consolidate money and power into the elites. With that as a guide (let's stop pretending that the DNC hasn't been failing on purpose for 40ish years), the logical conclusion to our future is eventual climate catastrophe that will be the pretext to fascism. When that happens and we don't have a movement that has been well funded with trained people, they'll round up the political opposition and the new world order will be impossible to fight against (think of the French underground leading up to the Nazi take over but now they have an algorithm that flags the people who are capable of fighting back). Therefore, like the Black Panther Party, we need to build a parallel government that ACTUALLY meaningfully delivers material difference for the poor - up to the middle class (people need to know that they aren't expected to be poor forever). Then a commitment from leadership personally to donate all money earned after hitting the average middle class wages to the Panther Party (Panther Party is for lack of a better term that has historical context for a parallel political government). The leadership would commit to a broader set of goals (M4A, anti war foreign policy, trade agreements that are worker centric, etc) that are not negotiable to the duopoly. Continue to use the resources of the PP to hire doctors, educators, lawyers, security and financial services for Party members and the poor. Also use the resources to buy housing/support business and the very last thing is to support electoral politics in so much as boots on the ground or fund raising from outside of the PP (Panther Party)for candidates who have our same stated goals with an explicit understanding that if they end up being traitors (by direct means or omission) we will use our resources to make their lives very uncomfortable (not violence but paid protestors, lawsuits, basically act like a hostile corporation). Anything short of that promotes the false hope that electoral politics can be changed to help the working class. Electoralism's last chance was Bernie Sanders and that failed, the inevitable climate wars are coming. Unless we start organizing now and use our time, $ and souls in pursuit of an organization that is going to support us when the System collapses we will find ourselves without the ability to survive to fight back. The system works, let's stop supporting it. Panther Party