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We're pushing part two of the Cedric Johnson interview to next week in favor of a timely discussion with Representative Ro Khanna about whether the debt ceiling bill represents a "win" for Democrats or a failure of elected progressives to fight. In this interview, which took place hours before last night's vote, Khanna answers whether the Democratic no votes were really performative, whether Biden's failure to raise the debt ceiling during last year's lame duck session disqualifies him from party leadership, and whether Khanna still stands by his decision to support Hakeem Jefferies as minority leader.

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Produced by Armand Aviram.

Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).

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Jonathan Kadmon

Did a fabulous job with the interview. Too bad none of the astute points you make ever seem to penetrate Ro's noggin. Have you noticed when he has no counterargument he just repeats a previous assertion like a mantra? That's supposed to be a sign one is defensive of a core belief they are unwilling to part with, the literature on cults and brainwashing describes it in great detail. But in Ro's case it's hard to tell if it's that or he just thinks that's how you do politics. His twitter feed is filled with vague platitudes restated over and over which seems to be standard practice in progressive political circles. Who knows, maybe it's a little of both. Frustrating but revealing. We're not strawmanning these people. When you ask them to explain themselves they're basically walking talking cliches. Those who will deign to talk to us even admit it without a hint of embarrassment or shame.

Anonymous

Ro is deaf to ANY voice that doesn't whisper to his inner sociopath, "Carefull, will this anger/please the DNC? We need them to crown us president someday." Ro is a fucking skunk. Everyone praises him for going on Indie media, when he's just killing time. It's just what he wants. He is NOT Progressive or Left, no matter what inconsistencies, weak criticisms or flat-out LIES he spews. He & his wife are making millions on War profiteering stocks and covering for Banksters. He cares NOTHING about the struggling Middle class, workers or the poor. He's a sociopath. In short... Ro is a DemocRAT.

Anonymous

"Voting our values" means that you do whatever the Corporations & Billionaires want. Period. That includes Bernie the Betrayer, Warren the Snake and AOC & the Fraud Squad. They are our ENEMIES. They deserve nothing - certainly not anyone's vote.

Merfy Mac

Kay fabe politics

Anonymous

Ro can say he supports everyone getting a million dollars for Christmas. It doesn't matter, since he won't fight for it or even vote to get it. Ro Khanna supports Ro Khanna becoming president. Period. That's the ONLY thing he cares about.

Anonymous

Ro is lying. Ask him why the Progressive Caucus is Progressive in name only, and it behaves as a Corporate Identity-politics Tool for Billionaires, Big Pharma and WAR. How are they Progressive, when they won't even fight for reproductive rights? Or be Anti Censorship or Anti-War?

Anonymous

I can’t stand these liberals

Anonymous

Ro Khanna is erectile dysfunction personified

Anonymous

well this is all very depressing 🤍

Anonymous

Huge respect to Ro Khanna for coming on this show and taking these questions. Great interview over all

Anonymous

He gets ZERO respect. He's doing it so he can BRAG that he's "open to criticism." It's infuriating because he doesn't even attempt to hear what Brie is saying! He just goes, "Well, ya know, we can't/won't/aren't blah, blah blah." OR "The President has a very progressive agenda, and we just need to push harder & get more Progressives elected. Bernie has SO much influence and is pushing Biden every day to the Left." What Ro Khanna SAYS & what reality is, are 2 completely different things. If Bernie or the "Progressive" (HAHAHAHAHA) Caucus have SO much influence on Braindead Biden's policies, why ois it that JOE MANCHIN and the Republicans are always smiling after striking deals with Biden's Caregivers? Ro Khanna is a FRAUD, LIAR and a WAR PIG. WHY do you respect him? Because he LIES right to Brie's face and... what? How is this at all helpful? Does this mean Brie or Indie News has some sort of influence on Ro? That they have some sort of beneficial access? He just lies and won't accept responsibility OR reaslity! I'm tired of giving Ro Khanna props for schmoozing on Indie podcasts. It's pointless. He's running for President ~ PERIOD.

Rentaro Matsukata

National politics is a counterproductive waste of time. We're trying to convince overworked disengaged people who don't care to vote for cynical narcissists who don't care and we're expecting change.

Anonymous

All RO has is talking points and the same ones every interview you have with him. He will not admit that Biden cannot meet the moment. He's the only rep that's open to being on podcast, but I think it would be better not have him on. This propagandist is BORING

Jesse

Bri I love your show but I’ve stopped listening to the Ro shows 3 cycles of bullshit ago. We get it. He sucks. Stop doing this to yourself. There is no GOTCHA.

Liz Spoerri

He argues first that Bernie influenced the framework and then that it was a Republican bill. Either way, compromising on the pipeline is a terrible loss.

Anonymous

Minting the coin, and the 14th amendment were NEVER going to happen. Pretending those were legitimate options is bullshit. This guy is bullshit. We all know why the this happened. It’s what most of them want. Biden wants that pipeline, Biden doesn’t want to cut defense spending. Biden wants a deal and doesn’t give a fuck about poor people and everyone knows this.

Anonymous

The only reason people are talking about voting for Williamson or JFK jr. is because they don’t have the guts to NOT vote. And Ro Khanna deserves to be rode out on a rail.

Anonymous

They are legitimate as options in reality. But they are not legitimate in terms of something this government would EVER actually do. It is childish to pretend otherwise.

Mark

If I hear “we re-elect him than pull him to the left” again, I will never stop screaming. And this idea that “change takes time” is a mindset from horse & buggy days. Information now moves at the speed of light. All this knuckle-dragging is on purpose.

Adam Newhard

I appreciate so much what Brie did here. It felt vindicating! Push 'em, push them for all of us.