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Secret Ending chapter 39

January 15th 2016, Conservatory of Sorcery, Poseidonis, Atlantis 1:00 PM EST Poseidonis was...nuts. Even moreso inside than through the bubble. The colors, the lights, it was dizzying. And everything was natural, coral buildings, bioluminscence, the occasional piece of magic hardware. My currently...

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Zerak

Kinda stupid to state his goal as it weakens his negotiating power, but on the flip side he can appraise the price (that the club would pay) for an item. Hostly he is better off asking for an item in exchange rather than cash. At least next time. At the current quality of the potion he made, he only needs to sell 10 to the guild to get 100 gold. Problem is I do not know if he would level up by then. If he wouldn’t he can negotiate that he wants to be paid in materials. So he gets 50% of any materials given. Which is honest generous as a deal. And he can craft his potions first, sell them to the club then make theirs. Again contingent on if he would hit level cap from crafting 10. Plus he could probably get more amazing skills from working with magical ingredients. Edit: IMPORTANT!! 1 gold = 100 silver = 10,000 copper. 100 gold = 10,000 silver = 1,000,000 copper. 1 copper = $1,000 1 silver = $100,000 1 gold = $10,000,000 100 gold = $1,000,000,000 (1 billion dollars). Asking for 100 million is the wrong amount. Unless he intends to multiply it by 10.

Malcolm Tent

The Atlantean Crown owns every shipwreck and resource in the ocean legally speaking. Their assets are in the tens of trillions or something. It's why he went to them. There isn't really a negotiating position. He needs a hundred million dollars. The contract is mainly a formality at this point and he needs it done before the raid for Kate. The direct approach was the smartest call there.

Zerak

What I mean is he needs 1 billion dollars. And I agree for them gold and mortal resources are worthless compared to magical ones. Well not worthless but not even close as valuable. Plus it would be weird if they couldn’t pay more than the club (10 gold per potion). Though I assume after Tin rank he would prefer trading for magical ingredients rather than money as money would lose its value to him. Or rather it no longer becomes a concern. And I imagine he would get more for trading valuable items and magical reagents to the club rather than money.

Malcolm Tent

He needs a hundred million. One hundred copper to a silver. One hundred silver to a gold. One thousand dollars to a copper. Or maybe not. Ugh math sucks. I'll fix it.

Zerak

One other thing I would like to point out, the scanning power isn’t always showing value (if sold to the club), when every one it showed for everything (even stuff without value had NA). Also early on you used Value, now you are using Price. I wanted to see what the value of the ingredient vs the final product is for magical ingredients. The club would be willing to pay him 100 million (10 gold) per Hi-Potion, I wonder how much Atlantis is willing to pay.

Malcolm Tent

He's actually at a disadvantage with Atlantis in terms of price. The thing is, hi-potions are more valuable than regular potions because they're iron grade, and they heal double the HP. But Atlantis can't quantify HP. So it's a nebulous difference of "magic healing instantly" to "slightly more magic healing instantly". Like having more healing is good, but the actual value is harder for them to account for without all the context. Also, the money for coins thing is kind of a beginner perk. It stops being feasible once you hit iron for the most part. The value doesn't scale right.

Zerak

Yah that’s fair. Part of why I said best to actually make future deals involving ingredients instead of price. What ever ingredients they give him he would use half (or what ever percentage you want) for them and the rest is his. It does become hard to quantify things properly. Plus after a certain level money just can’t buy things, it becomes a bartering thing, where you trade items, or items for favours/services/knowledge/lessons. Which I guess could be part of the deal here. He can negotiate lessons on their crafting (blacksmithing for example), and magic. I imagine the more crafting he knows, the better an item he can make, since he can boost/tailor the items that are base components, which would result in a higher quality final product, and likely a level of synergy.