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Declassified Dogfight Footage - F-14 Tomcat vs. Libyan MiG-23 (Patreon)

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2023-07-07 10:26:31
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William Moffett

Nice, I was starting to think I should just be giving my monthly donations to donutoperator lol

Chuck Z

This came during a time when the general knowledge of American rules of engagement were not as widely known as they are now. Air rules of engagement are very different from ground and sea as adversarial intentions can be more ambiguous in the air. This particular situation demonstrated that the Libyan intention was to get dangerously close, probably just to gauge the US reaction to aggression. It is interesting that dating back to the first World War, pilots are still expected to treat a downed aircraft/pilot as a noncombatant until otherwise demonstrated. Toward the end of the interaction, the F-14 RIO's (Radar Instrument Officer), AKA the guys in the back who don't fly the plane, were spotting parachutes from the downed (splashed) MiG-23's, and indicating that they were "good" or not. I'm not sure, but if the interaction occurred close enough to the aircraft carrier, they would be responsible, as per international law, for rescuing the same pilots and crew that attempted to shoot down the F-14's. I wonder how that first conversation went?

Chuck Z
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I'm aware of that, I just think it's interesting that the aggressive action leading to missile shots ends with reporting the well being of the very aggressors in the interaction. This is something we still do, and it still gets us into hot water in the media. It makes me want to look up this interaction specifically and find out who conducted the SAR for the 23 crews. For background, I've been in the US military for 18 years, and a part of the air community for most of that.