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Hello folks!No this isn't a roundabout way of saying I'm going to be canceling or cutting back on Payloads; they will continue as normal. I'm just looking to discuss them a bit, and how people are feeling about them.

It's been over a year since I started doing payloads, and now, 56 weekly payloads in, I'm reflecting on them.

First, my own thoughts: I like doing the Payloads, as they give me a reason to get work in every day and not fall too far behind or get overly rusty. Consistent work helps me stay on target as an artist and not fall into too much apathy.The Payloads were originally conceptualized as just doodles, quick and crude, more to convey ideas and characters than to be too technically detailed. Over time, and especially as these are paid for with real money, I became more and more self conscious about them. I've been spending increasing time on each payload, working in occasional full-color images, multi panel comics, larger group shots, and even animations. They're drifting away from the loose, sketchy quality I initially envisioned and taking more time out of each week to create.

Very often, when I deliver a Payload, I worry if it's enough. I have never said how many images to expect in a Payload or what the minimum is. Yet I worry that I'll drop off the week's work and leave people thinking "wow, that's it?", that this was a meager Payload, that the images were too rough and sketchy, that the quality was not up to par. Even though no one has ever made this complaint! Not once has anyone said "this was a letdown" or "only [x] images this week?" and still I find myself worrying it's not enough and throwing a last minute spare image or two onto the pile.

I suppose I'm saying all this to express my own self-doubt, which as far as I can tell, has been largely unfounded. You have all been extremely patient, gracious, and supportive for this year, and I'm beyond grateful to have such a kind and understanding audience.

Mostly, I want to know how people feel about them, both the polls and the payloads themselves. What do you like? What needs changing? What sort of polls are fun to participate in? What sort of results have been the most satisfying? Which would you love to see again, see more of, see less of? What gets you excited for the payoff after the poll? I'm open to all discussion around this, so that I can bring the people what they want.

Let me know your thoughts, if you like, and I'll try to shape all this going forward.

Comments

PastebunAnon

Personally I think the amount of art every week is more than enough. I think a good idea for polls would be for ideas you've wanted to try but haven't gotten around to doing, outfits, etc.

captain fantasy

I also wouldn’t worry about making the drawings that complicated it’s all good u can doodle more if u like or not if you like

Ariamaki

I like the results of the Payloads a lot! I personally do not participate in the polls, instead letting each one come as a surprise when the time arrives. I do always hope to see more of your established characters, they have so much personality, and you also do excellent fanwork... Really, it's just never a miss around here. :)

Volpij

Got no problem with the amount of pics

The Lonely Sand Person

Honestly I often find myself going, "This is supposed to be just a sketchy thing? There's like 7 pics and one of them is a 9-panel comic??" So if anything I feel you're overdelivering, lol. It's great if the prompts help you focus and maybe give you some inspiration -- that whole "limitations inspire creativity" thing, I guess? -- and I certainly don't want to dampen your enthusiasm. But if you find yourself going off on a whole-ass comic or a big multi-character splash page, you might consider breaking that out as its own post rather than piling it in with the payload doodles. Then you get to congratulate yourself for doing a "real" art post in addition to the payload! Just a thought. I am not an artist.

Stephen C suggests The Thing on the Fourble Board

I've got no complaints, but it sounds like you might feel better splitting off a new tier or parallel project for longer/bigger pics? Like, keep the payloads loose and sketchy, and have a multipanel comic or detailed pic every other week or once a month.

LookImNotAFurryOkay

The payloads are nice, I particularly liked the last one! And I don't feel like I'm "owed" one every week, it's a pleasant surprise when you do ship them. I wouldn't be disappointed if one was skipped occasionally (maybe some were ? I'm not keeping track, tho I do read'em all), or if it just had a few rough sketches. I don't participate in the polls mostly because I'm not sure how and I don't want the hassle of clicking through whatever the thingamajig is to get them. As for the content: one preference: I do prefer when there's story and humor rather than just smut, but eh, tastes vary and full-fledged comic are much more work! But basically I read it for the articles, not the tits. Oh and for the dumb jokes, the dumb jokes are great.

Himitsu

The payloads and polls are great, and I have never honestly looked at one and gone "Damn, that's all?" The polls happen so frequently that I feel like I get a pretty good amount of influence over future art drops in exchange for my monthly donation. I also like that they cover a wide range of topics and themes, as a more consistent and straightforward approach might lead to certain options being consistent chosen by the majority, and would make voting feel pointless. I've had to leave other artists' Patreons because the polls stopped mattering, as the audience had decided what characters they liked already, and going against the grain never seemed to work. That has never really felt like the case with your Patreon. I really appreciate the variety in your polls, both in the themes and the outcomes. More specific feedback: - I like the polls where you take audience suggestions, but I also think it's smart not to have those too frequently. The rate you've been doing them has felt satisfying. - Grab Bag polls where the options range from settings to characters to kinks are fun, and offer a lot of freedom of choice. They're a fun mix-up whenever you don't have a clear theme in mind for the poll. - I don't remember if you've actually done this before, but I think a fun poll idea would be to have a variety of option types, such as a few IPs, character archetypes (MILFs, strong ladies, nerds, etc.), kinks, etc. and have the audience vote for all of them at once, and combine the top option of all categories into the pieces you do for that payload (and if there's not enough content there, you could take the 2nd highest option of all categories for a few extra pics). - I don't care for two option polls as much, but I think they work better when the choices are strong contrasts, like the big tiddy versus small tiddy poll. Minecraft versus Terraria and Casual versus Professional Nudity weren't as strong in that regard imo. - Only mentioning it because it's recent, but the latest poll feels a lot like the Halloween one that came right before, and I think it's because in both cases we've just been given the theme and a list of generic setting elements to pick from. Neither are bad individually, but back to back it does feel kind of dull. Monsters on Halloween, Fighting Monsters for Fantasy Adventure, y'know?

Raan

I like the payloads, it's nice with a bundle of variations on a theme but do you archive them somewhere afterwards? I can't seem to find the newer payloads at w.secret.graphics (maybe I'm using it wrong) Also , many times when a new payload comes out, I wanna share it with people, but naturally I don't want to share patreon only content just willy nilly, is there like a timeframe for when you would consider it okay to share images publicly? Should I just wait with sharing them with others until you post them publicly on twitter/blusky? (that's what I have been doing so far)

bold and brash

I've loved your work for over a decade now, I'm happy to see the stuff you make be it a cute doodle of some long-necked dork or the cover art of a new chapter of something or other. If I had to ask for any change to the Patreon, I'd just make your commissions open here first whenever they come up again.

Methorphan

You wouldn't value a private doodle drawn by Bill Watterson because it was polished, but because it was a private doodle drawn by Bill Watterson.