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Continuing our election-year series of episodes looking at movies about Presidents, Daniel and I chat about 1996's biggest movie, alien-invasion effects-spectacular Independence Day, a sprawling SF comedy about incalculable mass murder and the genocide of humanity. Bill Pullman looks decent, Will Smith quips, Jeff Goldblum recycles, Randy Quaid gets an anal probe, billions die, and a good time is had by all.

Features UK election chat, and US SCOTUS / Presidential debate banter.

Don't worry, the dog survives.

For now.

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Ctolm [the t is silent]

When the British pilots are talking about the Americans saving the day the other pilots in the background are Iraqi and Israeli. Frankly less believable than taking down an alien ship with a Mac.