Home
Creators
Search Recent Random
Posts
Search DMs Popular Hash Lookup Tags Random
Importer
Import FAQ
Register Favorites Keys Review DMs Logout
Community
Telegram ThePornDude
Home Creators Posts Import Register Favorites Logout

Supplementary Materials 8: Lab Leak Discourse, Toxic YouTube Dynamics, and the Ontology of Peppa Pig (Patreon)

Published:
2024-06-07 18:58:49
Edited:
2024-06-07 19:28:33
Imported:
2026-06
Tags:

Downloads

Content

We stare into the abyss and welcome darkness into our souls as we discuss:

Feedback on the Žižek episode

Middle Aged Men's Health Update

Alina Chan and the newest round of Lab Leak Discourse

Discourse Surfing Pundits

Alex O'Connor cornering Jordan Peterson on the resurrection

The philosophical and Marxist implications of Peppa Pig

Potential Alternatives to Hipster Christianity and New Atheism

Andrew Gold's Heretics Channel and Toxic YouTube Dynamics

Editorializing and Responsible Criticism

Balaji Srinivasan's Waffling Defence of Huberman

The 'Elite Defector' Pose

Verbal Fluency

Heterodox and Anti-Vaxx Incentive Structures

James Lindsay's most recent idiocy

Links 

Alina Chan's NYT Article on the Lab Leak

Our episode addressing Alina and Matt Ridley's points with relevant experts

Jordan Peterson's Podcast: Navigating Belief, Skepticism, and the Afterlife | Alex O'Connor @CosmicSkeptic | EP 451

Andrew Gold - Heretics: EXPOSED: I Didn't Show THIS in Viral 'Woke' Debate with Eni Aluko (4K)

Balaji's huge Twitter thread defending Huberman

Summary of Huberman's Math Meme

Top Earning Substacks 

Files

Comments

Ymirsdreams

Pepper Pig is a perfect porcine Picasso pastiche.

Michal Lichota

Regarding the JBP revelation about Jesus, I’d really like to hear what he has to say about Mohammad being the fulfillment of the prophet and the laws.

aneladgam_varelse

Omg setup for Jordan is wonderful, I admire his strategic genius

Bad School Counselor

Fwiw, it is Paul, in 1 Corinthians 15:14-19 that has the reference Alex is quoting.

Adam Sher

18 pull ups in a row AND bouldering? You should do the episodes shirtless.

Roscoe 112

+1 broicity on the gureoflexometer for 3 km jog and 18 pullups. Keep on punchin!

john statham

You’ve mentioned Andrew Gold. Five Grand says that I can prompt him into a right of reply within 40 minutes. That geezer would go to the opening of a drawer if it got him a click.

Devin Poore

15 km commute each way on the bike Chris?! That's impressive. I used to have a bike commute about that long that I did for a few years. That's a serious workout.

john statham

‘It’s a great, big, awful hamster wheel.’ Classic #Mattrix. BF Skinner sits by the fire and eludes: ‘I told you that I’d get you.’

Sam D.

Glad you brought Andrew Gold under your lens. I got referred to his work by a more reasonable podcaster, at the time he was interviewing a lot of former of scientologists, and I watched some (pretty standard stuff). Just then, the info about the accusations about Russell Brand broke in the British media. Within a few hours, Gold released an episode claiming defense of Brand ("he seemed like a good guy to me, therefore the accusations can't be true" type of defense). And within a day after that he took it down and issued a retraction. Apparently he hadn't even really read what had been published? What a jerk, I thought, just looking for clicks! Never listened to him again.

Jeanne H-B

These gurus and their wannabes and acolytes are such a bunch of arrogant boys. They are all boring in the same way.

Emma

Actually I hate to say it but I might be on JPs side on this one. Alex is correct that the central tenant of Paul's Christianity was that you have to believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus. BUT this is completely different from the teachings of Jesus himself. Jesus was all about actions (looking after the poor and such) and he specifically didn't really care what you believe. Such as when he said Matthew 7:22-23: Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ On the other hand the good Samaritan was considered one of the goodies in spite of having completely the wrong theology (according to the jews).

brianshmrian

It occurred to me that I usually only comment when I have a question or criticism, but I just wanted to say that I've been really enjoying the show for over three years now. Can't wait for the Keanu interview!

Kyle Dun

As an atheist I don't really care what JBP thought of the resurrection either. But it is significant Alex got him to that answer because it reveals a bias in his approach to religion, Christianity in particular, that I think even he has convinced himself doesn't exist, hiding it behind the mystery. There are only three options availble to him now as far as I can tell. 1) yes, Jesus rose from the dead and if we could be present we would all be witness to that event, 2) Jesus came out of the tomb, therefore must not have really died but was near death when taken from the Cross and subsequently succumbed to his injuries later, or 3) there was some illusion taking place to convince people that it occurred. Options 2 & 3 refute the divinity of Christ and he couldn't bring himself to do that. So, the answer is yes, he literally believes a Jesus rose from the dead.

Alex H

The Andrew Gold section was fascinating and darkly funny. Seems to have followed a similar trajectory as JBP, Liz Truss and Russell Brand.

Lillie

You guys are hilarious, the last two minutes of this episode are gold😂

Violet

You guys are such a lovely refreshing bittersweet tonic. I enjoy a dose everyday in order to build my skeptical muscles. Stay gold pony boys.

Desma

O god! This Andrew guy is so vomitously awful! I love your casts and usually I find it really entertaining… because a lot of the content like this you cover is kind of funny as well as seriously cringe, but this guy really made me feel a bit ill, its really amazing to hear someone with his head so far up his own arse who just can’t hear himself… eew the condescension… blech!!

Linda Sears

I was really getting into your Peppa Pig analysis. It warmed my humanities heart. As for the resurrection, perhaps Jesus went into a coma like JBP did? Thanks, as always, for keeping the world a little more sane!

Ymirsdreams

We have the secret to the decoding power: You have to keep doing it, no matter how hard it gets. It took Matt and Chris a full 3 years to get this strong. 18 PULL UPS, BOULDERING, AND A 3km RUN EVERY SINGLE DAY!!!" For breakfast, only drink nootropic, and beat the mic with your fists for mental resistance!

Zelda Hershy

I think Jordan Petersons sponsors give the game away. It all makes a little more sense when you factor in an advertisement for Preborn in the middle of Alex o Conor's episode- "we interprupt this super serious philosophical discussion about whether JP believes in the literal truth of Jesus as your lord and savior to bring a word from our sponser - a company that uses ultrasounds to combat the unborn baby holocaust... Now back to our super serious inquiry into whay JP REALLY believes..." It's not about what JP really believes or is willing to commit to or not commit to philosophically- he's a grifter, the name of the game is getting and keeping his right wing audience engaged through pseudo philosophical political and culture war pundritry. I think JP got way too much credit for once upon a time being a well respected Jungian psych prof with an antiestablishment hobby horse, but he's never had anything of much interest to contribute to "sense making" or good faith philosophical conversations

Roland Weber

Thanks, that was another entertaining episode! I'm so glad that I don't listen to most of the people you cover. @Matt, if your knees hurt from jogging, please take good care. Analyse how you jog, maybe have a video analysis done by somebody with a professional eye for that. My knees used to hurt after long walks, until I realised that I landed on a straight leg with every step. When I keep my centre of mass lower, so that the knees remain bent on impact, it's the muscles rather than the joints that absorb the shock. 🦿 And for the records, I do not like Keanu Reeves. At best, I find him OK in some of his roles. But never mind, bring him on for the enjoyment of the other patreons! Make sure to ask him about the Mattrix. ⊹

jodcr

I like that Andrew Gold “exposed” his own content. Like, “this thing that I facilitated, filmed, and then edited didn’t present the REAL story. Tune in to find out the truth!”

Tim Tripp

I think most cults have a charismatic leader. If wokism is a cult who is the charismatic leader?

Emma

I think perhaps we're coming to a sort of cultural division here because I suspect maybe the US takes Christianity a bit more literally than other more secular countries. In Australia I know a lot of people who consider themselves Christians without believing the bible is particularly accurate or that Jesus was a supernatural being. They have just a very general agreement with some of the moral teachings of the bible and maybe a vague belief in God. Or some just like the link to their family cultural background. I'm sure Alex would consider those people to also not be proper Christians. But I think if more people understand the murky origin story of Christianity then it makes no sense that one group gets to define what Christianity is.

Robert Andrews

Started typing "why is the queen the only" and Google immediately filled in the rest, "...human in peppa pig" Reddit suggests..."I think it is a subtle nod to Animal Farm. The revolution could only go so far." This is interesting, but something else came up... "The Queen, Santa and the princesses from peppa’s fairytale books are human. This suggests that humans are a rarer species but considered powerful and authoritative, often occupying high ranking positions by the virtue of their humanity."

Daniel Reed Miller

Yes PLEAASE cover/decode Balaji Srinivasan!!! He is really beyond the pale yet all these useful idiots are platforming him. I heard extended clips on a recent episode of Einah’s with the guy from the (quite excellent) Tech Won’t Save Us podcast, of Balaji giving just the most unhinged and purely techno-fascist vision of San Franscisco (and by extension, everywhere.) I’m sure you’ve heard some of it. It would be laughable if these guys weren’t gazillionaires who are literally investing in this vision as we speak. The floating libertarian paradise idea didn’t work out, nor the start a town in the middle of farmland idea, but they are literally starting their buy up San Franscisco block by block plan, and bought a new district attorney to crack heads on the homeless, etc. Can’t wait for their “greys pride” brownshirt parade, yikes.

Aaron Holder

Love the mid life conversion to aerobic exercise, boys. I remember when I started jogging. A country boy on an island, I expected to be charmed by bucolic scenery and the smell of hay. Country roads in Australia smell of diesel smoke and rotten kangaroos. The view is okay, though.

collapsing

Great comment left under Russell Brand TikTok today - ‘it’s like that time in peepshow where Jeremy joined a cult’ 😂…same level of seriousness. Also I know he’s not political ( see Lex, Rogan, Huberman et al ) but seems to have been staying with Donald Trump Jr.. who’d a thunk it 🤔

Tobbe lobben

Wow Andrew gold will go home so well in USA. So much bullshit with a posh dialect. Also what a creepy guy and so full of himself

Chandra Collins

Haha, the middle aged health report. Also, someone must write their thesis about Peppa Pig now! 💙😂🐽

David Noble

"NYT meant to be the best" - I'm afraid mainstream US media is quite terrible.

emmajane

Urgh Andrew Gold! I’ve only ever heard his adverts on other podcasts, for Shopify. I turn the volume down, he always sounded sleezy, now I know why. Also Keanu > Johnny Depp

Eddy

I highly recommend checking out TWiV episode 1121 for a nerdy and devastating critique of Alina Chan’s conspiracy theories.

Jen

I am just a grumpy American woman but I have worked with a few folks with South African and British accents. Andrew Gold is absolutely using his accent to his advantage. It is sooooooooo creepy to me. He is all thirst and no substance.