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A special Supplementary Material where we take a gander at some of the reactions to the recent assassination attempt on Trump and then dig deeper with some responsible model conspiracy hypothesizing with Bret and Heather. Also featuring:

Our completely predictable response to the shooting

John Cusack's Conspiracy Theory

Tim Kennedy's Conspiracy Venn Diagram

Scientific Cosplay with Bret and Heather

Exploring Heather's logical toolbox

The Lab Leak theory revisited with Bret

The Fall of Plato's Cave

Mind Controlled Shooters

The Unity 2024 PlatformLinks 

Cave of Mirrors: The 234th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

Tim Kennedy: How Leadership Failures Led to an Assassination Attempt on Trump

John Cusack's conspiracy tweet

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Brendan H.

Congrats on the 10. I really enjoy the DTGs version of pushing Supplements. 😃

Colin Fardey

There was so much more to make fun of in that clip of Bret "Adressing the Nation ". At one point there was a perfect cut away shot to Mt Rushmore as he monolouged . Cringe Comedy Gold .

RareTripleBait

The famous movie with mind control to create a lone killer to assassinate a world leader is obviously Zoolander Get your facts right 🙄

Will

Tim Kennedy was not on my DtG bingo card but I do know Chris watches MMA here and there. can't wait to listen!

Ymirsdreams

I've unironically been really down on myself lately for how dumb I am and how little I of originality I have to add, intellectually. I find the Guru-sphere a constant source of comfort in this respect.

Sam D.

Don't be so quick to assume DJT will win. I think finally Biden is close to dropping out- maybe before the end of the weekend- there is just SO much distress on the part of Democrats here. And then I think we will have a new ballgame. Maybe there will be some chaos but I think it will be really energizing (and mobilizing) rather than the despair we have now.

Adam Sher

Hadn't heard from Bret in a while and the distance did not make my heart grow fonder.

Linda Sears

I’m so glad that Matt clarified what Plato was actually presenting in his cave allegory. It irritates me how it gets used the way Brett and Heather do. As for the shooter, the most likely scenario is that he was lonely, bullied, obsessed with guns, and wanted to show the world that he mattered by taking on an important person. The real conspiracy is that Americans live in a country where a politician poses for a Christmas card with the same type of gun the shooter, and many mass shooters, have used: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-congressman-posts-family-christmas-picture-with-guns-days-after-school-2021-12-05/

QueensAce

Project 2025 is a real threat to The Republic. It’s nothing more than a Government Over Reach. Still, You don’t need to make This Clown into a Martyr.

Monica B.

This was a good episode all around, but that last Brett clip was comedy gold. He’s just…he’s such an embarrassingly pompous dork, which along with his being a blowhard, kind of serves as a cover for those pretty hardcore right wing tendencies, but I so appreciated being able to laugh listening to you guys share that clip in particular!

Kristen

That, as always, was an episode worthy of a moink. Thank you!

Tim Tripp

White is black. Up is down. Welcome to Brett’s world.

Robert Andrews

Bret, in this episode, is exactly the Bret that I first found so off-putting (before all the anti-vaccine and ivermectin nonsense). I found him so unbelievably pretentious the way he began talking about issues where he brought in all of these pre-ambular paragraphs that are supposed to take us on a scientific journey only to conclude, "I'm basically a bog-standard conservative really, and there's some stuff the kids are into which I just don't like", like some verbal Rube-Goldberg machine that does the equivalent of all kinds of over-elaborate steps using marbles, dominoes, clocks etc... only to switch on a light.

pr

Speaking of mind control, Derren Brown tried to replicate a Manchurian Candidate situation in an episode of his show. Could be interesting to decode that?

Kyle Dun

Great ep lads. That last Brett clip. He really thinks he is someone.

Lillie

Love my fortified supplements, thanks for the episode ❤️

Sarah S

I don’t really get how the assassination attempt would get him more votes. And it is a long time until November.

John Smith

FYI, I think that the usage of Platos Cave comes from Heidegger, who's entire book "The Essence of Truth" was an elaborate analysis of the platonic dialogue where it is featured. In turn this thinking passed down to his student Leo Strauss, who has become tremendously influential on the right. I've read the Essence of Truth myself, and studied Leo Strauss (specifically his analysis of Maimonodes). It makes me cringe to hear these guys talk about it because they're clearly semi educated about the subject and have never read any of what I cited above. It's just a meme to them, they read or saw some conservative say it second hand as a meme and so they regurgitate it with little understanding. Anyway it just became a way to signal you were a certain type of reactionary - the roman statue type who talks in pretentious language.

John Smith

Also BTW I always considered the theory of firms to just sort of be a way to reason about abstraction? In thinking it kind of gives a strange tangability to them. But, ultimately that's just a thought right. I do not hold to there being a literal realm of forms out there where abstractions were made manifest and real personally, ultimately all that is just a thought. And ultimately it's just a way of studying abstraction. I think basically everyone who came after Plato threw the theory of forms straight in the garbage honestly, starting with Aristotle. Plato even criticizes the the theory himself in some dialogues. But it's still interesting because it was seemingly the first (reordered) attempt to do a generalized examination of abstraction, and so much of what has come since is a reaction to it, even if it's not agreed with very much.

elcid

“Platos Cave is so hot right now. If anyone brings it up it should be a red flag.” Next VBW episode…..😂 They obviously read the dialogues though.

CHUSSTERR

Need more platos CAVE