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This is a little bit petty and I (Chris) apologise for that in advance but what is the point of having a Patreon if you can't occasionally post something that is a little indulgent.

These are some tweets from an FYI thread I got tagged into on Twitter. The person responsible has 4 followers so I'm not going to put them on blast. I am however going to complain a bit here...I don't have any issue with receiving critical feedback about the show. The vast majority of feedback we receive is positive but still it's fine to have criticisms and people inevitably have different preferences and perspectives. For some the extended banter segments are an annoying distraction, for others they are part of the podcast's charm. Matt and I don't completely ignore feedback, there is often valid points being made, but we also want to still enjoy making the podcast so that means things like banter and sarcasm are non-negotiable because without that we wouldn't be acting like ourselves.

So when I receive feedback like the above I can't help thinking about how myopic the person's perspective is. If you say 'For me...' then fine but when you declare things like 'the Sam Harris episode fell flat' (it really didn't it was one of our most popular episodes, received praise from various people we respect who know Sam personally, and even briefly had Sam following our accounts) or sarcasm is never funny as if they are indisputable facts, you just come across as someone who doesn't have a sense of perspective.

I'm critical of a lot of the content I consume but I'm always clear that my criticisms are just my opinions but I frequently encounter people online who seem to lack that level of self awareness. If I was being cruel, I would say they appear to lack appropriate theory of mind abilities to entertain that their opinions ≠ objective facts, but I don't think that is true. In most cases the people are perfectly capable of entertaining alternative views, it's just that they don't bother too. This is why I have no issue calling it myopic...

Sarcasm, cynicism, and banter are non-negotiable components of the podcast (and my personality) so if you don't like those... might be best to find another podcast that is more suited to your tastes. That this person finds my 'sledgehammer' wit to require effort to parse is perhaps most telling but in any case... yep, this is just a rant. Sorry y'all! 

Sometimes you just gotta grumble!

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Cesare

Man please don't lose the banter. It's one of the best parts.

Maarten Wesselius

Agreed, the sarcasm and banter are part of the reason I'm a patreon. By the way, you didn't properly black out the Twitter name / handle in all the screenshots, it can still be read quite easily. Perhaps there's still time to correct that!

Mihai Nițu

I would absolutely love there to be no sarcasm on the show. Humor is a petty thing that plebs indulge in. Serious intellectuals like Sam Harris don't waste brain cycles on humor. Instead, they waste brain cycles on shallow takes on religion, wokeness, and self-actualization.

Patrick Dunlop

I dig the banter and dry humour on your show (maybe coz I'm an Aussie!) but I have found banter can be distracting on other podcasts where I just want the content. I also think that sometimes the banter in a podcast series can act as a 'barrier to entry' for new listeners who might be wondering what all the in-jokes are about. Matt Smith might know what I'm talking about here. But there is an easy solution: you could add time stamps to the show notes so people who don't like it know where to jump to. As for jokes -you should make the show as funny or as serious as you want! It's your show damnit!

Chris Spanos

An Irishman grumbling? I'm shocked!

Andrew Mac

I am all for people challenging themselves in what they consume but why somebody would listen to something and that was on balance not for them seems strange. The banter, sarcasm and cynicism are great.

Yuki

I think taking things too seriously could be pernicious —— never forget that some bad gurus always want people to take themselves in an extreme serious way that almost laughable. Chris and Matt has done a great job of using sarcasm and banters to reveal those gurus’ presentation styles. Also, those banters could serve as a reminder that our hosts are also human with their own interesting personalities and backgrounds, which make the show more enjoyable and relatable! To conclude: keep being yourself!

Duncan

"If I *were* being cruel". Save the subjunctive!

Carolyn Reeves

Jesus Mary & Joseph 🤦🏻‍♀️ I think that those of us who have no clout (four followers) sometimes assume an air of undue authority (presenting boring personal opinions as hot take indisputable facts) within the relative anonymity of online communication forums the same way someone might buy a flashy sports car to compensate for personal shortcomings. Personally, I’m here for the sarcasm, banter, and cynicism as much as anything else; and I (with the full expression of my undue authority) commend you on your strong statement of unwavering commitment to these fine qualities of your excellent show.

Dayan Weller

Man, not that I disagree but it's a pretty Harris move to get so bothered by some guys who don't like you online. Why give em the energy when they won't even see it? :)

William LEGRAIN

“Each of us finds his unique vehicle for sharing with others his bit of wisdom.” - Ram Dass

Samantha Rae

If we didn’t have your signature wit & sarcasm I’m afraid some of the episodes would be too dreary to listen to just by virtue of the nature of some of the gurus e.g. Scott adams 🥱 ignore them, we love u guys ❤️

Jesse Hodges

Please never stop. Proper delivery of sarcasm and cynicism in good humor is very difficult indeed. Chris is obviously a master and Matt flies under the radar a bit but occasionally demonstrates he's no slouch, either. I always thought it would be funny to add an "/s" to the end of the podcast title.

Ian Steinberg

Shallow irony, cynicism, and sarcasm are disingenuous ways of seeming smarter than one actually is, it's a knowing wink or postmodern juxtaposition that tries to masquerade as depth but doesn't stand up to any inquiry. That stuff is annoying for sure. Matt and Chris don't do that at all! They make jokes that are backed up with clever insight. Humour is a rich way to deliver new ways of thinking about something and it makes the pod more enjoyable to listen to. Keep it up!

KMD

I love your podcast because you laugh, and make me laugh. So many of your subjects do not deserve to be taken seriously… and you reveal that in your approach! How many “gurus” have a TRUE sense of humor? Wait, is that on the gurometer?

Rob Franks

I’m here for the sarcasm and banter. But who knows, most Patrons are bias. To me this feels like a Sam fan that can’t admit his flaws

Paul Bowman

Jesus. Better tell Mr No Craic never to come to Ireland. They'd never make it through the first day.