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We discuss vaccine conspiracies, online radicalisation, QANon, and Northern Ireland's own satanic panic with the creator of the new podcast series 'Vaccine: The Human Story' and co-host of QAnon Anonymous. 

A lot of good insight coming from Annie though Matt and I are running on late night brains...

Anyway, enjoy the UNEDITED video!

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Annie Kelly Interview *UNEDITED*

We discuss vaccine conspiracies, online radicalisation, QANon, and Northern Ireland's own satanic panic.

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Tom Allison

Is it time-consuming to also offer just the audio? Or is there some easy way from me to download it that I am unaware of? Video just eats bandwidth on a long walk... (or is this some sort of SEO/SEM play?)

Tom Allison

Whoops - answering my own question: the final versions posted on the Website are audio-only, right? Guess I just have to be patient for the long-walk versions ;).

Louise

Really looking forward to listening to this interview this evening, if anyone has not already checked out Annie Kelly's podcast series then I highly recommend it.

Emma

Great interview! It was interesting to think about if the way we present vaccines as super high tech might actually make them less appealing to certain people by making them seem harder to understand and thus trying to force them to trust in elites, who they are already suspicious of. I have several family members who are anti covid vax (which is weird to me because they never had any issues with vaccines in the past) and a lot of their anti vax arguments revolve around fears of a new technology. I was trying to explain how mRNA vaccines are actually less scary than older vaccines because your not putting any of the actual virus in your body. But I got no where :-( Maybe the vaccine human story podcast might give me some new material. Am definitely going to subscribe to it!

Kyle D

The beginning of the pod really bugs me where Chris cites the example of Rogan only questioning Don Jr’s drug use, when his friends are mocking both him and Hunter Biden, as evidence of his being a flat out “right winger”. This is an odd example to use in order to make his point because there has never been any documented evidence of Jr’s having abused drugs whereas Biden has a well established and public history of drug addiction so it is a reasonable point to make and perhaps more revealing of Chris’ own leftist bias that he would view that neutral fact check as political hackery.